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Zwerg01

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Cool! Thanks for the information
I had a look on the init-hwtest-script and for me, it seems to probe the hardware, and not to test. The output should be "probing gyro... found" and not "testing gyro ... passed". To the screw discussion. A real retro device needs slot drive screws.
 

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I'll hold out on buying a flagship phone until the Pyra phone is out, I'd rather give my money to you guys rather than Samsung, Apple, Google, or whoever. I might need a new phone before them, mine is dying a slow death, but I'll get a cheap one to tide me over. It will be replacing a Samsung S5 so it doesn't need to be fast or fancy. . .
 

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Awesome. Thanks for the update ED. All of that looks amazing, I never expected the touch screen to actually be that responsive to touch. The Pyraphone is a mind blower, will be ordering that when it is available.
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I'll hold out on buying a flagship phone until the Pyra phone is out, I'd rather give my money to you guys rather than Samsung, Apple, Google, or whoever. I might need a new phone before them, mine is dying a slow death, but I'll get a cheap one to tide me over. It will be replacing a Samsung S5 so it doesn't need to be fast or fancy. . .
Oh, also, what he said. Currently I have an Axon M thinking that I could actually, somehow, stand Android because of the dual screens. It just isn't working. I cannot stand a single thing about Android or any of the apps in the Google app store.

Just give me a linux based phone. I can live without a call being able to interrupt my media player or any of the other more phone oriented features. At this point, I can either live without that or script around it.

Bring it on, can't wait for this!
 

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Talking in videos and showing examples gives me much more hope than walls of text. I understand a video that long is a lot to shoot/edit but even a minute or two a week/month would be nice.

Glad to see progress is being made


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Thanks for the update. I'm very curious about what will be the sustained performance of Pyra, at least for a couple of hours running things like: PPSSPP, dreamcast, dosbox, mame, ... I guess other use cases from my side will just use CPU at full for short periods.

But for those mentioned and others I can't remember right now I would like to see huge improvement compared to Pandora, I would feel deeply disappointed if there isn't.

I guess I'm worried since ED comment about temperature. Let's see what are the comments from developers and first users.
I can run up to dreamcast on my pandora. The Pyra should work even better for the hard to emulate N64.
The only reasons i have stick around this long (since before preorder)

- All in one system (controls, video out, everything)
- 10+ hour battery life
- Extremely portable
- Potentially expandable
- Video out
- LTE modem

In the last year or so I have gotten more and more disenfranchised with the constant delays and the lack of backbone when dealing with paid subcontractors (one delaying things almost a year). I have questioned if I should continue to wait another few years (with a preorder and another top up tied up with no interest).

Put simply though my cheap chromebook does a lot but it isn't small and doesn't have a built in control. It also does not have an lte modem or easily replaceable hd/ssd.

The Pyra will deliver...if it ever comes out. Just a question of how much longer I can wait at this point.

Edit: To further illustrate the point: I have moved, bought a house, dated, got married, had a child, changed jobs, and I'm moving again...and no Pyra...

So 5-7 years tm?
 
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senorgomez

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Awesome video. I would second an example load with OS running off of emmc, unless there is a vid of that already which someone can link.

As for video vs text, I think text updates with pictures would probably be best. I say that b/c you do video production IRL and your professional tendency would get in way of just getting videos out there b/c of quality standards. So I think video would be too much work/stress. If you do video, I recommend making a test stand / cam setup so there are no focus problems and videos are easier to produce.

That is why text with nice high rez pictures would be nice for news updates and videos for milestones like completed case revision.
 

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Why pyra in the video is booted from slow SDcard, in place of emmc ? That is probable reason for delay in starting of GIMP. Have we ever tested booting from emmc ?
 

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Becuase installation to emmc is meant to be part of the intitial test script, which isn't quite ready for prime time yet. In my experience, GIMP is perhaps the slowest thing to start (although it does at least tell you what it's doing while it's starting) on my machines, so I wouldn't expect it to be that much faster booting from emmc if I'm honest; a lot of the start time in my experience comes from unpacking and setting things up, which are more liable to be cpu bound.
 

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I have used GIMP on same laptop while booting from original HDD and later from SSD. If I am not forgetting it used to start slow with HDD but after upgrading to SSD it starts in 2-3 seconds.
 

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To further illustrate the point: I have moved, bought a house, dated, got married, had a child, changed jobs, and I'm moving again...and no Pyra...
The other side of that is not a songle vendor has come even close to bringing anything close to the tightly focused design of Pyra during the same timeframe.

Either they are windows machines, touch screen phones or some type of sbc with weird set of features that somehow never come close to what I need.

Out of the tens of thousands of manufacturers and crowdsourced projects, it takes a single dude in Germany to actually pull it off.

I would have thought that by now we would see all kinds of designers and manufacturers turning these kinds of devices out in small and medium quantities.

Maybe ED is on to something here bigger than it looks. The Pyraphone was a sweet surprise. Could there be enough demand to make this an electronic cottage industry?
 

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I've always been a fan of the square drive personally, though, torx seems to work well for small screws.
 

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Vim is very easy to use after you know the basics.
I use it all the time at work and even on my android its the best editor i found so far (if you remap a few keys in your .vimrc)
 
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There will be no limitation on the Pyra that prevents you from using the phone functionality.
The Pyra Phone may be even running the same software or vice versa.
But the Pyras form factor makes it a little bit awkward to use it as a phone.
So some people may like that form factor more.
And the phone also reuses most of the circuit from the pyra.

So if you want a portable computer/gaming device first and a phone second buy the Pyra.
Else buy the Pyra Phone or a comparable device.
 

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Hello there,
I'm pretty new on the boards and I'm following the development of the Pyra since last summer and I really adore the idea behind this device.
I have just a minor question: Why is a now a Pyra Phone being developed by Nikolaus if the Pyra itself is already a phone with 4G/LTE support (at least the
mobile version)? The Pyra seems to be an all-in-one device and I hope that I won't have to get the Pyra Phone in order to be able to use the telephony service.
I wouldn't expect someone, who puts that much effort in countering a perceived shortage in Linux-devices of some kind, to deliver crippleware, when it would be so much easier to be content with the windows-driven alternatives, that actually exist. ;)
 

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After 3 years, this forum never ceases to amaze me. Keyboards, capacitors, colours, paint, yes... but I never thought there would be a discussion of types of screws re the Pyra!
We have been there, done that. Hundreds of posts on the topic. There was even a poll. Likely more threads than these two - I was looking for an example or two of the old discussion, not trying to be complete.

https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/screw-decisions-for-assembly.74281/
https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/screws-poll.47657/
 

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We have been there, done that. Hundreds of posts on the topic...
Yes, I kind of thought that after I posted. Thanks for the links, I voted on the poll ;-)

The discussions I'm really looking forward to are rejuvenated discussions on packaging.

Oh, and just out of curiosity, and had springs in the shoulder buttons been discussed before? Because that's looking like a neat update.
 
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