Is This Illegal/pirated?

[LHC]

Oh, and I know I'm not Jesus. Hell, I own a GP32, which makes me a bad, bad man. :angry:

Well, not per se, but for what I use it for.

 

[Rico]

sorry, but i get the piss taken out of me A LOT for it, it's just annoying because everyone always labels me as a thick shit coz i cant spell or read properly (maybe i'm illeterate)

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"An estimated 21 million Americans simply cannot read"

You can. Okay, I apologise for being insensitive, especially after your PM. I do have friends who have dyslexia (they get extra time for tests and stuff) and they spell fine so I probably took that generalisation and applied it to you. At least I won't think you're dumb anymore (and I'm sorry, that's just my natural reaction to it, I find it hard to talk to most girls on MSN for instance because of it - nothing to do with my self-confidence, honest )

 

[mattmagoo]

Oh God, I hate people that take extra time on exams!

I can manage in a test no problem, i don't see why others cant (a lot of dyslexic people I know just use it as an excuse to not do work, and end up getting worse at raeding and such) , I just steer clear of english tests

I don't care if your light heartidly joking about it (especially if said jokes involve illiterate americns)

I will try to read through my posts to check for spelling

AFAIK the above post contain no spelling mistakes

 

[LHC]

raeding and such) ,

I don't care if your light heartidly joking about it

AFAIK the above post contain no spelling mistakes

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ho ho ho :rolleyes:

 

[Tobriand]

Any chance of spltting this topic? Its got a fairly clearcut line in it a few pages back, after all, between when it stopped being about OEM software, and started to be about MP3s and bands and charities...

Just a thought; I'm not getting involved in the actual war (though it is more interesting than many flamewars I've seen)

 

[thebluenewt]

I thought the stuff about bands was interesting but then it all went to Hell.

 

[mattmagoo]

raeding and such) ,

I don't care if your light heartidly joking about it

AFAIK the above post contain no spelling mistakes

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ho ho ho :rolleyes:

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damnit

 

[LHC]

Couldn't resist, sorry.

 

[raven]

I don't condone sanctions on these countries, although I'm not sure you can make the claim that we are benefiting greatly from their plight. I don't really believe in 'the economy' (that is to say, Company X making profits shouldn't effect person Y, unless they are in some way connected) however, and I don't support 'western society' gaining from this either. Indeed, this couldn't happen if the governments didn't control the economy.

I don't want to prevent people giving them 'a handful' of money, but I haven't deprived them of anything, so I don't feel guilty.

PS CapMag

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You don't see how a company making money by buying from one country for next to nothing and selling with a lot of profit affects two countries (the country it's based in and the country it buys from) and thereby everybody living there? Are you for real? Follow that money-trail, what do you think happens with it? It goes from A to B and simply disappears?
The government controls the economy? Who do you think governments represent when they force an embargo on another country? It doesn't matter if a company does this or if this is done by a government representing companies. Money gives you the power to force other people to do what you want, individuals or nations.

The way you talk you should either drop out of society completely (don't pay taxes but not a single benefit either) or you should try to think a little bigger. Nobody is an island, we all affect eachother.

 

[Kop_007]

Hahahah

Spelling mistakes? As if. Like it matters. Internet forum, not the Oxford Dictionary.

 

[Rico]

Couldn't resist, sorry.

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You see I did.

Tobriand: I agree and was going to, just leaving a bit of time for it to 'settle down'. I believe the line can be drawn around post #23 (yes, it's mine ) although the thread was kinda derailing prior to that.

Whaddya think guys, LOL or spam?

 

[LHC]

You don't see how a company making money by buying from one country for next to nothing and selling with a lot of profit affects two countries (the country it's based in and the country it buys from) and thereby everybody living there? Are you for real? Follow that money-trail, what do you think happens with it? It goes from A to B and simply disappears?

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Countries don't trade with countries. Companies trade with companies. Hence, when Company X buys from Company Y through mutual agreement, nobody has lost out. Company Y agreed to sell for the price, noone has done anything wrong. Following that Company X sells on their stock to the public, who once again agree to pay the price.

The government controls the economy? Who do you think governments represent when they force an embargo on another country?

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Themselves. It is them that benefits from a companies success, through increased tax revenue etc.

It doesn't matter if a company does this or if this is done by a government representing companies. Money gives you the power to force other people to do what you want, individuals or nations.

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If two people agree to something, then it isn't 'force'.

The way you talk you should either drop out of society completely (don't pay taxes but not a single benefit either) or you should try to think a little bigger. Nobody is an island, we all affect eachother.

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I agree, but I have no idea how to do this.



PS You can respond to this, but I'm off to bed now.

 

[raven]

You don't see how a company making money by buying from one country for next to nothing and selling with a lot of profit affects two countries (the country it's based in and the country it buys from) and thereby everybody living there? Are you for real? Follow that money-trail, what do you think happens with it? It goes from A to B and simply disappears?

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Countries don't trade with countries. Companies trade with companies. Hence, when Company X buys from Company Y through mutual agreement, nobody has lost out. Company Y agreed to sell for the price, noone has done anything wrong. Following that Company X sells on their stock to the public, who once again agree to pay the price.

The government controls the economy? Who do you think governments represent when they force an embargo on another country?

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Themselves. It is them that benefits from a companies success, through increased tax revenue etc.

It doesn't matter if a company does this or if this is done by a government representing companies. Money gives you the power to force other people to do what you want, individuals or nations.

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If two people agree to something, then it isn't 'force'.

The way you talk you should either drop out of society completely (don't pay taxes but not a single benefit either) or you should try to think a little bigger. Nobody is an island, we all affect eachother.

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I agree, but I have no idea how to do this.

PS You can respond to this, but I'm off to bed now.

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You really seem to think companies and governments are two seperate entities, one honest and just and the other evil. Have a look at the USA elections, how does a president get to be a president, who sponsors him? Do you think it's any different in countries where this is not so clearly visible?

Why do you think companies pay lobbyists? Why do you think government officials visit companies? Why do you think so many people working for the govenment also have, or get, important functions in the biggest companies in every country? Why do you think Bush (at a certain point) blocked steel imports from Europe?

Governments represent companies (amongst other things), the embargos are placed because it benefits the companies. It's not just about taxes: if a company makes money they will hire more people, less unemployment, more investments by those people etc.

Countries do trade with other countries: if you buy our grains we will buy your cattle. These deals are made for companies but by countries, what do you think Bush is doing when he is trying to 'persuade' african countries to buy geneticly altered crops? Do you think he grows them himself?

Don't get me started on two people/companies agreeing on something. It's quite easy to get someone to agree with you if they are totally dependant on your investments, even if it kills them in the long run. If you 'agree' with me because you know your country won't survive next year if you don't that's force. Not to mention most of these countries used to be occupied by us (again: 'us' being western countries). Their debts and our riches started back then.

If you want to have this honest society where everything is honestly done by people trading with eachother without interference you would first have to give back everything that was ever taken by force or accept that someday it will be taken back by force. To ensure nothing is taken back by force we spend a little money on other countries each year, we got, and still get, more out of that than we invest.

I missed your PS, good night

 

[yaustar]

On the original topic, you may want to buy the student editon of office instead... I think it is around £80 for 2003... not 100% sure...

 

[bringoutthegimp]

my wang almost got hard reading this shit thread

 

[LHC]

You really seem to think companies and governments are two seperate entities, one honest and just and the other evil. Have a look at the USA elections, how does a president get to be a president, who sponsors him? Do you think it's any different in countries where this is not so clearly visible?

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I do believe this, and I believe in a civilised society companies shouldn't benefit from sponsoring candidates, as it should be of no concern of the government.

Why do you think companies pay lobbyists? Why do you think government officials visit companies? Why do you think so many people working for the govenment also have, or get, important functions in the biggest companies in every country? Why do you think Bush (at a certain point) blocked steel imports from Europe?

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They blocked imports so people would "buy american". This way the money stays in the American economy, and the government benefits from this.

Governments represent companies (amongst other things), the embargos are placed because it benefits the companies. It's not just about taxes: if a company makes money they will hire more people, less unemployment, more investments by those people etc.

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The embargoes etc all benefit the government, as does the less unemployment. As if a company actually benefits from being so heavily taxed. Businessmen know a lot better how to run a business, and they will benefit a lot more through their own business tactics than the government (a) crippling the competition or (B) creating false competition.

Countries do trade with other countries: if you buy our grains we will buy your cattle. These deals are made for companies but by countries, what do you think Bush is doing when he is trying to 'persuade' african countries to buy geneticly altered crops? Do you think he grows them himself?

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I'm sorry you are probably right here. Countries probably do trade with countries, but I was assuming that companies weren't explicitly denied the right to their own affairs.

Don't get me started on two people/companies agreeing on something. It's quite easy to get someone to agree with you if they are totally dependant on your investments, even if it kills them in the long run. If you 'agree' with me because you know your country won't survive next year if you don't that's force.

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No it isn't. The following situation is force:
I steal £10 off you, then agree to give it back in exchange for your being my slave for a day, because you need £10 to live.

The following situation is not force:
I have £10 of my own money, which you need to live. You agree to be my slave for a day in order to have my £10.

The two situations are very different, as in the first siuation I have done something wrong, whereas in the second I have not. This is the same as the situation in modern society. Although in the imperial times what 'we' did was entirely wrong and I am not condoning it in any way, African's have no inherent right to my cash, as I personally have done nothing wrong.

Not to mention most of these countries used to be occupied by us (again: 'us' being western countries). Their debts and our riches started back then.

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I won't accept the blame for this. Anyway, I expect 'our' riches began when 'we' civilized 'ourselves' through true trade and 'they' did not.

If you want to have this honest society where everything is honestly done by people trading with eachother without interference you would first have to give back everything that was ever taken by force or accept that someday it will be taken back by force. To ensure nothing is taken back by force we spend a little money on other countries each year, we got, and still get, more out of that than we invest.

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I disagree with this. I don't think we do gain more than we invest.

 

[Rico]

my wang almost got hard reading this shit thread

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Find something better to do.

 

[declaration]

I just made one point about not giving money to millionaires as if they were charities.

My comment was case specific.
I would totally agree with Rico's original sentiments of giving the artist some financial support in other circumstances,

But Green Day. They are super rich and really really dont need the money. They have enough money after pumping out compilations and DVD's at inflated prices to get even more money from their fans.

That money would be better spent elsewhere, if even on a newer up and coming band, or obviously on charity too.

plus- Bringoutthegimp- Why even bother posting that in about 60% of all threads?

if artists made all albums £5, then maybe alot more people wouldnt feel so pissed off about buying them. They dont deserve to be working at KFC, but do they deserve to be millionaires?
Does anybody deserve to be millionaires?
No.

 

[thebluenewt]

Does anybody deserve to be millionaires?
No.

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Socialist nonsense, maybe some people don't deserve it, rapists who win our National Lottery for example... But why should someone who has come up with something new and innovative that millions of people use not be a millionaire?

Green Day on the other hand don't deserve it.

 

[Steve-O]

Wow it sold for £92.50 did you buy it??