FaeMinx
Rainbow Liberation Instigation
I'm a bit confused... who do I contact and how in order to make it known I would be happy with an ICP1?
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iCP2: They're throwing in the towel.
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MWeston
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These projects have never been about making money for me, as I had hoped might someday happen. At least twice Craig has asked me if I wanted to be paid for profits made on iCP or roll it back into production so we can make more and I always told him to use it to build more to expand the customer base and hopefully make the product into something popular (my hope anyway). I suppose looking back I'm a fool for not taking the money and instead walking away with nothing but it is what it is.
Another thing to note is that money that is sent to me gets used to buy all the prototype parts, PCBs, cables, soldering and test equipment, shipping fees and anything else related to development. At the end of the day, if there is anything left, I go buy myself a Slurpee or something.
I have a big box completely filled with receipts for the tens of thousands of dollars I have spent over the years with these projects. Money in was always close to money out and I focused on not being out of pocket while also doing all the work of designing this stuff.The code was fairly complete other than a few little things, mainly with the nubs. I had the original iCP2 board (the one Craig shows in all his videos) working with full iCP1 capability (minus nubs) and could play games with it. I had a really cool control system for the RGB LEDs on the backlight version of the iCP2 board. It was all interrupt driven with PWM control of the lights so the user would set a few variables in their code and the background ISRs would handle fading the lights in and out and doing whatever special modes were enabled. The keyboard scanning matrix was working which was the main difference between the old iCP and the iCP2. I had all the HID tables mapped to keys in a rudimentary setup that included holding down FN, SHIFT, etc. It was based on the layout chosen by users of this forum in a poll going way back.
The bootloader was working and flashing the board was a much easier process of plugging in a USB cable and holding down the same button combos as iCP but without the complicated Bluetooth link that so many people had trouble with.
Oh, I also had some test HID profiles added to the BT modules to support reports that looked like the PS3, Wii and XBOX. That took a fair bit of back and forth with the BT module manufacturer and I don't know if they would have worked properly. I just wanted them in so developers could play around and see if we could mimic those controllers on apps that had native support for those controllers.
I was able to add the IR receiver and transmitter circuitry to the design before production as well. The parts weren't getting populated but the pads were there as requested. I also added a two pin header at the edge of the board for DAC output in order to mimic a game controller that used the headphone jack of any smart phone to transmit gaming controls. I don't remember what that controller was called but I thought people could have fun with that one too. It was an unofficial feature not documented or discussed until now, I think.
It was coming together nicely on my end and it was a little sad when it all started falling apart and apparent I was working hard for nothing. Once that happened, I couldn't imagine spending more time on this when it was never going to be made so everything just stopped at that point.
vcoleiro1
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For those looking for an ICP1 instead of a refund, email the address icp2refund@gmail.com
with Subject: NO $ REFUND ICP1 Instead
FaeMinx
Rainbow Liberation Instigation
Thanks. :3
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comradekingu
Glowing ember
so there are refunds going out from craig (supposedly) before he comes clear on where the 35000 (was it?) that went to him ended up?
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I thought these came from the unpaid Ghz units he tricked out of ED.
andmaz777
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.....so if parts were bought and only the nubs needed to be tweaked then why did Craig need and extra $20k to finish the project?
All I can see is that the backlighting that was not part of the original prototype went out of control.
Why did he not just stick with what was known worked, mass produce, sell, make loads of money and then look at enhancements?
After already losing a fortune (not sure how much was his) on the Pandora then the backlighting was a massive gamble for nothing!
All I can see is that the backlighting that was not part of the original prototype went out of control.
Why did he not just stick with what was known worked, mass produce, sell, make loads of money and then look at enhancements?
After already losing a fortune (not sure how much was his) on the Pandora then the backlighting was a massive gamble for nothing!
Franko
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What if. That's been the mantra for so long. NOW is the future of PANDORA....no, wait....then,,,,no. The PYRA is the future.
So we have something unique.
We ARE aflame~`
So we have something unique.
We ARE aflame~`
Franko
Active Member
I could sell shit sandwiches.
Although I'd feel bad about it at the end o' the day.
Although I'd feel bad about it at the end o' the day.
Franko
Active Member
Let Craig just lay down.....let him do what sad people do.. If he wants to incriminate himself, so be it?
Franko
Active Member
I'm just thinking of "pyra" names...
The Pyra-MID
It's a mid-sized computer that's still tiny, but your Mom will like it when she gets glasses and passes that course.
The Pyra-MID
It's a mid-sized computer that's still tiny, but your Mom will like it when she gets glasses and passes that course.
iprice
Certified Guru
I was always partial to the PYRA-mint. A pyramid of dark chocolate filled with a creamy mint fondant
WizardStan
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Also, as far as I know, this had nothing to do with Craig. Craig got a third of the money to produce the case and keymat and that money somehow vanished with nothing to show for it. Meanwhile the electronics and the software are effectively done.I will 3D print myself a case and keymat if I have to!
Franko
Active Member
Not to worry. He's 3-D printing the cases right now....well, tomorrow morning, or later - he's got a wicked hangover...we request that you completely understand how ridiculous this is. Thank you for your patronage.
You're making the same massive assumption that Link is, that Craig will actually follow through and deliver something he promised. Why do you think he'll suddenly start delivering now?
If I were Link I certainly wouldn't be posting Craig's promises on Kickstarter or anywhere else, chances are he's just going to be made a fool of again.
Timstertoo
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Because that way Link can try to create a bit of space between himself and Craig in the eyes of the backers.
Instead of "we" are offering this choice it's Link informing the rest about something that is out of his hands and not his fault.
Well, my guess is that he found out that the dome caps and the case production would be too expensive... no one except him knows anything, as he never let anyone know.
Franko
Active Member
Yup. Sounds about right.
FaeMinx
Rainbow Liberation Instigation
This is true... but I sent the message I would take an icp1 instead of a refund anyway. I'm not expecting anything, but if I get an icp1 out of this it will be a pleasant surprise.
Realistically, I don't see any legal action being taken towards Craig.
I'm still undecided wether he's just a foolish incompetent or a devious enough criminal to pass himself off as an one.
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Franko
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FaeMinX --->
I've read your posts for almost a decade.....wake up!
How delusional can one be? Oh I don't know.....let me trust Craig yet another time...
I've read your posts for almost a decade.....wake up!
How delusional can one be? Oh I don't know.....let me trust Craig yet another time...
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