GTA15/PyraPhone


Askarus

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It will be pain in the ass to use Pyra as a phone,
The LTE modem is a great feature for mobile INTERNET data on this pocket computer but making calls on Pyra ? COME ON!


You guys don't understand, the mobile smart phone is a essential TOOL this days especially in the business and corporate environment,
So tell me why I should cripple my productivity with a Pyra phone, or worst - getting Pyra and use it as my main phone ?

Librem 5 is the only close to reality FSF endorsed smart phone which will be an actual and useful product.
Pyra phone is a MEME, and using Pyra as a phone is also MEME.
I do phone calls maybe 1-2 times per month.
The rest is Telegram.
When doing phone calls I'm at home and use the hands free speakers to put the phone somewhere near me and talk to it like.

It's perfectly fine to use the Pyra for that.
I don't have a job where I have to take phone calls on my mobile phone.
Also I don't have friends that require me to use Instagram, Twitter, whatever.

All I need my phone for is mobile data and 1-2 private phone calls.
Rest is Photos and NFC and navigation.
 

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I do phone calls maybe 1-2 times per month.
The rest is Telegram.
When doing phone calls I'm at home and use the hands free speakers to put the phone somewhere near me and talk to it like.

It's perfectly fine to use the Pyra for that.
I don't have a job where I have to take phone calls on my mobile phone.
Also I don't have friends that require me to use Instagram, Twitter, whatever.

All I need my phone for is mobile data and 1-2 private phone calls.
Rest is Photos and NFC and navigation.
That sound sad and depressive.
You need more heavy metal music, concerts, and beer in you life man.

I don't have any facebook, instagram, twitter or any of this antisocial media crap.

I have 2 phones with 3 SIM cards in total.
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and Nokia 3310 (the new one with 2 SIM cards)

1 SIM for personal calls
1 SIM for business calls
1 SIM for personal business calls :D


The Librem 5 will replace my Note 3 (great device served me well over the years)
and maybe Matrix on it will help me to ditch the Nokia.

For me Pyra will be exactly Pyra - Pocket sized, ARM Powered, Linux PC with gaming controls. It will not replace my laptop or any of my phones.
I will use it during the free time on my business trips, or in bed. :D
 

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That sound sad and depressive.
You need more heavy metal music, concerts, and beer in you life man.
I know my girlfriend is stalking me on the internet.
So please tell her to play some nice videogames with me and to massage me.
I need that to temporarily forget about my depressing life.
And refusing any wish is very bad for my mental health.
So tell her to never do that.


I have 2 phones with 3 SIM cards in total.
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and Nokia 3310 (the new one with 2 SIM cards)
I also have 3 SIM cards.
But they all share the same contract/number.
So one is for the Pyra, and one for my phone. The other one is just in case I need one more.
So multiple SIM cards does not mean more contacts.
So depressing ...
 

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I don't see the point for different reasons:

The most important is that this will be a product for a monitory inside of another monitory, so it won't have a lot of soft adapted to it.

People using desktop Linux (as I do) is a monitory but big enough. The big different here is that Linux in desktop is big enough to be successful, but Linux in a smartphone interface is not big enough and it won't be.

In a Pyra you have a desktop, small but a desktop (and physical keyboard), so you have near all you have in a big desktop (but in smaller size). So I see Pyra amazing (a Linux computer in my pocket with Linux desktop, keyboard and gaming controls).

In a Linux custom smartphone you have... nothing: you can't use desktop properly, you can't type in a confortable way because in a 5 inches display a virtual keyboard takes a lot of display space, and worse, typing in a resistive display is not very good (I remember it from old times).

¿A touch smartphone today with no soft (not Android soft nor Linux desktop soft) and with resistive display? Are you joking?

For me it is Pyra that eats this phone, as Pyra can use desktop Linux, has physical keyboard (plus gaming controls) so we can type precise Linux commands and can input data without eating half screen with a virtual keyboard, even Pyra has a 4G optional module so it can be used as a phone or connected computer.

I love Pyra palmtop, but I don't see point in a smartphone with Linux.

PD: Most applies to Librem smartphone (except resistive touch display).
 

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It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation really. There's no decent phone software for linux (outside of android which runs on a patched kernel anyway), so you can't make a phone with it, so there's no reason to make phone software for it. The Pyra, being portable and having cellular facilities, will help, but this thing existing should really help focus minds, and it certainly can't hurt. But yeah, it's not a phone for most people just yet.

I'd also disagree that typing is bad on a resistive screen keyboard. You have to learn to use your fingernail if you're not using a stylus, and I've lost my 3DS stylus, and I have to enter my password frequently to log in to the online stuff, and using my little fingernail almost always works for me. I was surprised personally that typing on a capacitive screen every really works, and the rise of autocorrect probably helps to explain why people generally find it okay.
 

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I'd like a linux phone to be pretty much a dumb terminal that could sync email, calendar and perhaps contacts with my server, and offer basic text and (voip) calling. Last thing I need is another addictive distraction device.

Anything beyond that would be a nice to have (but redundant if I have a Pyra), except perhaps light browsing (only allowing javascript for this forum)
 

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I'd like to know what typing on it will be like. Are you sure it's wise to use a resistive screen? I feel like touchscreen typing would work better on a capacitive one, unless it's a really sensitive resistive one.
 

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Exactly this!
Once the Pyra has software for Travel/GPS, and some chat software, sure. But some apps are not yet on Linux. I agree with others that software is still a problem.

Personally I think the PyraPhone is not a bad idea, but will need to wait until the Pyra has enough programmer-users that make viable software, which then could be "ported/adapted" to a keyboardless Pyra/GTA15.
And having both would be cool, program/test on Pyra, move to Pyraphone and take your Pyraphone with you (in a formfactor that fits the pocket of non-cargo-pants)

It will not replace my laptop or any of my phones.
It will replace the Pandora, does that not make you sad?

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Once the Pyra has software for Travel/GPS
Navigation has long been possible on the Pandora using Navit and a USB GPS dongle. The offerings have gotten even better over the last 5 years. This is a solved problem.
It doesn't have all the features of Google Maps, but it does well enough. No voice commands, for example: can't just say "Pyra, navigate home" and it do it. At least not yet >_>

and some chat software
What chat system are you looking for? The only relatively popular chat software I'm aware of that doesn't work on ARM Linux is Skype.
 

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That sound sad and depressive.
You need more heavy metal music, concerts, and beer in you life man.
Not spending much time attached to a phone sounds "sad and depressive" to you?

That's kind of sad, and depressing.

I don't have any facebook, instagram, twitter or any of this antisocial media crap.
Me neither! High five, bro!

It will be pain in the ass to use Pyra as a phone,
The LTE modem is a great feature for mobile INTERNET data on this pocket computer but making calls on Pyra ? COME ON!


You guys don't understand, the mobile smart phone is a essential TOOL this days especially in the business and corporate environment,
So tell me why I should cripple my productivity with a Pyra phone, or worst - getting Pyra and use it as my main phone ?

Librem 5 is the only close to reality FSF endorsed smart phone which will be an actual and useful product.
Pyra phone is a MEME, and using Pyra as a phone is also MEME.
Haha yeah you definitely sound like the coolest egotistical teenager on the block! Bro-fist! ()()()(),

Personally I don't ever hold my smartphone up to my ear, not since like the 90's. I love my Bluetooth earpiece for calls, and that should work exactly as well with my Pyra. Plus, texting with a physical keyboard way beats touchscreen texting.

For me the Pyra will completely replace everything except my living room PC, and the only thing I do on my PC that I know I won't be able to do on a Pyra is use my Oculus Rift.

Damn Facebook for buying Oculus and killing the promised Linux compatibility. I hate running Windows on my PC :(
 
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levi

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Haha yeah you definitely sound like the coolest egotistical teenager on the block!
Given Thinkpad's been on here since 2012 I think it's fairly safe to say he's probably no teenager these days.

I also think you're hitting a little below the belt there. It's very much me selectively editing a longer post though, but I tend to think this thread especially could do with cooling down a little, so hot posts don't really help.
 

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Given Thinkpad's been on here since 2012 I think it's fairly safe to say he's probably no teenager these days.
Oh, I didn't mean to suggest he is a teenager, just point out that his post makes him sound like one.

I also think you're hitting a little below the belt there. It's very much me selectively editing a longer post though, but I tend to think this thread especially could do with cooling down a little, so hot posts don't really help.
Yeah, I was basically choosing between ignoring him entirely, or communicating in his language. I chose the latter, it's more entertaining, and there's a chance that if the way his posts make him look is pointed out to him a few times, he might learn from it.

That said, your point is valid. Negativity to counter negativity might not be the best strategy. I'll take your advice and aim higher.

EDIT: Oh! I just noticed I quoted the wrong Thinkpad post when I made the teenager comment! Whoops! Haha no wonder that looked extra toxic. I've corrected it now, hopefully my response makes a bit more sense in the right context!

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It will replace the Pandora, does that not make you sad?
I've been giving thought to what I will do with my beloved Pandora, once I get a Pyra. The one thing the Pandora will likely still beat the Pyra at, is as a dedicated music player. I'll probably leave my Pandora at work, permanently hooked up to my speaker system, as a ridiculously overkill music player. Rockbox and a couple SD cards full of FLAC should help me feel less sad about replacing what has become my every-day constant companion for years and years.
 
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For me Rockbox is a tad unstable unfortunately.. Might be the SID plug-in or something though it crashes with mp3's too...

What will I do with my Pandora when I get my Pyra... daym... tough one... I might just leave it on a shelf or something, I couldn't part with it... <3:p&|a:
[doublepost=1551526920,1551526466][/doublepost]Besides this phone (with flash-light LED and camera) :cool: maybe a Pyra laptop, like the pi-top would be a nice idea too, I don't think it would be too hard to make such a thing with a standard Pyra motherboard, or would it? :D
 

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@trix is buthurt for something, and I don't know what is it and I don't care at all :D
so @trix you can stay buthurt xD it doesn't make any difference for me. :cool:
 

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Back on topic to the gta15 - Pyraphone?

I'm very curious how the gta15 is going to handle the apparent Linux software hole for dialing software and contacts database and the like - i.e. the phone calling/receiving/database side of things. @hns - do you already have Linux friendly applications in mind for doing these functions?
 

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I was hoping to work on some dialer and contact db software, but i can't work out how to enable the voice part of the 4g modern i bought (assuming it has one), so I'll wait until I've got the pyra now. I suppose i could still implement around the actual phone functions for now (maybe just start with contacts with CardDAV support)
 
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