Games Etc


Cas said:
One last post before I go......


So it seems that if you say it how it is you get ridiculed here, well I am sorry I am not part of the inner sanctum and have


not been accepted into the community, well you can stick your community up your arse as far as I am concerned.


EDIT : Sorry to not have the technical knowledge or Linux knowledge that most here seem to have, seems that is what you need here to be accepted.
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Hey Cas! Don't go. Speaking from experience, the trick is not to make demands and not to use emotions.


There is quite a bit of sound flame-proof advice given here.


Get involved a little, at your own pace, and you'll really start to see that it is not a bland 3DS in your hand.


Ask for help, nicely, and you should get it. If that's a snotty reply with a link to the wiki then give it a read it.
 
I think it's hard for most of us to look at the Pandora from anything but a developer's standpoint, rather than an end user. This isn't aimed directly at Cas, but at the average Joe (or Jo) who doesn't see this as a hive of development activity but as a product produced with providing a use. Be the use playing games, listening to music, or surfing the Net, instabilities aren't what you'd expect to find on a regular basis across the board. I know this post sounds kind of belligerent, but I really want to help the developer<->user relationship, even if it is in a somewhat disparate post. It would be great if there were a unified way for developers to talk to users and for users to talk to developers, of course that's what the boards are for, though it is difficult to provide a stream of correspondence for game X and game Y in one board unless there were a naming scheme put in place that everyone could agree to. Ideally a board for each program would be available via the Pandora Apps site but I'm not trying to insinuate this must be done, it's merely something I thought would be useful for everyone.
 
i see absolutely no problems in enduser-developer communications in this community, pretty much any developer/porter/coder is easily found, whether it be on the official boards, gp32x boards, repo comment box, irc, and anything in between, nice first post though, and welcome, even though youve been on here since the birth of these here boards
 
Alerino said:
also, don't mix things, software issues have nothing to do with "being abandoned" or whatever that means
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nothing to do with "software issues" (i didn't say that...LOL) but something to do with no help given (please read correctly the quote of my message you answered)


and if you really think the pandora is not for the enduser who wants to use it without pottering-about (in reading your post, it seems that you think it) so this important thing must be clearly notified on the characteristics of the product to avoid people to firstly buy it and secondly to be asked to sell it because the pandora is not for them.


this will have the advantage to reduce the waiting queue.
 
ahahah said:
BaDToaD said:
I've got to say this Cas. Maybe you should sell you pandora and buy a 3DS...
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it is the only help you will propose to all buyers that will have issues...?


how to not have the sentiment to be abandonned after 2 years of waiting for this answer. what a disappointment.


i have not received my pandora yet, but i prepare to have also some issues.


i wish i will not receive this kind of answers...
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If you ask nicely I'm sure you wouldn't receive an answer like I replied to Cas. On the other hand, do you think it's right to slate developers just because their software has bugs?


I've had issues with my Pandora and software but I follow a standard route.


1. Try to figure out the problem myself


2. Read the forum to see if anyone else has had the issue I have got.


3. If I can't find the answer and the feature/software is of sufficient importance to me post a question on the forum.


There have been times when I've been annoyed by my pandora related problems but ranting serves no purpose whatsoever.


If you can't do the above then is it really wrong to be told to sell up and get a mainstream device?
 
Guys, cool the arguments. Forgive me for comparisons, but hakmanplayer had even more problems that Cas did. Not only does he still hang around here, but we were all certainly more helpful to him.
 
Blue Protoman said:
Guys, cool the arguments. Forgive me for comparisons, but hakmanplayer had even more problems that Cas did. Not only does he still hang around here, but we were all certainly more helpful to him.
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Sure, but he never implied that devs are doing shitty work
 
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It's all a bit odd, Cas is a regular poster in the Amiga emlators threads, and he's been very keen to post issues and request updates if required in there in a straightforward fashion. I'llI know very little about Linux so I'm a good man for asking stupid questions on here on occasion, but I've always found someone will give me the answers I'm looking for, or at least point me in the right direction!
 
It is true that some apps are definitely not straight forward for the average joe, for instance I know many people that would never be able to work out how to get something like Hexen 2 to run, even with instructions. Some of the emulators have slightly baffling gui's, which if I gave to a friend he would look at it blankly, press a few buttons and then hand it back to me to make it work. From anyone that has good experience of emulation this is all old hat.


You have to remember that these are still early days with the Pandora though, some of the devs have only had their units for a few months and there are still people waiting to receive theirs. With that said, some software may never 'advance' if the dev involved has already deemed it as finished, but as others have said; it is their work and they gave it away for free, we can't demand or expect anything, we should just be grateful that these skilled bastards are toiling away for our enjoyment.


Craig has a vision of total user friendliness, he said that he wanted the pandora to be something that your nan could pick up and use, but some software will always need the user to do a bit of research or ask for help.
 
stouffa said:
I've never gotten Hexen 2 to work actually! ;)
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Yeah it's tricky not only do you need the data files from the retail game, but you need to ensure they are patched to version 1.11 in order for it to run at all.
 
stouffa said:
I've never gotten Hexen 2 to work actually! ;)
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Yea it was not the easiest game to get working, I almost gave up at one point, that's why I chose it!


I had the retail pak file and needed to patch it as Trashy says, but patching it turned out to be a royal pain in the keister.
 
Sugar_Kane said:
You have to remember that these are still early days with the Pandora though, some of the devs have only had their units for a few months and there are still people waiting to receive theirs. With that said, some software may never 'advance' if the dev involved has already deemed it as finished, but as others have said; it is their work and they gave it away for free, we can't demand or expect anything, we should just be grateful that these skilled bastards are toiling away for our enjoyment.
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I wish more people would keep that in mind. These are indeed the early days, but hang around and one will see older things get better and newer, cooler things materialize. I have seen much happen in just the couple months I've had mine.


btw, Sugar_Kane, love the new avatar!
 
Did many people buy a canoo??


I bought a wiz and then the pandora.


My daughter has the wiz now. and she's constantly coming up with games she wants on it... so far we made a terrible looking maze game.
 
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