I wouldn't myself. Maybe on the top then? Either way, the biggest surface area will be on your face like a phone.Whoops. My fault there, I got that part of our argument confused with facts from the other part. You're right, we should for the definition of whether this is considered sidetalking assume that that a mic and earpiece exist on the bottom while one uses it.
In that case, I'm not sure what it would be. I would still consider it odd, because it is the bottom of the device. Others may not. I'm sure some will define it as sidetalking.
-God Ginrai
Althought that demo was using a Pandora.SIdetalking? Is that a feature request? I think the Pyra will support it out of the box, no problem -- ED even gave a demo at the FOSDEM talk
No. But a mic and speaker on the top or bottom is.SIdetalking? Is that a feature request? I think the Pyra will support it out of the box, no problem -- ED even gave a demo at the FOSDEM talk
Honestly, that's unneeded. You close it if it's going into your pocket, in which case speakers are useless. If it's not going in a pocket, you can open the clamshell just fine.Also for non-phone use there is something to be said to have the mic and speakers at the outside when the lid is closed, so that you can use it as a portable radio or tape recorder without having to keep the lid open.
I wouldn't mind just sitting it on a dock and listening to music. Plus apparently, people like putting the devices inshirt pockets.Honestly, that's unneeded. You close it if it's going into your pocket, in which case speakers are useless. If it's not going in a pocket, you can open the clamshell just fine.
-God Ginrai
if it's on a dock, then wouldn't that dock be connected to better speakers?I wouldn't mind just sitting it on a dock and listening to music.Honestly, that's unneeded. You close it if it's going into your pocket, in which case speakers are useless. If it's not going in a pocket, you can open the clamshell just fine.
-God Ginrai
Afaik not all docks have speakers. Besides, even if just charging by cord.if it's on a dock, then wouldn't that dock be connected to better speakers?
-God Ginrai
Bad idea. Speakers need to point towards you or you have to make them much louder (and thus much more of a disturbance for those around you) to hear the same level of volume you would on the Pandora.It makes sense to close the lid to save power (since closing the lid disables the screen, which uses more power than anything else when playing music). It also makes sense to close the lid to make the device more compact and strong -- less likely to get damaged in case it accidentally gets dropped or whatever.
I wouldn't mind having the speakers in the sides of the base. There is no space in the lid, in the top of the base we can probably use the space for the keyboard and controls, and the backside is probably not a good idea. But the sides, it could work. My hands don't actually cover the sides when I'm holding my Pandora, they rather provide a shape that would more or less direct sound coming out of the sides to my ears. With the speakers in the sides, we would probably also get better stereo separation.
Having a mic on one of the sides would still works with what I was talking about before.But the sides, it could work. My hands don't actually cover the sides when I'm holding my Pandora, they rather provide a shape that would more or less direct sound coming out of the sides to my ears. With the speakers in the sides, we would probably also get better stereo separation.
So many devices with speakers on the sides and back, I really don't think it's that big of a deal.Bad idea. Speakers need to point towards you or you have to make them much louder (and thus much more of a disturbance for those around you) to hear the same level of volume you would on the Pandora.
Speakers are designed to be pointed towards the listener.
-God Ginrai
If you put the speakers on the side and use both hands to hold the device, your hands form a kind of shell that points the sound towards you. I think it would work quite well.Bad idea. Speakers need to point towards you or you have to make them much louder (and thus much more of a disturbance for those around you) to hear the same level of volume you would on the Pandora.It makes sense to close the lid to save power (since closing the lid disables the screen, which uses more power than anything else when playing music). It also makes sense to close the lid to make the device more compact and strong -- less likely to get damaged in case it accidentally gets dropped or whatever.
I wouldn't mind having the speakers in the sides of the base. There is no space in the lid, in the top of the base we can probably use the space for the keyboard and controls, and the backside is probably not a good idea. But the sides, it could work. My hands don't actually cover the sides when I'm holding my Pandora, they rather provide a shape that would more or less direct sound coming out of the sides to my ears. With the speakers in the sides, we would probably also get better stereo separation.
Speakers are designed to be pointed towards the listener.
-God Ginrai
And all got the same problem, that they need a surface to reflect the soundwave towards the user otherwise loudness is reduced drastically, something that should be avoided, Imho.So many devices with speakers on the sides and back, I really don't think it's that big of a deal.
I doubt we have space for that on the top side of the base. So the only possibility would be to place them on the side of the Pyra, which is something I would not want to favour as the holes of the speaker "grill" will probably get sticky through sweat and grease thus they will collect a lot of dirt.If you put the speakers on the side and use both hands to hold the device, your hands form a kind of shell that points the sound towards you. I think it would work quite well.
Thats true, that was derived from my usecase which is using the Pandora with a ~120° angle. But thinking about it again - when do we need max loudness the most ? While we are having it in our hands, meaning the device is rather close to our body, or when it is sitting on a surface alone (e.g. playing music, videos, or emu+ two external controllers) ?The base and the lid point exactly in the same direction if you use the device as a handheld.
If anything, my hands would direct the sound away from me when my hands are holding the device.If you put the speakers on the side and use both hands to hold the device, your hands form a kind of shell that points the sound towards you. I think it would work quite well.
How is that possible? When I hold my Pandora, with my index fingers on the shoulder buttons and my thumbs on the dpad and action buttons, the most comfortable position is to hold the device with my other fingers at the bottom and leave a gap of 5-10 mm at the sides. How do you hold it? With your index fingers on the dpad/buttons and your middle fingers at the shoulder buttons or something?If anything, my hands would direct the sound away from me when my hands are holding the device.If you put the speakers on the side and use both hands to hold the device, your hands form a kind of shell that points the sound towards you. I think it would work quite well.
-God Ginrai