Davec For Guru


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donny662 posted on Feb 23 2006 at 07:12 PM said:
Vimacs posted on Feb 23 2006 at 05:58 PM said:
guru is a badge offered to people who know what they talk about and can be trusted,
or as well people who developed something great wich usaly includes the first thing.

I dont see davec as beeing a guru, it realy takes more than that, it would reduce the worthyness of the badge if davec would get it.

He could have some special badge, official gp2x ranter, naysayer and cap crip.
His cap is something great. It has had a bigger impact on the GP2X scene than a lot of the applications some people have been guru'd for. It's not like he just made a mod and showed it off; he has made it available to everyone here. Sure, he gets some of his facts wrong sometimes, but guru status isn't an affirmation of perfection.

DaveC is certainly hardcore in the truest sense of the word; he helps newbies, he does some cool stuff and is genuinely useful; he's certainly one of the most visible members. Sometimes he makes us mental, too.. but thats a freebie on the side :) He's one of those guys thats on the good side.. the world fears when he sets his mind to evil, or to coding ;)

jeff
 
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ingrin posted on Feb 23 2006 at 06:26 PM said:
Are you implying that he does not know what he is talking about and cannot be trusted? Are you saying he hasn't developed something great?
Even if you take away the Cap, you still have oodles of other things he has done for the community.
- Disecting the Joystick assembly and making suggestions (that went to GPH for consideration in future releases) as to how to improve its function.
- Creating a diagram to help unify joystick use across the platform.
- Creating an improved LCD image to help users with tweaking
- offering no holds barred evaluation of the emulator's we have, helping to drive improvement.

He is blunt, but he is fair. While there have been a few times he ticked me off - Talking smack about a really decent NES emulator when it was first released, and complaining about battery life when he was just using a cheap pair of rechargables. For the most part, he adds alot more to the community than he takes from it.
you said it best :)
 
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Yes i think DaveC should be made Guru, because his LCD image helped me get my screen to be perfect or near perfect and his joystick mods has helped alot of people who find the stick terrible to be not so terrible (am i one of the only ones that found the original cap good?).

So assuming davec is gonna be a guru and that he will be reading this at some point, maybe he would like to give a speech ;)

p.s dont forget to cry
 
ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Are you implying that he does not know what he is talking about
YES!

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Are you saying he hasn't developed something great?
Nothing that would make him a guru.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Even if you take away the Cap, you still have oodles of other things he has done for the community. 
- Disecting the Joystick assembly and making suggestions (that went to GPH for consideration in future releases) as to how to improve its function. 
He made the cap, yes, thats it.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- Creating a diagram to help unify joystick use across the platform.
uhm, no, just because he postes his punny images in 10000 places dosnt make them worthwile.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- Creating an improved LCD image to help users with tweaking
Yeah, its not like evryone with mspaint and a few minutes of time could do that...
Realy nothing guru worthy.
ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- offering no holds barred evaluation of the emulator's we have, helping to drive improvement.
like? he usaly just annoys most devs.


ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
He is blunt, but he is fair.  While there have been a few times he ticked me off - Talking smack about a really decent NES emulator when it was first released, and complaining about battery life when he was just using a cheap pair of rechargables.  For the most part, he adds alot more to the community than he takes from it.
He adds some tihngs, and repeats them 9888988998945 times over months until it drives evryone crazy.


The thing that you people dont seem to understand is that the guru badge isnt/shouldnt be offered to someone just couse he may be a nice guy in your eyes,
but to someone who realy haves knowledge,
giveing it to less knowledged people makes it way less worthy.
It should be something you see while reading someones post and than know "he, he haves knowledge this post is trustwothy".
Davec haves a good share of total bullshitt posts, so it wouldnt be a good idear to make him guru.


Im tierd and i go to sleep now, grammer errors are intended as chellange.

Hate me, but remember my words.
 
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its not about likeleing, i think (hope) that im neutral and fair to evryone, while davec may sometimes contribute something great (like the cap) he definality dont seem to be guru worthy to me.
 
2 Cents here:
DaveC has done a quite bit for the community, the substantial thing in my opinion being his cap, which we all agree is rather marvelous. (I love that word).
However it would in my opinion sort of divide the community as he is sort of like the human version of marmite. People either love him or hate him.
I am not so much for him being a guru because of this, and because I think alot of what he does is just bigged up in this thread.
Take this quote by ingrin:
ingrin said:
- Disecting the Joystick assembly and making suggestions (that went to GPH for consideration in future releases) as to how to improve its function.
- Creating a diagram to help unify joystick use across the platform.
- Creating an improved LCD image to help users with tweaking
- offering no holds barred evaluation of the emulator's we have, helping to drive improvement.
I think it was good that he actually bothered to buy a joystick assembly to photograph + dissect and so on for the community, but I don't think that this really did very much good apart from letting us know why it was so shitty.
The diagram I have always considered pretty straightforward stuff, perhaps there are some developers that would not be resourceful enough to think of biasing towards certain directions but I don't really think this is the case, the reason that some don't is more that they want to do everything fast. Obviously the fact that the case diagrams were made does take out a bit of effort in creating bias on the joystick.
You want to see something that should be getting more attention then look here and not to mention and not to mention Radeks topic in which he proposed another more unorthodox way of fixing the stick. He was shot down by DaveC for this by the way.
Yes yes, he created an image. But I don't really see this being so different from creating a good skin.
While his criticism has often drived development in the correct direction it has often been thought of as being too negative or harsh by the devs.
Please note, I think he has toned down alot recently, so I don't think this is really the case anymore.
Whether what DaveC said to Squidge actually lead to a transparency hack I don't know. According to him "Yes and No", no idea what that means.
Edit: Random point here but has anybody seen the other thread?
Radek said:
There are two more effects in my demo. All are done using multiple playfields capable of pixel masking, zooming (trivial with my aproach but not showed in the demo) and the transparencies without any perfomance hit.

Look some other guys have vast technical knowledge and spent over a day working on their games and emulators with no pay (I am guessing, and from personal experience), how is what DaveC done in the same league?
 
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Well some of the devs do get pay but that is by donations, and isnt his cap in the same league or close to it because as he has stated before he makes like 2$ off of every sale which probably wouldnt match up to the donations that some devs get.
 
PostmanPat posted on Feb 24 2006 at 01:26 AM said:
Well some of the devs do get pay but that is by donations, and isnt his cap in the same league or close to it because as he has stated before he makes like 2$ off of every sale which probably wouldnt match up to the donations that some devs get.
Only the emu authors make money.
 
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How about making some new status, such as Rookie or Novice. Somebody who is proving very useful, but still has alot to learn. A guru in the making, or something.....

blah
 
Hanz™ posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:17 AM said:
Radek said:
There are two more effects in my demo. All are done using multiple playfields capable of pixel masking, zooming (trivial with my aproach but not showed in the demo) and the transparencies without any perfomance hit.
Look some other guys have vast technical knowledge and spent over a day working on their games and emulators with no pay (I am guessing, and from personal experience), how is what DaveC done in the same league?
Over a day? A day is pretty short compared to how much time I spent on my competition entry..... I spent every last second of my free time for two weeks, and I thought that was pretty quick for making a game. If I wasn't pressured with the competition deadline I would have spent a LOT more time on it, making everything polished.
 
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Vimacs posted on Feb 23 2006 at 11:53 PM said:
ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Are you implying that he does not know what he is talking about
YES!

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Are you saying he hasn't developed something great?
Nothing that would make him a guru.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
Even if you take away the Cap, you still have oodles of other things he has done for the community. 
- Disecting the Joystick assembly and making suggestions (that went to GPH for consideration in future releases) as to how to improve its function. 
He made the cap, yes, thats it.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- Creating a diagram to help unify joystick use across the platform.
uhm, no, just because he postes his punny images in 10000 places dosnt make them worthwile.

ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- Creating an improved LCD image to help users with tweaking
Yeah, its not like evryone with mspaint and a few minutes of time could do that...
Realy nothing guru worthy.
ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
- offering no holds barred evaluation of the emulator's we have, helping to drive improvement.
like? he usaly just annoys most devs.


ingrin posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:26 AM said:
He is blunt, but he is fair.  While there have been a few times he ticked me off - Talking smack about a really decent NES emulator when it was first released, and complaining about battery life when he was just using a cheap pair of rechargables.  For the most part, he adds alot more to the community than he takes from it.
He adds some tihngs, and repeats them 9888988998945 times over months until it drives evryone crazy.




It seems obvious that you just plain don't like me. That is fine but much of what you say is not true.

First you say that I don't know what I am talking about. In fact I do know alot of things and share them here. I am not referring to coding but to other topics ranging from electronics, display technology, interfaces, and many other related things. Honestly guru or not, you saying this is rather insulting. I know I have seen you say things that were just plain wrong many times, yet you were a guru.

I made the cap that is it? Very degrading and again not true. You don't think that things happen outside of these boards? Well you probably wouldn't because you can't see them obviously. But let me tell you you are VERY WRONG. I have been talking back and forth with many devs about improving many things in emulators and games from user interfaces to bug reports. I have even made some graphics (bingo from Guyfawkes for one). I would say that most emus that people use here have some of my ideas incorporated into them. One example is I contacted and discussed with FluBBa (great guy by the way, it was nice that he helped out with a system he doesn't even own) last week to inquire about an ASM core fix for DrZ80. I explained some things and bugs etc. It was after that that he told me that he would look at the code and see if he could fix anything. Now he is working (or looked at once not sure) with Reesy and Pepone to see if the Z80 ASM core can be fixed to improve the emus. Some that I know for a fact that I helped in some way (mostly interface and options, some beta testing on public AND private releases) are DrMD, Atari Lynx, Atari 400/800, Frodo, OutcaST, fCol32 (GP32), MAME, and I am sure a few others that I probably forgot. There are many other things but I don't want to sound like I am beating my chest. I only mentioned this much to prove Vimac's point wrong. Saying that I only made a cap is not only wrong it is again insulting.

Yeah the LCD tweak image was no great feat, you are right. So then why didn't YOU do it?

Since you belittle everything that I have done Vimacs, I have a question. What have YOU done that is so much better that you judge me in this way? That is not a shot or a flame, it is a legitimate question, really.

As far as the annoy part, yes it does happen. I will be the first to admit I am not always perfect. So yeah I don't think I would make a good pope or saint. Guru? well that is up to the community. I do agree that is a tough one as many users here are very helpful and knowledgeable so I don't know. What are the guidelines for that?

(And by the way I am suprised and glad to see this topic didn't just turn into a senseless flame war :) so far )
 
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deadlychicken22 posted on Feb 24 2006 at 01:41 AM said:
Hanz™ posted on Feb 24 2006 at 12:17 AM said:
Radek said:
There are two more effects in my demo. All are done using multiple playfields capable of pixel masking, zooming (trivial with my aproach but not showed in the demo) and the transparencies without any perfomance hit.
Look some other guys have vast technical knowledge and spent over a day working on their games and emulators with no pay (I am guessing, and from personal experience), how is what DaveC done in the same league?
Over a day? A day is pretty short compared to how much time I spent on my competition entry..... I spent every last second of my free time for two weeks, and I thought that was pretty quick for making a game. If I wasn't pressured with the competition deadline I would have spent a LOT more time on it, making everything polished.
Haha. Yes I know, it was a gross underestimation. When I have a programming assessment to hand in I normally end up spending over 6 hours doing it, and those are tiny.
 
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DaveC deserves his own category, since you can't realy fit him into guru nor normal member.
 
To be fair as someone who doesn't respect DaveC's opinion and belive he does more damage than good, Guru is kind of sick.

OTOH see what bad things have been said about him(by me never mind anyone else). I actually saw the word 'hate' the other day, and I can't think of a time when he hasn't acted like a gentlemen in those situations, and certainly that is more a quality of a moderator than a guru. For that though he would have to get in the queue.(and I suspect I would have to sign up to GPSpain quick sharpish and my spanish isn't all that good, and they will have their own el Daveo so I'm a long way from suggesting it as a good idea)

He is notirious in the community, and to give him an appropite title has some merit, but I believewould be fruitless as many people contribute that arn't guru's and deserve a title. In this community it starts to look like swimming badges, and Guru status gets watered down.

I don't think this thread is healthy, or even a good way to nominate guru's. I don't think its fair on Dave.
 
I'm against it too. Not that I appreciate what he has done for the community by providing his caps and help, but i think that's not enough for a guru-status. If he becomes a guru, then there are plenty of people who deserve this status-symbol too.
Before DaveC gets the guru, people like theoddbot should be guru.
 
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