He is maybe a "bad person", which is lying to his busissness partner.
Really? How much money then
you took from naive people if he is
just a maybe bad person? More then him, millions? Great for you then.
When you're covering LIAR as he is, why should anybody trust a word from
you?
It last from years, and you know it, so please: become a donator, indemnify few hundreds people here and few
thousands waiting for ICP2 - or shut up.
Alternatively we can let this be a shit show and then delete the thread late so no kne that wasnt here can read it
Please, cover it, hide it... so that this tragic game last for a few years more, and so that Mr C can parasite few thousands people more.
@EvilDragon
I don't want to argue too much but please, read it slowly. I am not accusing you for doing bad things directly. Just be patient.
You are trivializing whole problem to
"I am just helping this out" (and I don't have to). So this is it, if we are adoring you, then ok, but we have to be quiet, or... you'll leave us? Or is there
other reasons to repeat FOUR times:
- Should I stop deliver units to Craigs preorder customers and don't care about them anymore?
- But I guess I can either support Craigs remaining customers or let it be.
- It's my own decision to help out Craigs remaining preorders.
- I could stop helping out Craigs remaining preorders and no one could do anything against that.
I do not want to be part of this "chain of guilt", it is sick. Thanks for helping it, but you DID some things that we did not know about it at time, and... I feel that many of you know much more of Mr C "operations". More about it later.
eMails and customer data cannot be made public for legal reasons.
And a public list with artifical numbers doesn't really make sense, does it?
I believe you will not make artifical numbers, I trust you, and most people here do.
And,
let us decide does it have sense, please???
Beside, eMails could be hidden enough and you do know that well.
And last, but not the least:
You won't let "customer data" out because of legal reasons, even if that could help to stop Mr C make bad things to people?
People that send money and get nothing in return, have right to
give you legal permission to make part of their order data public.
You have just to ask them, or find somebody that you trust, to do that for you.
You are our last hope, ED-Wan Kenobi.
You know, transparency, no hush-hush anymore.
Public list, please: thousands got Pandora, few hundreds did not. People will donate money / upgrade if they see it at one place.
Because, _that_ kind of kickstarter (based on that kind of transparent data) will give us solution for preorders mess. And the best possible way out.
> And what business secret do I have...?
As a first, I am not accusing you, just I am appealing to be much responsible to "that" kind of people:
You did continuing sell parts to Mr C, fixed him broken nubs free of charge. Indirectly sponsoring him.
It seems like it was your "act of kindness", but as we see - it was just
giving that person power to continue to do what he does.
After he *** his customers, and after he *** them
again with Rebirth/upgrade story, you gave him a chance to do it
again (by selling it @ebay).
If you asked people here, by "private mail" (or whatever):
"Should I give him another chance?", there is a big probability that most people will say:
"Look ED, you're a nice guy, but this is like a give a drug to drug-addict". Unfortunately, that was
not public but
your private decision.
You (he, everybody...) can't be half a decent man, and half a dirty player, agree? So, you can't do business again and again with somebody of that kind, and trivializing it with: "I'm just helping here, I did not know what is he doing until now, and what he _could_ do if I help him again."
And thing about ICP2 will explode for sure, and many of you have your part in it. We know that Mr. C has a master degree in accusing everybody then himself for faults, so be warned: you'll be guilty, he will find a way to do it.
It is just example, do not trade with this guy anymore, send PUBLIC warning to your common (ex) business partners... this thing is more big then you imagine. He will find a way to <ehm> you again.
Last thing you need is connection ED = scam, and this prick is very dangerous. You stole him his preciousss. So
this is answer to
Where exactly am I his hostage?
We are all, but: as there is only one remaining unsatisfied preorder, or investor, you are in situation to get accused / get dirt on your name because of that situation. As Mr C said: "I do not have anything with that anymore, everything is in ED's hands". Do not forget that he publicly said that
you broke the arrangement between you both (omg how is this sick to write about). So it is just a question of time he will try again to make things like this construct.
You are smart, decent and logical - and you do know what FUD is. This is where he holds you.
And this guy acts like he has nothing to loose. Dangerous.
Pandora project should be cut out of Craig, not just because he is doing much more damage then whatever he contributed to project, but also because he is hurting people beyond Pandora project. There is no excuse for that behaviour, whatever you do can not fix damage he did/is doing/is planning to do.
Pandora was a jumping board for ICP2, ("we have been involved in such as the OpenPandora, iControlpad, GP2X &GP32"), and he will hurt more people just if he could, using you and Pandora.
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