Ack... Heroes... the show that could've been so great!x68000 said:
I haven't watched most of the shows you've mentioned, but I agree that Dexter is great. Unfortunately, I first viewed the cut version (of the first season) rather than the Showtime ones. The rampant cursing in the Showtime versions really turned me off. It's not how much they swear though - it's just that we use different swears where I live, so every single utterance coming out of their mouths is a bombshell. It's quite distracting, and takes away from the story.x68000 said:
I searched online for and found that Dexter is one of the few shows where the consensus is, censoring stuff actually improved it.
It's too bad they only censored one season.
Chuck certainly has some hilarious moments. I like it because (for the most part) they haven't fallen into the traps that every other show from recent years has. Shows like Heroes are hard for me to stomache.x68000 said:
iprice said:
+1 for Criminal Minds, NCIS, and House.
I was an avid Stargate fan until this one, as well.Alpha2 said:
I don't care about the atmosphere, so much as the completely ridiculous situations they throw the people into, and the conclusions they have them draw. Half the time you're expected to believe they are geniuses, and the other half they act as smart as teapots.
Plus, their actions push plot along, rather than being believable.
Examples:
It took me about 5 seconds after they started moving towards the sun to figure out *ding ding ding* it's refueling. Think: Ship travelling for 100k years, needs to refuel about every 5, probably.... DUH. Refueling.
Rush, the master manipulator, bluntly telling Young some crap straight to his face... so that Young punches him, which gives us a fight scene and then Rush gets knocked out, so that Aliens can pick him up and then they get to fight the bad nasty aliens (space battles!) and are victorious, but the aliens come back and they get to fight them again and again. Also, the aliens add drama by pinning them down, and restricting their escape routes. (such as when the Destiny was leaving the galaxy)
You know what? That's bullcrap. If I were writing it, Rush would've been stranded... but thanks to his decent memory and planning(he WAS looking at the ship's plotted path before getting stranded), he'd gate to a world ahead of the ship, and greet them upon their next arrival. Then you could introduce the attempted takeover of the ship.
What's different? No aliens and space battles - the two things that killed Star Trek, when they replaced a decent believable story with them.
What else?... oh - a KNOWN TIMELOOP. OMFG. Do you know how rare it is to have a chance like that, and actually know WHEN it's going to happen before it does? Okay, so no organic matter or chemically sensitive stuff can go through... it'd still be a great time to stock up on guns, utensils, minerals, and pretty much anything else they might need a lot of. If they had put a reference to that in the episode right after, it would've been so awesome. I can just picture the gate room filled with guns and stuff, with them congratulating Eli on his good idea.
What else... what else... oh, Eli changed! He no longer has any curiosity about anything, and rather than jumping to the right logical conclusion as any observer or young person would, he jumps to the same conclusions as every other damn person, which is the only conclusion that allows a crappy plot to continue. You're a gamer man. For god's sake, act like one!
Heroes is even worse. There's dozens of moments where the writers actually screwed up and did something they couldn't do, or just forgot some capability was available. Or did the same thing they mentioned happened to another person, but with a completely different result, just because.
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