Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Please stay safe, y'all


Phlyra

Still Fresh
Joined
Jul 25, 2019
Messages
85

"Why? Because a mask with a valve may protect you from some pathogens in the air, but it doesn't protect the people around you from your own breath."


--ADDED:

Astonishing ! I can't believe that's true:


Confirmed by:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/07/politics/axl-rose-steve-mnuchin/index.html (last paragraph)


 

levi

Still fresh, damnit!
Joined
Oct 6, 2008
Messages
12,310
Location
Somewhere off the coast of the EU
Yes, masks with valves are designed to stop the wearer getting the virus. Sure, the valve will open when they breathe out to stop the air getting out of the edges of the mask and pushing it off your face, meaning if you're carrying the virus it'll give it to everyone around you, but breathing in is relatively safe for you since the mask will tend to suck to your face forcing all the air to come through the filter material. Masks like surgical masks are more designed so the surgeon or whoever is wearing it doesn't end up spitting phlegm out in the operating theatre, or wherever they're wearing it. Air comes out of the sides when you breathe out because air is gaseous and therefore finds the route of least pressure, but any liquid you spurt when breathing can't deviate to easily, so ends up soaking into the fabric. They won't stop you breathing in aerosolised virus, but will stop you spitting out aerosol, in case you're infected but don't know it. Also, I tend to find that mine helps people remember social distancing, and keep their distance during this dangerous time.
 

Nintendo

Nintendo Switch
Joined
Oct 8, 2005
Messages
13,153
Location
Melbourne, VICTORIA - AUSTRALIA
Mother's Day now for Australia...

I know Mother's Day doesn't fall on the same day for some countries (in France, I think it's in June?), but is anyone here going to be restricted to seeing your Mother today?
 

λ the β-Redex Reducer

β-Redex Reducing Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2016
Messages
400
but is anyone here going to be restricted to seeing your Mother today?
Not me but I do not celebrate Mother's Day anyway. Mother's Day ruins the surprise of presents by making the timing predictable and it also ruins the message behind doing nice things because it would just be for Mother's Day and not out of own initiative. Having a day to tell people to do nice things for people that they love seems like something that a society of robots would need.
 

PowerGod

Hardcore Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2011
Messages
3,395
Not me but I do not celebrate Mother's Day anyway. Mother's Day ruins the surprise of presents by making the timing predictable
I propose to remove every kind of anniversary... them are all so predictable, ruining all the surprise !!
Them should be substituted with some kind of 2 Monthsversary, so not only you will never know when to celebrate, but also, for most of the time you just don't need to !! :cool:
 
Last edited:

Phlyra

Still Fresh
Joined
Jul 25, 2019
Messages
85
Mother's Day now for Australia...

I know Mother's Day doesn't fall on the same day for some countries (in France, I think it's in June?), but is anyone here going to be restricted to seeing your Mother today?
Yup. I’m in a different country from the rest of my family, who will be celebrating MD together.
 

Linux-SWAT

Hardcore Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2010
Messages
8,514
"South Korea, which is trying to relax physical distancing regulations, on Saturday shut down more than 2,100 clubs and bars in the capital after a new cluster of cases emerged, apparently linked to a single individual who had gone out while infected.
The cases are a reminder of how long and challenging the battle against coronavirus is likely to be even in countries that had initial success in containing it."


skor-05.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_South_Korea
 

Linux-SWAT

Hardcore Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2010
Messages
8,514
Strange graphic.

Here the false lockdown ended Monday morning.
Yesterday and today, there was not much people in the streets of Paris, the vast majority of people stay at home.
After 8 PM, streets are basically empty.
Of course there was a bunch of morons grouping to drink outside in a trendy place near water, but fortunately only a very few.
Many schools stay closed because teachers don't want to commit suicide, and a lot of parents still want to keep themselves and their children alive.
 

ElPoco

Very Active Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2012
Messages
781
Age
35
Location
Paris, France
I had the impression that there were still many people in the streets during the lockdown but the streets were a lot more busy yesterday when I went out for grocery shopping.

And today I'm rediscovering the sound of car horns, and the background noise of trafic. :(
 

PowerGod

Hardcore Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2011
Messages
3,395
Of course there was a bunch of morons grouping to drink outside in a trendy place near water, but fortunately only a very few.
In Italy the Police is constantly giving fines to those people, it is using drones to catch people in beaches and also copters for people aggregating in rooftops, and the situation is pretty discussed...
Many people are complaining that the Police is exaggerating (there are videos with like 3/4 cars and drones to get a single man alone in a beach taking sun), and many fear the raise of a dystopian government, considering the latest addition of an APP to monitor everyone (with a Smartphone, Android or iOS).
But there are also around a lot o people criticizing the ones that are not following the simple rule to stay at home.

@ElPoco : I feel you :(
 

Linux-SWAT

Hardcore Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2010
Messages
8,514
They now are blatantly trying to rewrite history, lying like hell.
The head director of "Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris" says the lack of intensive care beds had no impact on mortality.

Martin Hirsch: le nombre de lits n'a pas été «un facteur qui a pesé sur la mortalité»
«Je ne pense pas que le nombre de lits en réanimation ait été un facteur qui ait pesé sur la mortalité», plaide le directeur général de l'Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris (AP-HP), auditionné au Sénat. «Il y a des données qui sont disponibles», avance-t-il.



Proof that it's a fucking lie:

Paris area is choosing who lives and who dies, March 28.
A Médecins du Monde doctor: "Today, what can be normally done, i.e. get people in ICU in order to save them, cannot be done because we are preserving beds for younger."
 
Last edited:

pyrat

Very Active Member
Joined
May 20, 2016
Messages
162
Whys the majority of cases there down to H1N1, which is a flu virus and not a coronavirus? I'm not sure it's entirely clear to me what this graph is claiming to show.
Because it is a graphic about Flu, not about COVID-19, SARS nor MERS.
The title says "Gripe", which means Flu in Spanish. The Flu usually is seasonal like the graph shows.
That's why it has data on the last weeks of 2018 as well.

If you're asking why FBnil posted a Flu graph in a COVID-19 thread, I don't know. I don't even know why I came to this thread myself...
 

Linux-SWAT

Hardcore Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2010
Messages
8,514
Ebola expert on nearly dying of coronavirus:

He predicts "many people will be left with chronic kidney and heart problems."
Also "I read a scientific study yesterday that concluded you have a 30% chance of dying if you end up in a British hospital with Covid-19. That’s about the same overall mortality rate as for Ebola in 2014 in west Africa.”

 

λ the β-Redex Reducer

β-Redex Reducing Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2016
Messages
400
Many people are complaining that the Police is exaggerating (there are videos with like 3/4 cars and drones to get a single man alone in a beach taking sun), and many fear the raise of a dystopian government, considering the latest addition of an APP to monitor everyone (with a Smartphone, Android or iOS).
I'm definitely in this camp. Most people nowadays are easily scared into submission. And what's worse is that they are also easily scared into trying to submit those who are not as gullible and easily frightened as they themselves are.

The best remedy against COVID-19 is strengthening the lymphatic system through clean diet. There is no need to surrender our freedom. No amount of toilet paper, social distancing, and masks can make up for a body that is being weakened by toxic waste.
 

fusion_power

Advanced Member
Joined
Dec 25, 2005
Messages
13,091
Location
germany
Website
Visit site
They now are blatantly trying to rewrite history, lying like hell.
The head director of "Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris" says the lack of intensive care beds had no impact on mortality.

Martin Hirsch: le nombre de lits n'a pas été «un facteur qui a pesé sur la mortalité»
«Je ne pense pas que le nombre de lits en réanimation ait été un facteur qui ait pesé sur la mortalité», plaide le directeur général de l'Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris (AP-HP), auditionné au Sénat. «Il y a des données qui sont disponibles», avance-t-il.



Proof that it's a fucking lie:

Paris area is choosing who lives and who dies, March 28.
A Médecins du Monde doctor: "Today, what can be normally done, i.e. get people in ICU in order to save them, cannot be done because we are preserving beds for younger."
Comparing to what's going on in other countries (USA for instance) that stuff even sound almost calm and moderate. Be happy that you don't have Trump or Bolsonaro as your president. ;)
 

TeDaDeS

Very Active Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2004
Messages
983
Location
The Netherlands
Website
Visit site
Comparing to what's going on in other countries (USA for instance) that stuff even sound almost calm and moderate. Be happy that you don't have Trump or Bolsonaro as your president. ;)
While true it's no reason to lower standards.

It's the only thing they could do, the US market was asking for it.
Problem is that banks rely on the FED to buy up stock, print more cash and drop rates.
It makes the stocks look nice and calms the market a bit, and they'll probably continue into negative rates to try to fix things.
The FED (US) is almost hitting 7 trillion of assets already, it's (only?) a good time for banks nowadays.
 
Top