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Jeff Benzos ?@netcat I saw a study that said benzos increase COVID-19 mortality.
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When the refusal to at least help respect others’ right to not be infected by you by wearing a mask goes way too far:
www.buzzfeednews.com
The Other Victims Of The Pandemic: Workers Killed In Fights Over Masks
Essential workers have borne the brunt of a pandemic poisoned by politics. BuzzFeed News found at least four frontline employees who died in fights over masks. Here are their stories.
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COVID-19: Worst pandemic, or best drug? We report, you decide.
and Alzheimer's. I'm not a fan.@netcat I saw a study that said benzos increase COVID-19 mortality.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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It is not.
Returning a shopping trolley is obviously the right thing to do. People know that without needing someone else to tell them because it is obvious that having a bunch of unreturned trolleys littering around is annoying. Thus is tests for your ability to self-govern because it tests if you would do the right thing without anyone needing to tell you to do it.
Wearing a mask is not anyhing like that. It is not obvious whether it is beneficial; people who think it is think so because they have been repeatedly told so by authority. They do not wear their mask because of their own judgement on the matter, they wear their mask because others decided for them that they ought to do it and kept repeating that decision to them. Thus they are not governing themselves, they are being governed by someone else. Mask wearing is therefore not an indication that you can self-govern, it is an indication that you can be easily governed by someone else.
Mask wearing is the new toilet paper hoarding test. Toilet paper hoarders hoarded toilet paper during the toilet paper hoarding hooplah a few months back because the news indicated that they ought to do so, not because of their own judgement. Thus anyone hoarding toilet paper proved that he was easy for other people to govern.
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No responsible news service ever told people to hoard toilet paper. They did report that others were doing it, which I guess could be construed as an instruction that you should get some yourself if you can.
In the UK they're dropping the mask mandate from Monday, so it then becomes more of a personal choice. Although plenty of places are saying you won't get entry without one.
In the UK they're dropping the mask mandate from Monday, so it then becomes more of a personal choice. Although plenty of places are saying you won't get entry without one.
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Ah yes because even before having an engineering degree, I “needed” to be “told by authority” why having a HEPA filter (with pre-filter) in the vacuum cleaner or air con system was a good idea, or why miners and carpenters and spray painters should wear masks with specific protection ratings, or why surgeons should wear masks during surgery, or why exposure duration means that the masks/filters have to be changed with a particular frequency, or why adventurers use Lifestraws etc. for filtering unclean water into something the body can accept, or why smoking is bad for you, or why there is such an increase in respiratory disease following volcanic eruptions, or why so many people died in 1952 from the Great Smog of London, or why it’s not a good idea to sit in your sealed garage with the car engine running.
It’s not because of “authority”; it’s physics and biochemistry.
It’s not because of “authority”; it’s physics and biochemistry.
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λ the β-Redex Reducer
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As I said, they encouraged it. They were fearmongering with CoViD-19, greatly overestating how dangerous it is, and people believed it and responded accordingly.
Your analogies break down on the fact that in the case of masks the "authority" is just the news which lacks evidence and instead convinces people through repetition, not through evidence. If people hear something frequently enough then instinctively they will believe it and think that it is a big deal. This is why people fear CoViD-19 and why they keep repeating it on the news. Toilet paper hoarding and mask wearing is not based on physics and biology, it is based on the propaganda that gets repeated multiple times every day on the news.
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Ah there’s no evidence? What about the peer-reviewed live test subject studies carried out by Japanese (and other) universities? The modelling? The decades of epidemiologists, biochemists and other scientists coming to understand how respiratory (the clue’s in the name FFS!) virii are transmitted?
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Many other protest marchs in France against the dictatorship:
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Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitaires
Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitaires
Coronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les rues
Coronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les rues
Avignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaire
Avignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaire
Vidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
Vidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
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It's funny how cures tested, validated and promoted by doctors in hospitals end up in mainstream medias (remember the fake Lancet study):
Influential Ivermectin Study Accused of 'Totally Faked' Data - Slashdot
"The efficacy of a drug being promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19 is in serious doubt," reports the Guardian, "after a major study suggesting the treatment is effective against the virus was withdrawn due to 'ethical concerns'." The preprint study on the efficacy and...
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It's weird that the fenomenon of toiletpaper hoarding was also in Netherlands, so I suspect, all over the world. I find this fascinating how with a little bit of social engineering you can make the masses do something.
So you have news about a possible pandemic. you don't know how bad it is going to be. People will panic, so you steer them to hoard useless toilet paper; satisfying their need to hoard. While the important stuff, food, medicines, stays on the shelves, available to anyone who needs it. brilliant.
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Protesting for the rest of Europe. The moment a bad law is being discussed for Europe, it's always the French that stand up massively for their human rights. It's a cultural thing.Many other protest marchs in France against the dictatorship:
Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitaires
Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitairesCoronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les rues
Coronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les ruesAvignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaire
Avignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaireVidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
Vidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
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People started hording toilet paper because they were scared other people depleting stock. It was not direct fear of covid (which may or may not be real) but of other people reacting to the news (which was real - it was broadcast). So it's a legitimate fear (itchy bums).
It is not entirely unimaginable that the propaganda machine orchestrated the toilet paper crunch. After all, the idea of a toiletpaperless world is one of the most horrifying imaginable, esp for clean-freaks like us.
It is not entirely unimaginable that the propaganda machine orchestrated the toilet paper crunch. After all, the idea of a toiletpaperless world is one of the most horrifying imaginable, esp for clean-freaks like us.
We meet under the bridge at 1600 to discuss this existential matter. I bring the Beaujolais.Many other protest marchs in France against the dictatorship:
Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitaires
Coronavirus : près de 114 000 manifestants en France contre les mesures sanitairesCoronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les rues
Coronavirus : contre la vaccination et la "dictature sanitaire", des dizaines de milliers de personnes dans les ruesAvignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaire
Avignon : nouvelle manifestation contre le pass sanitaireVidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
Vidéo - Marseille : les manifestants anti pass sanitaire désormais réunis devant la mairie
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'Freedom Cafe' Tweet Perfectly Challenges People Who Won't Wear Masks
Welcome to the Freedom Cafe where rules do not apply.
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Decades of epidemiology about a virus that exists no longer than 1.5 years?
That is very controversial. However, only one side gets screen time on the MSM and is thus heavily over-represented in the minds of the general public. In the Netherlands we have a great example of the censorship, the political party of Viruswaarheid (which was co-founded by a scientist in a relevant field) had their name removed on the voting list that people received in the mail. There was a huge blank where their name ought to be. No big surprise to me, because I know that voting is likely corrupt anyway, but I was still a little surprised about how up-front they were about it. Anyway, that is what happens to those scientists, they get censored out.
Let me stop you right there and let's do a thought experiment.
Put on a t-shirt, and I will take your arm, and smear cow dung on it, like I was a mom putting on sunscreen on her child.
Then, I will give you a roll of toilet paper to clean your arm. You can't use water, or soap, just toilet paper. Then tell me if the arm still reeks if you smell it (it will).
Now, tell me again you are a "clean-freak" and that you, at least, got a japanese style toilet that cleans you with water. Because if you don't... well
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