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I don't know anything specific as I did not visit him in person during the last couple of months (Corona and so much stuff to do personally) but we are really close.
Closer than "Christmas this year" :p.
i initially read this as "ED and I are really close", and "Closer than Christmas" as you do more things together than just opening Christmas presents. <3

of course, you build Pyras together, what closer bond could people have?
 

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Nice, seems like you used bucket filling with very low opacity which is more realistic.
No, If you do that you lose the texture.

I tuned the tone of the logo to match rose gold or sort of. Then I applied a light filter on the left to get a sort of glare/metallic look.

I would have done it in blender to get it realistic, but the .blend I found had a different logo.

Now that I take a second look at it, it reminds me of rose gold dress watches :D :


I may have discovered pyra's gentleman variation after all...
 

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Because Pyra is the greatest country device in the world!
No doubt. It is the dream device I wanted even before it existed.

No, If you do that you lose the texture.
Not if you set Opacity in Tool Options to make it transparent, it works well with not too much opacity especially, I managed to get the same result as you using it.
Now that I take a second look at it, it reminds me of rose gold dress watches :D
I can see that.

Bucket fill doesn't work IME because the colour is not a flat patch, it has variance in it. Sometimes it just matches a small patch, and sometimes it covers the entire area but without some inclusions.
You have to set the Threshold in Tool Options between 0 and 255. At 255 I think everything in the selected area is filled.

I prefer your dark grey than the original. But...

Here are the issues I have with the current version:
1. There is too much complexity which make it not classy and professional but rather toyish
a.the case is physically complex​
b. the logo​
b1. logo shape is complex,​
b2. the plate add complexity​
b3. there is lot of color: the logo color, the plate color and the case color​
b4. logo and plate colors contrast a lot with the lid​
2. The complexity isn't harmonious (in that regard the grey case is better)
a. color of the plate and logo contrast with the case which make them too visible​
b. colors highlights the wrong parts. There is a big contrast between the lid and the plate while there is little contrast between logo and plate. This result in the plate outshining the logo by far and the logo becoming invisible​
c. the plate which outshine everything is not harmoniously proportioned with the lid which makes it even more visible and annoying​
c1. the plate is too big for the lid​
c2. the plate shape doesn't suits the lid shape there is no harmony between them, rectangular shape and round corners aren't enough​

I prefer you version than the original because it resolve points 1b4, 2a and 2b but it also increase point 1b3 because colors are more distinct. And it doesn't resolve points 1b3 and 2a which are resolved by having the plate black.
That is why I prefer to have the same color as the lid or almost, but I'd rather not see the plate disappear completely because even the logo isn't perfectly matched with the lid. So an almost invisible plate which you can see when you are close or when the light hit the lid the right way is ideal for me, that could be done with a texture or because plain black is not exactly like the case.
 
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Here are the issues I have with the current version:
1. There is too much complexity which make it not classy and professional but rather toyish
a.the case is physically complex​
Some of us prefer functionality over appearance. All of those holes and buttons do something useful.
b. the logo​
b1. logo shape is complex,​
Guess you can blame us for that one. Most of the prototype designs submitted features flames in some form or other, so we ended up with this one that says d.p. (for Dragonbox Pyra)
b2. the plate add complexity​
I can't think of a simpler way to attach a transparent window to an entirely opaque case.
b3. there is lot of color: the logo color, the plate color and the case color​
b4. logo and plate colors contrast a lot with the lid​
2. The complexity isn't harmonious (in that regard the grey case is better)
a. color of the plate and logo contrast with the case which make them too visible​
b. colors highlights the wrong parts. There is a big contrast between the lid and the plate while there is little contrast between logo and plate. This result in the plate outshining the logo by far and the logo becoming invisible​
At least when it's powered up, the logo part itself will be filled with blinkenlights.
c. the plate which outshine everything is not harmoniously proportioned with the lid which makes it even more visible and annoying​
c1. the plate is too big for the lid​
c2. the plate shape doesn't suits the lid shape there is no harmony between them, rectangular shape and round corners aren't enough​
Why not? The case itself is a rectangular prism with rounded vertices.
I prefer you version than the original because it resolve points 1b4, 2a and 2b but it also increase point 1b3 because colors are more distinct. And it doesn't resolve points 1b3 and 2a which are resolved by having the plate black.
That is why I prefer to have the same color as the lid or almost, but I'd rather not see the plate disappear completely because even the logo isn't perfectly matched with the lid. So an almost invisible plate which you can see when you are close or when the light hit the lid the right way is ideal for me, that could be done with a texture or because plain black is not exactly like the case.
No doubt. It is the dream device I wanted even before it existed.
You certainly have an interesting way of showing it.
 

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Some of us prefer functionality over appearance. All of those holes and buttons do something useful.
And?

Guess you can blame us for that one. Most of the prototype designs submitted features flames in some form or other, so we ended up with this one that says d.p. (for Dragonbox Pyra)
I'm not trying to blame someone but if I had to blame someone that would be me. I was the one who made the poll shift towards dp when someone finally submitted a dp version which was very good. I was an heavy advocate of the angular flame, then the genius version of dp was submitted and I switched to being an heavy advocate of the dp, while the angular flame was winning. I think I contributed a lot to dp winning.
The genius dp logo, which is the current logo, had to be simplified for the lid because otherwise some plastic part would have been too thin.

I can't think of a simpler way to attach a transparent window to an entirely opaque case.
I suggest you think harder because there wasn't a logo plate when the idea of the logo came first, the plate was added to prevent light bleeding through the plastic or/and because ED wanted to make it modable or/and because of the thin parts which would have been hard to mold. ED wasn't very clear about the reason.

Why not? The case itself is a rectangular prism with rounded vertices.
Some things have no words for.

You certainly have an interesting way of showing it.
I'm not showing it. Are you showing it?

My previous post is a breakdown of my feelings about the design. I don't expect people to fully understand it, I thought maybe you'd understand some of it. I had to do the breakdown because what I'm trying to convey to explain my color choice is complex.

I'm very proud of my breakdown, matter of fact I'm so proud of it that I have to quote it.
Here are the issues I have with the current version:
1. There is too much complexity which make it not classy and professional but rather toyish
a.the case is physically complex​
b. the logo​
b1. logo shape is complex,​
b2. the plate add complexity​
b3. there is lot of color: the logo color, the plate color and the case color​
b4. logo and plate colors contrast a lot with the lid​
2. The complexity isn't harmonious (in that regard the grey case is better)
a. color of the plate and logo contrast with the case which make them too visible​
b. colors highlights the wrong parts. There is a big contrast between the lid and the plate while there is little contrast between logo and plate. This result in the plate outshining the logo by far and the logo becoming invisible​
c. the plate which outshine everything is not harmoniously proportioned with the lid which makes it even more visible and annoying​
c1. the plate is too big for the lid​
c2. the plate shape doesn't suits the lid shape there is no harmony between them, rectangular shape and round corners aren't enough​
 
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@Kiga, Well I agree with a lot of issues with the logo. But at this point why bother getting worked up over it, we're too late in the game to change anything without serious delays that I can tell you most of us here don't want.
 

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@Kiga, Well I agree with a lot of issues with the logo. But at this point why bother getting worked up over it, we're too late in the game to change anything without serious delays that I can tell you most of us here don't want.
Actually I misread a post by @Askarus , I thought he said that it wouldn't cause delay for now so I was convinced that it wouldn't cause delay. I just realised because I wanted to quote him. If it cause delay I won't argue.

Now I feel like I lost my job.
 

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My previous post is a breakdown of my feelings about the design. I don't expect people to fully understand it, I thought maybe you'd understand some of it. I had to do the breakdown because what I'm trying to convey to explain my color choice is complex.
I either agree with or can see your perspective on all those parts of your post that I quoted that I didn't argue against but quoted bare. Perhaps it would be better if I had stated that, but I felt that post was long enough as is. Mea culpa then.
 

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Bit late to the party, but I like both colours. Although if pushed I would edge towards the dark chrome. The finish/coating on both is also mighty fine!

With respect to the lid logo; quite frankly as long as there's no apple involved, I'm happy ;)

Now release the blimmin' things and let's have some fun before the Earth is destroyed!!
 
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