Are You Getting An Odroid?
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SNESFAN
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yesrsuryase said:
I have one, and not *all* apps work with it currently, but the VAST majority do. Problem is currently (and I'm personally working on it) is getting the android market working on the vanillia android they are running. Without it is somewhat of a pain finding and installing apps for it when it's not in the supplied market app (slideME). The android market is currently being a shit... but I'm makeing alot of headway. Hopefully by this weekend I'll have it up and running. *note* it doesn't come with the official android market, this is just a port from another phone running the same version of android.
I've played some roms with snesoid (best, IMO, snes emulator for android) and it is fully playable with auto throttle and max frame skip of 3 on all the roms I tested. Setting it to 0 frameskip is very laggy, 1 is alright with sound disabled, 2 is almost perfect with sound and transparency enabled, 3 is damn near perfect except for the moments when it's cathing up and you notice the frameskip with everything enabled and full screen stretch. It compares well to the speed of the (2008) psp snes emulators I used to play on. *note* this is with their buggy openGL, it is also being worked on, expect improvements to performance after it is worked out
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SNESFAN
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the official android market is propritary app from google, along with youtube, gmail, google talk, and some others. If you are a manufacturer of an official android device, you need to pay and/or get consent to use their software officially from google. If you ever see the "with google" on a phone, that is why. Google has to bless off on your device, making sure they are the default search provider, meets their security standards, they give you the rights to have it, and by doing so brand it with their advertising. It's win/win I don't know if they have to pay for it or not(I hear rumors of NDA's after this process starts, minor manufacturers "disappearing" from community boards, then magically they get it sorted out), but google gets theirs back in the long run, that's for sure. The goods definitely outweigh the bads. Also lots of countries are officially unsupported by the official android market. Mainly china atm, with others, to include korea where this comes from I believe.rsuryase said:
I'm working on getting the market to work little by little, and as I'm completely certain it's possible, I can't quite track down why it's unable to connect. Possibly the location the phone "thinks" it's still in korea, (pulling up google maps put me some location in that general area of the world till it tracked me down and corrected it's self) and after talking to some of the big devs in the android scene, have told me it's tied to google talk, "if you get google talk to work, you will get the market to work" So... still working on this. Any outside help is appreciated. Someone also mentioned using logcat to track down the reason behind the force close of google talk, I guess I'll look into how to set that up.
You can install via 3 methods. 1) Any 3rd party market app, reaches out to the net, downloads and installs. There's actually a bunch out there, one comes pre-installed. 2) install via sd card, the pre-installed market app comes with the ability to install any .apk (android file format for installables similiar to .zip) 3)install over usb via adb bridge. If you plan on tinkering with android, you will become very familiar with adb commands, one allows you to install and/or run any program via a command line in windows/linux with the android sdk.
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SNESFAN
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It's got alot of apps, but not all of them, and depends on what you're looking for, the variety is definitely not therersuryase said:
here's what's in the official
http://www.androlib.com/
here's some 3rd party markets
http://slideme.org/applications
http://www.handango.com/catalog/SoftwareCatalog.jsp?storeId=2218&deviceId=2297&platformId=80&categoryId=0
http://androidplayground.net/web/catalog
there are lots of others, but these are 3 of them. As you can see it's less selection, thus why I'm trying to get the official one.
this is the list of countries the official market supports currently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Market#Availability_for_users
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SNESFAN
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Can't make phone calls, no trackball, and depending no keyboard. I think that and the google stuff we already talked about is about it.rsuryase said:
But you have to look at what you get for the price. Hardware wise, it's the same processor and stuff as the samsung moment I think with more ram, bigger screen. sprint sells the moment for $479 off contract... so you give some, you get some... it's not perfect, but it's very reasonable at $200
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According to wikipedia, The Odroid is targeted to Android developers who need a device to develop applications without the contract and data plan sold with many android devices currently on the market.
I'm a consumer so I guess I'm not their target audience. I don't think they'll sell much if developers are their main audience.
I doubt I can sell it off on ebay in case I'm not satisfied with it.
Does the app Hello IM work with Odroid virtual keyboard? How is the web browsing experience on the Odroid? Can you multitask? Like talk on AIM and surf the internet? Can you watch flash videos?
I'm a consumer so I guess I'm not their target audience. I don't think they'll sell much if developers are their main audience.
I doubt I can sell it off on ebay in case I'm not satisfied with it.
Does the app Hello IM work with Odroid virtual keyboard? How is the web browsing experience on the Odroid? Can you multitask? Like talk on AIM and surf the internet? Can you watch flash videos?
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yea it's a niche product, I'm not a developer, I'm more of a hacker than anything, that's why I wanted it, if you just want it for end user stuff... yea might be better getting something elsersuryase said:
I'll check it out and report back
web browsing is great for a device that small and no keyboard, dpad works pretty good for pageing up and down I'm finding. Multitask is the same with any android, longhold menu to re-open any app that isn't closed in the backround. You can return to homescreen by pressing home, jump into any running app. There's a program called TaskOS that makes it more graphically friendly to jump from app to app if that's your thing. And if you use one of the above methods you can aim, then go back to surfing no problem. Also google voice if you have it for SMS. I can elaborate on this part more if you want.
flash isn't supported untill android has an official flash port from adobe, it was susposed to be out by the end of the year and wasn't, but "comming soon" via official sources. Flash lite works on some android phones and would require a port of htc's framework as well (not impossible) and youtube that uses a version of flash in it works on android but I haven't been able to get it to work but people I've talked to say they can watch youtube videos on their Odroid's via the file install I supplied them with.
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