- Apr 27, 2012
Im usually not that type of guy ... but ... ROFL
[Joke] So if you don't get your case after you order and you complain, you may get an arrow instead [/Joke]
just not in the knee please.. not again.... lol[Joke] So if you don't get your case after you order and you complain, you may get an arrow instead [/Joke]
Just wait until the first real pics of the case appear if you are unsure. I'm sure once the Alu case is done in real and shown in all of it's glory, it will basicly sell itself.IDV i know it is difficult but... there's no possibility to do a prototype case? I know it's hard as hell but for me is also hard to pay 100€+ for a item
Yes, that was my final option and i'm afraid i have to do this. I hope i can get a Pandora in some months .Just wait until the first real pics of the case appear if you are unsure. I'm sure once the Alu case is done in real and shown in all of it's glory, it will basicly sell itself.IDV i know it is difficult but... there's no possibility to do a prototype case? I know it's hard as hell but for me is also hard to pay 100€+ for a item
Ah! Thanks for the detailed explanations! I do applaud IDV and ED for this awesome initiative, and that's why I've order 2 of them to support the this project as I've always wanted to have an aluminum case for my pandora since I've own it.Don't forget, if a business makes something at cost (or in this case, a prototype for nothing), all the time spent on that "freebie" is dead time - it can't be used to make money on something else.
Taking a drawing, breaking the finished product into a series of operations, writing the programs for each operation, designing stable machine setups to hold the component securely and safely for each operation (without damaging previously machined surfaces), building the individual setups, and then proving the individual programs is a fairly long process that only makes sense when you do it for a "larger" order, or when there is the potential to make money. A prototype in this situation just doesn't make sense - particularly when you consider all the time required to produce the one off may end up being thrown away completley - which wouldn't be good. And there is always a cost, even if the programmer/setter/operator gives their time for nothing. The mill depreciates in value every day it is on the shop floor, needs electricity to power it, and coolant for the tools. Then there are the cutters and drills - which all have to be accounted for. Even if you used regrinds (don't know if these are still used but they were in my day) to prove the concpet, they still cost.
I understand how some people consider it a leap of faith to order in this manner, but it is simply not right to expect IDV to make a protoype. Even if a prototype was made, there is no guarantee that it will be the catalyst to ensure the MoQ is hit. I think we should applaud IDV for giving us this opportunity, and try and find a way to get those order numbers up. And yes, I've ponied up - and am keeping my fingers crossed. My experience with machine operators (and yes, I used to do protoype CNC mill work) is that they care enough to make a good product - I know I would have taken it very personally if an inspector had sidled up to me and announced that my last job had just been scrapped by the client because 1 dimension was .001" out of tolerance, perhaps because I had used an incremental bed movement instead of an absolute movement.
ED is on it. Check the other thread and https://www.dragonbox.de/en/pandora/192-pandora-aluminium-case-preorder.htmlWe could produce a rendering of the case files in jet black and mouse gray alu.
NO. the dimensions, and among other things, are different for pandora and pyra...I don't expect the answer to the following question to be yes, but I thought I'd ask it anyway...
Is it possible that the case could be reused for the Pyra? In other words, it would be cool if I could buy one now for my Pandora, and then when the Pyra comes out, transfer it? I know that the front panel (keyboard) will be different, but maybe the panel could be (is already?) a separate part that could be changed?