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[triton]

lol, thats hilarious, instead of the guy you should have someone on "the pot" with a gp2x instead of a newspaper ya know

 

[Esn]

lol at thats hilarious at instead of the guy you should have someone on "the pot" with a gp2x instead of a newspaper ya know

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Well, I think the guy's face expression conveys everything I want to say, really.

 

[aQwaBlaz3]

ya know this wont catch on......no regular person is going to know what Linux or Open Source or Homebrew means...Hell, to them Homebrew might mean beer or something. It just aisnt going to work.

 

[craigix]

GP2X ads hit the uk magazines at the end of november.

 

[lucoxade]

Oooh, where are you advertising? I'l look out for it. I noticed that lik-sang have got google adwords pushing the gp2x.

Have the clocks gone back yet?

 

[OCA|]

ya know this wont catch on......no regular person is going to know what Linux or Open Source or Homebrew means...Hell, to them Homebrew might mean beer or something. It just aisnt going to work.

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I don't thing we need "regular" people just yet - I know plenty of people who know what homebrew is, have modded the Quake source code, and play games on emulators regularly who don't know what the GP2x is. If I hadn't been browsing Slashdot the day they ran an artical about it, I wouldn't have. Yet, I'm pretty much the "end-user" target audiance the GP2x appeals to (Big into emulation and classic PC games that have gone open source, all my DVDs are encoded to Divx already, my entire music library is stored as AAC, MP3, OGG, and Flac formats so I can always use the best format for a given situation, etc).

At one point I had heard of the GP32. But at that time, all I saw was "a Korean handheld" (read: "difficult to get in the US"), uses SMC memory (I hate SMC), and I was sufficiently obsessed with something else at the time and never persued it.

Finally, as for the "mainstream" market - it's going to be hard to land that. Emulation is great, but to someone who doesn't know where to look, trying to find the files needed to play can be difficult. For obvious legal reasons, messageboard admins delete posts asking where to find those files, and users are often banned for it. Yet, even if someone owns the original game in cartridge format, they still need to go after the file for it, unless they want to spend the money on equipment to dump the game (which costs money and, whether its true or not, sounds like it's very difficult) The emulation scene, when viewed from the outside, appears hostile and even somewhat paranoid. And old PC games are great - but good luck finding DooM in a store. Google for "Download DooM" and you'll find dozens and dozens of links to the shareware version, and nobody is goinig to plunk down $200 for a handheld to play shareware versions of DooM and Duke Nukem. And again, for the "mainstream" market, web searches begin and end with Google. Video and MP3? Well, for music, $10-20 more gets you an iPod Nano with 2 gigs of memory. No offense, but from the videos I've seen, the audio player's interface on the GP2x isn't going to outshine an iPod any time soon. And by the time you factor in the cost of a 1-2 gig SD card, the gp2x is as expensive as hard drive based media players by Creative and iRiver with 20-40 gig drives.

Bottom line - IMO, the GP2x is not for the mainstream market. Closest thing to mainstream it'll reach is a mainstream person with a friend who happens to be in the emulation scene to help him get started. Advertisements targeted towards emulation and/or open-source enthusiasts are just what this needs. There's plenty of room to grow right here.

-OCA|

 

[K0K0NUT_h3lmut]

ya know this wont catch on......no regular person is going to know what Linux or Open Source or Homebrew means...Hell, to them Homebrew might mean beer or something. It just aisnt going to work.

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I don't thing we need "regular" people just yet - I know plenty of people who know what homebrew is, have modded the Quake source code, and play games on emulators regularly who don't know what the GP2x is. If I hadn't been browsing Slashdot the day they ran an artical about it, I wouldn't have. Yet, I'm pretty much the "end-user" target audiance the GP2x appeals to (Big into emulation and classic PC games that have gone open source, all my DVDs are encoded to Divx already, my entire music library is stored as AAC, MP3, OGG, and Flac formats so I can always use the best format for a given situation, etc).

At one point I had heard of the GP32. But at that time, all I saw was "a Korean handheld" (read: "difficult to get in the US"), uses SMC memory (I hate SMC), and I was sufficiently obsessed with something else at the time and never persued it.

Finally, as for the "mainstream" market - it's going to be hard to land that. Emulation is great, but to someone who doesn't know where to look, trying to find the files needed to play can be difficult. For obvious legal reasons, messageboard admins delete posts asking where to find those files, and users are often banned for it. Yet, even if someone owns the original game in cartridge format, they still need to go after the file for it, unless they want to spend the money on equipment to dump the game (which costs money and, whether its true or not, sounds like it's very difficult) The emulation scene, when viewed from the outside, appears hostile and even somewhat paranoid. And old PC games are great - but good luck finding DooM in a store. Google for "Download DooM" and you'll find dozens and dozens of links to the shareware version, and nobody is goinig to plunk down $200 for a handheld to play shareware versions of DooM and Duke Nukem. And again, for the "mainstream" market, web searches begin and end with Google. Video and MP3? Well, for music, $10-20 more gets you an iPod Nano with 2 gigs of memory. No offense, but from the videos I've seen, the audio player's interface on the GP2x isn't going to outshine an iPod any time soon. And by the time you factor in the cost of a 1-2 gig SD card, the gp2x is as expensive as hard drive based media players by Creative and iRiver with 20-40 gig drives.

Bottom line - IMO, the GP2x is not for the mainstream market. Closest thing to mainstream it'll reach is a mainstream person with a friend who happens to be in the emulation scene to help him get started. Advertisements targeted towards emulation and/or open-source enthusiasts are just what this needs. There's plenty of room to grow right here.

-OCA|

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Good post. You're right there's still plenty of people who would love the GP2X, but that doesn't mean that the GP2X can't introduce someone to Linux, homebrew, and "the scene" as a whole. I still think the best way to do this is to invoke a lot of curiosity with good keywords, like MP3 and "video" and "games" "retro"(and what retro means) and some good picyures to go along with that, with a website... gp32x.de... as the next step.

We should MAINLY appeal to those that would already understand the GP2X... slashdotters, Linux-users, gadget freaks, etc. And those that are on the verge between a gameboy advance or a GP2X(obviously they should pick a GP2X ) should not be forsaken... but they most likely wouldn't even be as useful as "the linux geeks" once they get here. Not that that's all that's important...

 

[deadlychicken22]

the audio player's interface on the GP2x isn't going to outshine an iPod any time soon

Well, maybe not right away, but someone will most likely make a mp3/ogg/[other formats] player that has as many features as an ipod.

 

[whiskthecat]

ARrrrrrrrrrr. I hate ipods. I mean people think that an ipod is the only thing in the world that can play music without cd's. There are many decent mp3 players that can do the same thing as an ipod for cheaper. For example my tech challenged friend wants an ipod and i try to tell him to get a lyra or something cheaper but he just wont listen because somehow apple has put the idea into people that an ipod is your only option.

(I also forgot that i just hate all apple products) :rolleyes:

 

[Prothall]

Absolutely right, Whisk, as I learned. Which is why I am now happily listening to a Zen Micro, which I call a Digital Audio Player and receive blank stares regarding until someone realizes and says "Oh, it's like an iPod!" What gets me is that so many conscious of many competitors still think the iPod is the most stylish... silly.

Anyway, back to main topic - yes, odds of pulling in the tech oblivious are minimal. We can't expect the GP2X to take off with people who are still using Internet Explorer. Once they hear "Korean" and "no commercial games to speak of" their eyes will glaze over and they're a lost cause. We must target those who see the attraction of portable emulation, video watching, and open source game playing... Honestly, they are the only ones who will be drawn to the system, even though it has a great deal to offer anyone willing to put the least amount of time into it.

The problem is, not many in the consumer marketplace will be willing to do that.

 

[deadlychicken22]

I said ipod because its something just about everyone can relate too, not because I think its the best portable mp3 player.

 

[OrR]

Let's revive this topic, too... I'll try to announce a prize and deadline early next year.