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Man, I've been on D3 for years, and this is the first I've heard about arterial calcification. Now I have something new to worry about.
No worries, K2 (MK-7*) is produced by gut bacteria and in food items themselves also. But if you add additional D3 to your diet you usually up your K2 also. (*menaquinones)
Example food sources of K2 (MK-7): Natto (Japanese dish), Sauerkraut, Kefir, yoghurt, hard cheeses, Edam cheese, curd cheese and cheddar cheese. (So not easy for vegans)

Thats over 400.000IE, you where reading the wrong number somewhere, Thats the Dose for an entire year. :D
1mg is 40.000IE.
My doctor set me on 20.000IE daily a while back, apparently the lack oft it made me batshit crazy. Now i am on around 1000 per day to just hold the levels, i need to check my levels again, but with all the covid shit its not so easy to get blood tests anymore.
Anyway to the vitamin K thing: Its essential to get that when on D, BUT its always good to get that because its one of the vitamins that directly control how fast you age. And you cant overdose it so the logical conclusion is to always get a ton of that.
But the thing is there are not really any useful pills for that on the marked, the doses that are in some pills is just very very tiny and not worth the effort to take. If you want K, go eat some spinach, K is essentially the green of leaves and a spoonful of spinach contains the same amount as a typical pill.
In that sense: eat you daily greens!
As far as I know you need K2 for vitamin-D3, the leafy diet is aimed at K1. Obliviously K1, and other vitamins are important to.

Yeah, I take 12.5mg vitamin D daily during the winter months. As far as I recall vitamin K is only used in case you overdose on warfarin.
I guess that's 12.5mcg, that's 500IU (International Unit).
 
This k1 vs k2 matter isnt exactly clear yet. If one follows a few links you end up with a lot of studies contradicting each other.
The official health department policy is to not differentiate between the two and assume that booth forms act more or less the same.
To confuse stuff there are sub forms, eg the one produced in your colon is a long chained one, that cant be absorbed in that part of the colon, so studies that claim humans can produce it themself are sure right but its totally pointless as we just shit that out.
Long chained, thats the one also in natto, apparently acts totally different than short chained one. It is unclear to me what these studies refer to. Like if the whole science is based on some chinks trying to prove how healthy natto is and get the result its good and then say youre french and think you can get the same by eating a ton of goose liver which apparently is full of K2 the result is questionable as its simply not the same K2 variant.
For more confusion there is different info in each circle of language. If you switch languages on wikipedia for example the page suddenly says the opposite or changes scientifically exact numbers by several digits.
On this matter matching the topic: open the page on Kale then switch through all languages and see how much vitamin K is in 100gr, the result varies wildly between 300 and 900μg. (Bonus points for finding the highs and lows) This works for others dishes too, spinach has for example the opposite result.

It simply is too early to conclude anything here, it is most likely healthy to take _any_ form of K, but you cant say more.
I even found an entry from last year saying that the study from 2004 which said it it keeps your blood vessels clear has been busted.
I guess that's 12.5mcg, that's 500IU (International Unit).
Or its the amount of Colecalciverol, the base substance, that is 12500IE then. Some ppl seem to take such doses, they are sold in stores in that sizes. Id be afraid to overdose that tho, thats rather something you take once a week.
Isnt it funny that the _international unit_ suffix is written different in every language?
 
(I haven't checked your stat) [ on hospital beds occupied by the covid infected ]
Yeah my anti-vax mate showed a chart the other day and i was skeptical. But the number of beds seems to be ~160k and hosp_patients in my data is around 8k. Ballpark figure checks out.
There's also the cost that any nurse that tests positive for covid-19 has to self isolate for a number of days
Just like any industry. I'm now thinking the symptomless isolation period of 7/10 days is bit harsh. Maybe that's the real problem? Why not let people decide if they are fit to go to work like with most other sicknesses.

And maybe a tree-falling-in-the-woods view is better. If you don't feel like a covid victim then you're not.
made me batshit crazy
Noted.
not getting if you're being direct or ironical
Sorry I mix in jokes because I'm insecure (I guess). It's seriously undermined my credibility over the years, impacted my career, ruined friendships, etc.
I don't know if your data is right
My only source until very recently has been https://covid.ourworldindata.org/data/owid-covid-data.csv . And i just considered deaths initially, now cases (as indicative), hospitalizations since yesterday.

Yesterday I looked at https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales for the first time. Starting to digest it.

At the minute this seems like a poignant depiction of covid severity:

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hosp_patients up since yesterday!

If you mean death counts for all causes I haven't looked. Once you die of COVID-19 you don't get to die of anything else.
I don't disagree. Here's some more data to ponder:

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Are we eager to attribute deaths to covid?
Can one's death "involve" a combination of all three? I assume yes. Co-mingled figures ffs.

I find it strange. I don't know if they play somehow with the bed availability or what. I'm not finding this data for other places right now.
I am surprised too. See my comment to levi.
Well, yes. Don't take me seriously now
Sometimes the only sane thing to do is joke.
once humans enter realms of very complex systems with easier to change and replicate information (be it software or RNA), they become less acountable, faster, richer from legal monopolies and less strict, but other humans become more dependent on it... Agile medicine ? Propietary genomes ?
We definitely excel at creating complex to the point of incomprehensible systems.
There are hospitalizations and deaths of young people too
Yes but not worth losing sleep over:

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Imo tik-tok poses a greater risk for the (non-obese) young

enjoy your protection from severe COVID-19
Which comes mainly from not being obese, which I work on constantly.
 
Thats over 400.000IE, you where reading the wrong number somewhere, Thats the Dose for an entire year. :D
1mg is 40.000IE.
Good spot. I was out by a factor of 10**3. I should have written 12.5µg but I don't have a key for µ so that's harder to type. Doesn't excuse me being entirely wrong though.
 
Just like any industry. I'm now thinking the symptomless isolation period of 7/10 days is bit harsh. Maybe that's the real problem? Why not let people decide if they are fit to go to work like with most other sicknesses.
We know that with any other disease, they spread like crazy in the winter because people still go to work even when they're likely to be highly contagious. That might be even more of an issue with Omicron, depending on how the balance of symptoms gets worked out.
 
IOW 400IU ?? Well, that's enough to keep you from getting rickets......
but NOT at all a therapeutic dose
If you want to maintain a late summer blood level,,4-5000 IU
for 8 months of the year (assuming you get a tan in summer)
This level is perfectly safe
This, BTW, is why _I_ am still alive
For other reasons (*) I had been taking 5 Ca (or Ca/Mg) + 5 1000 IU vit D
for 3? years before this shit show started
When I got batsoupflu in Jan2020, it was most unpleasant, but
NOT so severe as to go to hospital
*(foot cramps, EVERY night, usually had to get up and walk them out)
lucky I guess,,,,, and BTW the Ca, at that level, works (no cramps)
 
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Yeah my anti-vax mate showed a chart the other day and i was skeptical. But the number of beds seems to be ~160k and hosp_patients in my data is around 8k. Ballpark figure checks out.
I would need to llok better at data and get data for more places. Covid is fooling me again with different behaviour in different places.
Just like any industry. I'm now thinking the symptomless isolation period of 7/10 days is bit harsh. Maybe that's the real problem? Why not let people decide if they are fit to go to work like with most other sicknesses.
I don't like that. Too contagious. Too randomly deathful. Both employees and employers need guidelines.
Levi is right that people do it wrong too with flu and etc. It's just that we don't lockdown, get shortages and cancellations for flu, so with flu it's health vs. economy (and economy wrongly wins)
but with covid-19 it's been economy vs health+economy, so the unregulated approach just doesn't wok no matter how you look at it.

And maybe a tree-falling-in-the-woods view is better. If you don't feel like a covid victim then you're not.
I'm sure SARS-CoV-2 agrees with that. ;)

Sorry I mix in jokes because I'm insecure (I guess). It's seriously undermined my credibility over the years, impacted my career, ruined friendships, etc.
No big deal for me. I may suffer of something similar sometimes too.

At the minute this seems like a poignant depiction of covid severity:

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hosp_patients up since yesterday!
I don't have time to look at data now. But It doesn't make sense. In your graph ICU and deaths seem almost flat lately.
I've seen in other places (last one Catalonia, I think). Lately (with vaccination) the deaths peaks get significantly lower,
and the ICU and hospitalizations somewhat lower despite much more cases, but they still increase when cases increase (or few weeks later).
I looked at a different graphs for each hospitalization, ICU and death and each graph had lines for different ages, but the point was that
they were now at roughly 80% ICU from last wave (july21), half peak ICU one year ago. Hospitalizations gave same shape as ICU, and
somewhat above half deaths from July21 (last peak), 1/4 deaths from one year ago and 1/16 deaths from the first wave.
I don't disagree. Here's some more data to ponder:

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Are we eager to attribute deaths to covid?
Can one's death "involve" a combination of all three? I assume yes. Co-mingled figures ffs.
Can't covid just kill more ? Some people used to get flu every other winter, so it's easy that when they die they had it (specialy looking at winter data), but they still died of something else.
Maybe I don't know how death certificates work ?


Yes but not worth losing sleep over:

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Indeed, youngs may lose more sleep on who older they can pass COVID on than on what will it do to them.
Imo tik-tok poses a greater risk for the (non-obese) young
You may be right there.
Which comes mainly from not being obese, which I work on constantly.
Well done. What I meant is that you don't have too feel too angry at your vaccination campaign. You were lied to, or promised things that weren't so sure, but in the end you don't have lasting secondary effects, didn't lose any money paying for the vaccine, so you're getting lower advantages than you thought but still got very little inconveniency. Your biggest damage is your trust. And that's arguably worst for the institutions that want you to trust them than for you who now know not to trust them (right or wrong). You still feel entitled as taxpayer to have some institutions you can trust, but you possibly have routine complaints about your government anyway. And maybe the protection from your weight / healthy lifestyle can be complemented by vaccines, it's not like vaccines took health away from you (not that I know, at least).
 
(A long) Discussion on 'Vitamin-D' and Covid.
Sorry I didn't have time to watch. I thought I'd just send the last I read on vitamin-D and Covid-19. I still think having the proper levels of vitamins is always a good idea, but they say studies haven't proved vitamin-D works against COVID-19.
I don't know enough to tell who's right, but since I see there's been interest here, I thought it might be of use.
 
Always good to have a healthy debate so people can see both sides of an argument. The video I linked to is discussing why vitamin-D is so easily ignored.
All results are showing that people with pre-existing conditions are impact way more then healthy people. But in the past 2 years the media isn't pushing the narrative that people should live more healthy, they are pushing a single solution: a vaccine.
Mostly people aren't debating that the vaccine isn't effective against covid*. It's that all other things we can do are so easily ignored because this single solution is pushed as the only real possible solution to the covid problem.
*There are always people that do, but mostly it's aimed at the risk of the vaccine itself compared to covid, the mandatory part and this propaganda for this (mRNA) vaccine being the only real solution.

Sorry I didn't have time to watch. I thought I'd just send the last I read on vitamin-D and Covid-19. I still think having the proper levels of vitamins is always a good idea, but they say studies haven't proved vitamin-D works against COVID-19.
I don't know enough to tell who's right, but since I see there's been interest here, I thought it might be of use.

The original research: "Is vitamin D an effective and safe treatment for COVID-19?". Link: https://www.cochrane.org/CD015043/HAEMATOL_vitamin-d-effective-and-safe-treatment-covid-19
The title already gives away the result, as I assume anyone with some imagination could guess. What would the result be of this imaginary research: "Is the covid vaccine an effective and safe treatment for COVID-19?". (spoiler: no, the vaccine doesn't help when you are already sick with covid)
Reason why vitamins don't work during illness (which is a few days/weeks) is that it's to late already, just like you need vaccines before you get sick. It's like growing a healthy cell, you already have cells. These need to be replaced by 'healthier' ones, which takes time as cell replacement isn't instant (cells replace in different rates, usually within a few days to few months, some years).
The only treatment for covid I currently know of is monoclonal antibodies, but those appear expensive, and even that isn't always supported to be a good solution**.
**"The Biden administration recently paused shipments of COVID-19 antibody treatments manufactured by major drug companies Regeneron and Eli Lilly amid claims that such treatments are not effective against the omicron variant of the coronavirus." Source: https://news.yahoo.com/florida-surgeon-general-says-biden-023522940.html (yahoo news, really? This news could be garbage)

Summary of the research they did (from link mentioned above):
"What did we do?
We searched for studies that assessed the use of vitamin D as a treatment for adults with confirmed COVID-19 compared with a placebo (sham treatment) or another treatment. Vitamin D could be given in any form and in any dose.
We compared and summarised their results, and rated our confidence in the evidence, based on factors such as study methods and sizes."

So does vitamin-D work? The video raises research results that show it does. If anyone has research that proves having low levels of vitamin-D is healthy or doesn't impact covid patients in any way, I like to see them.
As the linked research already raises: having a low level of vitamin-D could just be pointing at being unhealthy in general, and not that the low levels of vitamin-D itself is the cause.
You would hope things like these would then be researched to prove right or wrong, that's what science is about. Not having the question be ignored as it could be a reason for people to not get vaccinated.
We are all in the same fight against covid, and as we appear to be losing the fight, you would hope that anything that works would be supported and not just a single (commercial) solution.
 
I don't like that. Too contagious. Too randomly deathful. Both employees and employers need guidelines.
Levi is right that people do it wrong too with flu and etc. It's just that we don't lockdown, get shortages and cancellations for flu, so with flu it's health vs. economy (and economy wrongly wins)
The trade-off is health vs freedom in general. And people weren't getting upset so the trade-off seems to be accepted.

You're right in that the response is imbalanced.

didn't lose any money paying for the vaccine
Ironic right.......?!

Indeed, youngs may lose more sleep on who older they can pass COVID on than on what will it do to them.
Everyone was hoping that vaccines would reduce transmissions but now that seems to not be the case. It is not an argument for vaccinating the young. But to be clear I view the young as different, more precious and delicate.

Oh shit:
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The trade-off is health vs freedom in general. And people weren't getting upset so the trade-off seems to be accepted.
What freedom ? I got lost. Not too important, I guess.
Ironic right.......?!
Not really. Ignorant maybe. Hopefully not offensive ? Sorry in any case.
Everyone was hoping that vaccines would reduce transmissions but now that seems to not be the case. It is not an argument for vaccinating the young. But to be clear I view the young as different, more precious and delicate.
Of course it's not an argument for vaccinating the young. I was only speaking of concern by youngs, both vaccinated and unvaccinated youngs.
This concern may alter behaviour, but it's not very rational to vaccinate just to prevent passing it on, and it's dangerous (to others) to believe that once vaccinated you can take more pass-on risks than you would otherwise.
From the start of the vaccines there were voices saying that the clinical trials weren't designed to check whether they prevent passing it on.
Then the variants changed and the vaccines not.
Yes, everyone was hoping until recently that vaccines would prevent passing it on (until maybe recently, now it's hard to hope anymore, well they may prevent it somewhat for some time, but not that much).
But we were all hoping COVID-19 wouldn't last, or that vaccines would work (to prevent death and hospital) against new variants, or that we wouldn't have outbreaks in summer,
or that once 70% of population got vaccinated (or recovered) the virus would just go away. Now we're hoping that all next variants will be not of concern and this will be the last wave, or the worst, or something.
(just wait, at least in Israel COVID met flu in the same patient, let's hope they don't make friends and have babies)
We're still hoping that the vaccines will be safe and effective after 4, 5, 6 ... boosters. We can't know yet. But hope ? Yeah, sure, why not hope ?
For me the problem is that it wasn't just hope. Many government were blanket prescribing new vaccines to everyone and justifying it with unproven protection from passing it on (among other more real justifications).
And even worse governments were using the assumption that vaccines prevent contagion to restrict rights of the unvaccinated compared to the vaccinated.
Don't get me wrong, right to life is also a right, and for me it's more important than right to party, so I'm in favour of many restrictions, just not to discriminate on vaccination status.
At least when the assumption proves wrong, then the discrimination should be lifted, although I don't really think they'll do it.

And I see the young and the elder equally precious and delicate. I do have a sense of gilt for the world I'm leaving to the people younger than me, and I can be tolerant of little children being unwise, but otherwise, I value all lives equal.
ACK. The problem is too difficult for me. That's why I'm not too eager to criticize people or governments that get it wrong. But I do expect governments to adapt to new evidence sooner than later.
Maybe the different graphs have to do with when the vaccines were started, how long since last vaccination and which vaccine it was (did the UK use more AZ than Spain ? does AZ last more an Pfizer peak higher and last shorter?, I think they did separate the doses more in the UK than in Spain, but then they changed course with Delta?).

so the amount of people who run out of effectivity may be different at different times). Or it could be anything else.
 
Always good to have a healthy debate so people can see both sides of an argument. The video I linked to is discussing why vitamin-D is so easily ignored.
I finally watched it. I'm not too keen of videos. Not a bad one this one (at times it seemed like the men didn't let the woman speak, despite she sounding more expert than them), but I'd still have to read the papers.
I didn't get whether they're only saying to test everyone and supplement those deficient or they're also saying that the accepted vitamin-D levels are wrong and should be updated.
At some moments it seems like they're saying like you can give some dose to absolutely everyone and not even do a blood test because the safe level is much higher than thought.
Well, if that's so, then yes, prescribing vitamin-D supplements to everyone would be great. But if you need to have a doctor making sure it's not contraindicated or people tested for
whether they need it or how much, we're not having enough antigen tests, let alone drawing blood and checking vitamin-D to everyone.

All results are showing that people with pre-existing conditions are impact way more then healthy people. But in the past 2 years the media isn't pushing the narrative that people should live more healthy, they are pushing a single solution: a vaccine.
That's because healthy lifestyles have more or less being promoted for some time and people aren't doing it any better (ok, some are, I think, but not many).
It's a very first class thing. Lots of people have social reasons they don't have healthy lives. Yet almost anybody could do better, yes, but then there are psicological factors.
You want people taking care of their vitamin-D levels ? what about they not starting to smoke ? Or leaving it ?
Having healthier lifestyles means changing everything in our societies. It's worth it and should be done, but it's not easy and it's not even what all politicians want at all.
Shooting vaccines to everybody is relatively easier (still a lot of work, coordination, ultrafrezzers and what not, but it's kind of the kind of things government can imagine themselves doing).
You hire people, pay for products, schedule visits and get it done. The government invest money and the people invest 10 minutes or 100 but can forget about it. You can even certify and
use it as a way to control people. Fire and forget. Good luck certifying people is taking their daily or weekly pills.


Mostly people aren't debating that the vaccine isn't effective against covid*. It's that all other things we can do are so easily ignored because this single solution is pushed as the only real possible solution to the covid problem.

Healthy lifestyles are much more advisable than vaccine or medication, and they would save not only pain and death but also money in health care. But it's not something the
authorities trust themselves to achieve. In theory they've been trying forever. They're cheap, they want to outsource (to pharma). They don't even care if it works, they care they
were told it would work. And maybe it's not even their job. I mean one should have a doctor available to treat them when one's sick. But maybe a healthy lifestyle is a more personal
responsability. It's like calling the fire brigade to clean the snow in your front yard, because it might cause an accident. Clean your house yourself and call the fire brigade if you
need them in an accident.

The people in the video are like, they've found out something big and relevant, with big potential, and nobody listens, so it's natural that they're frustrated and start thinking conspiracies
and incompetence, and would want to ask for responsabilities, but maybe if the same people were in government would be even more frustrated and even less effective. That's specially for the host,
the guests are more normal. And it looks like they're already doing the most useful they can, gathering evidence, organising it and sharing it.

I mean doctors are already supplementing people with vitamin-D deficit. But few people know they're deficient because they don't check themselves often.
In some countries authorities were already recommending vitamin-D supplements generally. I don't know whether people do it, though.
Maybe the problem is the doses or the recommended levels are wrong ?

The original research: "Is vitamin D an effective and safe treatment for COVID-19?". Link: https://www.cochrane.org/CD015043/HAEMATOL_vitamin-d-effective-and-safe-treatment-covid-19
The title already gives away the result, as I assume anyone with some imagination could guess. What would the result be of this imaginary research: "Is the covid vaccine an effective and safe treatment for COVID-19?". (spoiler: no, the vaccine doesn't help when you are already sick with covid)
Reason why vitamins don't work during illness (which is a few days/weeks) is that it's to late already, just like you need vaccines before you get sick. It's like growing a healthy cell, you already have cells. These need to be replaced by 'healthier' ones, which takes time as cell replacement isn't instant (cells replace in different rates, usually within a few days to few months, some years).
Good, still it seems they tried. Both you, the people in the video you sent and the author of the newspiece I sent know more about this than me.
I was only refering to the sentence
Keine Empfehlung zur routinemäßigen Verwendung von Vitamin D zur Prophylaxe oder adjuvanten Therapie von Sars-CoV-2-Infektionen.
Therapy is not what the video is proposing, but Profilaxis is, isnt' it?
This is meant to be taken from Nice, not cochrane. It says fix the deficits but don't take Vitamin-D specifically to prevent COVID-19.
They may be wrong, of course. I can't tell.

So does vitamin-D work? The video raises research results that show it does. If anyone has research that proves having low levels of vitamin-D is healthy or doesn't impact covid patients in any way, I like to see them.
I don't say that. I said if you have any vitamin low, fix it.
As the linked research already raises: having a low level of vitamin-D could just be pointing at being unhealthy in general, and not that the low levels of vitamin-D itself is the cause.
You would hope things like these would then be researched to prove right or wrong, that's what science is about. Not having the question be ignored as it could be a reason for people to not get vaccinated.
We are all in the same fight against covid, and as we appear to be losing the fight, you would hope that anything that works would be supported and not just a single (commercial) solution.
I'm a little lost if what we should be doing (or researching whether worth doing) is:
- taking the accepted doses and levels of vitamin-D in the body and putting more effort in ensuring that everyone has them right
- updating the accepted levels in the body or the dosage
- forgetting about levels and simply blindly giving everyone some dosage of vitamin-D to prevent COVID-19 because the risk/benefit is going to be much better than not doing it because there's this pandemic here.
- forgetting about governments, doctors and dosages and just putting more personal effort in healthier, outdoor lifestyles.

Another opportunity for research nobody seems to be talking about is UVB transparent clothes. I think they're used for islamic women who cover all their skin outdoors, but maybe could be adapted to winter clothes that
keep you warm but increase you vitamin-D production. According to the video it would only work in some places at some hours, but still.

I've only taken Vitamin-D when my doctor told me, after a blood test. Then he told me to stop after other blood tests. He never told me I should make a habit of taking it in any dose.
And I'm quite against selfprescribing myself stuff. So I'd love for researchers to research and or authorities to issue recommendations.
 
My nose is kinda stuffy. Pretty sure I am going to die now.

Edit: Add diarrhea to that too. I've got something, not sure what.
 
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There are long lines for testing in the US now. Rapid tests are running low too.

Anyway, my dad said that one of my stepmother's grandchildren who's living with him has COVID, so he's not going to come over to see me tomorrow like he usually does on Wednesdays. :(
 
Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1
"Conclusion We identified additional valid cases of myopericarditis following an mRNA vaccination that would be missed by the VSD’s search algorithm, which depends on select hospital discharge diagnosis codes. The true incidence of myopericarditis is markedly higher than the incidence reported to US advisory committees. The VSD should validate its search algorithm to improve its sensitivity for myopericarditis."
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That's because healthy lifestyles have more or less being promoted for some time and people aren't doing it any better (ok, some are, I think, but not many).
It's a very first class thing. Lots of people have social reasons they don't have healthy lives. Yet almost anybody could do better, yes, but then there are psicological factors.
You want people taking care of their vitamin-D levels ? what about they not starting to smoke ? Or leaving it ?
Having healthier lifestyles means changing everything in our societies. It's worth it and should be done, but it's not easy and it's not even what all politicians want at all.
Shooting vaccines to everybody is relatively easier (still a lot of work, coordination, ultrafrezzers and what not, but it's kind of the kind of things government can imagine themselves doing).
You hire people, pay for products, schedule visits and get it done. The government invest money and the people invest 10 minutes or 100 but can forget about it. You can even certify and
use it as a way to control people. Fire and forget. Good luck certifying people is taking their daily or weekly pills.
Looks like they do promote a healthier lifestyle after all, just not that prominently: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

"Steps to Take Now
Systemic change takes time, as does long-term weight loss. In addition to the steps everyone should take to slow the spread of COVID-19, individuals can help protect themselves and their families during this pandemic by:
Eating a healthy diet
Being active
Getting enough sleep
Coping with stress"
 
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Pretty sure I’m fine now. Mostly I just don’t want to go through the hassle of getting tested.
Who are you ? And WHAT DID YOU DO TO @JDTAY ?!

Re Hassle: I'm hearing they're recommending to collect samples from both mouth and nose now. THat's what they did at the beginning, they say.
Apparently omicron is detected more in mouth than Delta. No official guidelines just some couple of prerprints and rumours. But shouldn't hurt either.
 
Preprint: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.21.21268209v1
"Conclusion We identified additional valid cases of myopericarditis following an mRNA vaccination that would be missed by the VSD’s search algorithm, which depends on select hospital discharge diagnosis codes. The true incidence of myopericarditis is markedly higher than the incidence reported to US advisory committees. The VSD should validate its search algorithm to improve its sensitivity for myopericarditis."
Thanks. Combined with the other paper you sent earlier, doesn't look bright.

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Looks like they do promote a healthier lifestyle after all, just not that prominently: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html

"Steps to Take Now
Systemic change takes time, as does long-term weight loss. In addition to the steps everyone should take to slow the spread of COVID-19, individuals can help protect themselves and their families during this pandemic by:
Eating a healthy diet
Being active
Getting enough sleep
Coping with stress"
Sure they do. But just propaganda isn't enough. Maybe we need to build a society that doesn't tell to each memeber he should be the best, so that we fix the cause of the stress, or that allows people to survive working fewer hours so they can get sleep, or that doesn't fool them into consumism that gets them working more and sleeping less. Etc. Some people don't know or don't care about healthy lifestyles and may benefit from the propaganda. But some know and don't feel they can do much about it.
 
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