World News Thread (Politics,whatever)

[FBnil]

Well, Europa is giving Italy 81 billion euro (and a loan)

Italië krijgt 209 miljard euro bijgeschreven: premier Conte kraait van geluk

In Brussel hebben de Europese regeringsleiders na vijf dagen onderhandelen een akkoord bereikt over het coronaherstelfonds. Er komt 750 miljard euro beschikbaar voor de landen die het meest getroffen zijn door de epidemie, 209 miljard daarvan gaan naar Italië. De Italiaanse premier Conte kraait...

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You would think Italy is a poor country, and in need of monetary aid from the other European countries... but that's NOT true, check out how much gold they have:

Gold reserve - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That's right, number 3.

If Italy would sell 1.587 ton of gold (which would give them that amount of gifted european money), there would still be 864 ton left, enough to stay in the top 10 of countries with the most gold.

Note how the United states has much much much more than the other countries. This is due to tricks, like helping in the Ukraine regime change, in exchange for the countries gold. Or invade a country, and take the gold, in return for giving "freedom".
And, oh yeah, also: https://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/02/world/nazi-gold-was-recast-and-issued-in-the-us.html

 

[TeDaDeS]

The UFO topic was raised yesterday again:

Pentagon Consultant Briefed Senators on Discovery of ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’ | National Review

Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program, said he gave a classified briefing.

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"Pentagon Consultant Briefed Senators on Discovery of ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’"

"
Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and then a consultant for the Pentagon U.F.O. program since 2007 told the New York Times he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department agency as recently as March about the alleged “off-world” vehicles. He also gave classified briefings on retrievals of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee last October.
Davis said that in some cases he had failed to determine the source of recovered materials, leading him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”
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[ElPoco]

Well, Europa is giving Italy 81 billion euro (and a loan)

Italië krijgt 209 miljard euro bijgeschreven: premier Conte kraait van geluk

In Brussel hebben de Europese regeringsleiders na vijf dagen onderhandelen een akkoord bereikt over het coronaherstelfonds. Er komt 750 miljard euro beschikbaar voor de landen die het meest getroffen zijn door de epidemie, 209 miljard daarvan gaan naar Italië. De Italiaanse premier Conte kraait...

www.ad.nl

You would think Italy is a poor country, and in need of monetary aid from the other European countries... but that's NOT true, check out how much gold they have:

Gold reserve - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's part of a 750 billion package for the whole Europe. Since Italy is one of the countries that has been most impacted by the COVID (and still is with the impact on tourism) it's good that they get enough to help their economy. I think that selling the gold would make their (considerable) debt less secure, meaning higher interest rates, which would benefit no-one except the banks.

Plus money is dirt cheap right now: we don't lack money, we lack buyers to absorb the production surplus. So throwing money around sounds like a pretty sound solution. It only hurts banks who would rather have it be private money (their money) than public money. Then there's always the problem of making sure the money stays in the real economy rather than going to inflate bubbles and the bank account of billionaires, but that's another topic.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

we lack buyers to absorb the production surplus

That's a strange thing to call a problem. Just slow down production and in doing that stop wasting resources.

 

[ElPoco]

That's a strange thing to call a problem. Just slow down production and in doing that stop wasting resources.

Yes, except that with our broken economic system if we do that people don't get paid.
And while this crisis could have been an opportunity to start transitioning away from that wasteful and dangerous model, it doesn't look like any major power is considering it.

 

[levi]

That's a strange thing to call a problem. Just slow down production and in doing that stop wasting resources.

Also consider that one part at least of the production surplus is the rent paid to shops in towns like Florence. They could always close and some of them will probably have to in the end, but their intention at least is to keep them open for the few tourists that are about, and so that they're ready whenever this shutdown ends.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I'd say, such a shutdown decreases the value of a location for a shop immensly and thus rent should go down accordingly.

 

[levi]

Yes, but landlords aren't generally well known for their civic responsibility in my experience. And perhaps in some of these cases the landlord is actually the local council, who are spending money right now like it's going out of fashion right now in putting up signage and things like that.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I wasn't suggesting to leave it to the landlords to lower the rent. Weren't we talking about, how the governments worry about small businesses.

 

[levi]

You did say the rent should go down, which is something controlled by the landlords. But yes, the government could pay shop owners to offset part of the costs of the rent, but they're already struggling with the cost of this pandemic, and generally at the moment are trying to cut out payments to people and expecting everyone to get back to normal, despite the science so far only ever getting more serious as time goes on.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I mean for the government to rule something like: businesses that are x hindered by the pandemic or the shutdowns owe their landlords only y percent the agreed upon rent. And to avoid determination of all those individual x, they'd do it category-wise.

 

[Klumpen]

You did say the rent should go down, which is something controlled by the landlords.

There's the cause of 80% of modern problems.

 

[FBnil]

boom?

 

[levi]

Yes, the explosion of the fertiliser that port city is pretty remarkable, but just seems to have been entirely accidental thus far.

 

[FBnil]

Yes, the explosion of the fertiliser that port city is pretty remarkable, but just seems to have been entirely accidental thus far.

No no, I mean the OTHER gigantic explosion in China... no, wait, it was in North Korea, no wait.... it was in Iran... there have been many fires and explosions in Iran.

source: https://commonsensetv.nl/29502-2/

 

[Klumpen]

Michael Bay directed 2020.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Michael Bay directed 2020.

Nah, his plots are more believable.

 

[FBnil]

Boom! (Dubai this time)

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Weird, I remember this from 4 to 6 years ago... either fake or somebody that was trolling.
But world news... really?

The Mirror is a tabloid. They're professional trolls.

 

[Null]

Canada's last fully intact Arctic ice shelf collapses

The Milne Ice Shelf which collapsed is at the fringe of Ellesmere Island, in the sparsely populated northern Canadian territory of Nunavut.

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Glaciers in New Zealand's Southern Alps shrunk by 62% since 1600

The Southern Alps in New Zealand are the latest icy region to be devastated by global warming and a study has found their glaciers have shrunk by up to 62 per cent by 1600.

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