World News Thread (Politics,whatever)

[ible]

uh oh, i have the thingiverse models on my harddrive of similar scaled-down but non-deadly things...

 

[levi]

I for one welcome our new stasi overlords

 

[Caine]

EU parlament votes no to fasttrack copyright bill:

Spoiler

 

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yes that is some good news at least! so there are at least some people with common sense in there.

 

[Klumpen]

German law enforcement is going haywire right now. they just raided the house where my local hackerspace is located, literally 2 minutes around the corner from me. there are several registered public associations that are housed in the building, a gbltq association, a science and free education association which also hosts servers and internet access and our local ccc friendly hacker space, aswell as a gourmet restaurant. they claim, that someone hosted plans for nuclear reactors or some shit on some server in that science/free internet groups premises and they had a warrant for that only, but regarless they just knocked down every door with battering rams and confiscated whatever they could from every other tennant.

this has been happening in augsburg, jena, berlin and dresden aswell and numerous ngos and ccc facilities have been hit. what the hell is going on? these morons bust peoples 3d printing equipment an seize it, because they claim the accused were manufacturing explosive devices. because they had printed a "nuclear bomb" fallout like mini nuke model.

https://m.all3dp.com/4/german-police-raid-augsburg-fablab-confiscate-3d-printed-atom-bomb/

german:

http://m.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/ha...lub-kritisiert-polizeivorgehen-a-1216463.html

https://netzpolitik.org/2018/razzia-in-dortmund-cybercrime-abteilung-durchsucht-webhoster/

Signs of the imminent end of the free and mostly unregulated Internet.
They disrupt and destroy everything that stands in the way of the obvious authoritarian reform, because they can.

Sad.

Regarding the vote:
They will try again and again until someday people are distracted enough by some soccer tournament or the olympics so that it works.
The timing, as always, was no coinscidence.

 

[klapse]

They will try again and again until someday people are distracted enough by some soccer tournament or the olympics so that it works.
The timing, as always, was no coinscidence.

Well now we got over 700k signatures against this incarnation, which means despite no media coverage, the word is getting out to the tech-literate at least.

They will try it again and again yes, but the more they do, the more of us will get woke to the nefarious motives for such measures, and more will see that their television is the real 'fake news'.

 

[Klumpen]

 

[FBnil]

what the hell is going on?

There is far too much information on the german web for humans to sift through. So you buy artificial intelligence. Good algorithms, like Watson, are expensive, so you buy a cheaper one.
The Artificial Intelligence makes relations: SELECT * FROM users with topics (TOR AND Nuclear Bomb); and it still is learning, thus, false positives.
They need to learn to trust the computer less, and learn gut instinct.

The Cybersecurity and CyberCrime divisions are hot at the moment (lots of applause, budget... but relatively little results because normal police has more experience and gets better results even with low/mid-tech - for example with informants) and have budget to spare (actually, you need results to show for next years budget).

alternative 2:
Because real villains are on the darkweb (TOR), and they were on TOR. That's all. A signal that they are watching, and trigger-happy.

new scenario:
Maybe they should outsource that to the USA, because meanwhile in France:

"The magnitude of the eavesdropping is what shocked us," Bernard Kouchner said in a radio interview. "Let's be honest, we eavesdrop too. Everyone is listening to everyone else. But we don't have the same means as the United States, which makes us jealous. "

 

[JDTAY]

Hey guys, I've just realized a deeper reason why I hate the social contract. Before it was just because I didn't remember signing any contract. Today though, I realized that even if the social contract is a useful tool, liberals have already breached it and thus made the whole thing null and void.

Specifically, having children used to be pretty much the whole cornerstone of the damn thing. Now the world fertility rate has reversed course towards human extinction. Why should I be interested in keeping people alive who aren't interested in keeping humanity alive? I mean, I gotta pay off your tuition for you so you can spend the rest of your life just sitting around playing video games? Screw you.

And I even say this as someone who plans to spend the rest of his life sitting around playing video games. >_> The sooner they cut me off, the better.
[doublepost=1531464971,1531464091][/doublepost]Since my previous comment is going to get me all the unlikes anyway, may as well unload just a bit more.

To feminists: You're right that you're not required to love anyone. You fail to realize though that love and children were what were keeping men in the social contract. If you stop giving a damn, so shall I.

 

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yeah great, just what we need. Another whiny dude who does not realize that his personal problems are not the world's problems.

Could you please read again what is meant by social contract? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract you didn't sign it because it is a symbolic contract. If you think you cannot participate in that social contract because someone somewhere breached it, be it feminists or liberals or whatever you find to blame your own social inadequacy on, then you haven't understood a thing.

and the whole birthrate/extinction thing: wut???? birth rates are through the roof, world population is rising all the time... we are having water/food and housing problems already. Yeah that might very well lead to our extinction, but I am pretty sure feminists do not have anything to do with that whatsoever.

fucking idiot...

oh yeah, have some more data because it seems you are unable to google:
https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth

 

[JDTAY]

yeah great, just what we need. Another whiny dude who does not realize that his personal problems are not the world's problems.

Bah, then why is it that when a woman feels underpaid or a black guy gets shot by the police, they make it the world's problem?

And world fertility rate is below commonly accepted replacement rate. There were a ton of mainstream media articles about it when it happened. Haven't heard of your source, but if it disputes that basic fact, it's not worth my time.

 

[elw3]

Bah, then why is it that when a woman feels underpaid or a black guy gets shot by the police, they make it the world's problem?

Woman and animals are weak and helpless otherwise so they have to rely on the rest of the society.

 

[JDTAY]

Jeez Elw3, thanks for trying to make me look good by comparison, I guess.

 

[undexsym]

can you not

 

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Bah, then why is it that when a woman feels underpaid or a black guy gets shot by the police, they make it the world's problem?

And world fertility rate is below commonly accepted replacement rate. There were a ton of mainstream media articles about it when it happened.

you are not having problems because you are a woman or because you are part of an ethnical group that is systematically persecuted. You are having problems because you are a guy who has problems. That's the difference. Are you being treated differently because of your sex/gender or ethnicity? Nope, I don't think so.

Haven't heard of your source, but if it disputes that basic fact, it's not worth my time.

yes, not reading actual input to the debates you start seems to be a recurring theme with your posts. Not much I can do then if you chose to only read what you deem to be the "facts". You have a lot in common with your president, eventhough you leave no opportunity to make fun of him.

In regards to your claims concerning birth rates etc... where are your sources? I posted mine, why should I trust anything you say or claim at all? You are a proven troll with psycho tendencies. How about wikipedia again? Are you willing to read that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-replacement_fertility#United_States

@Elw3: that is what "society" is for and why we are organizing in social groups... if you prefer social darwinism instead, I am sure you'd be dead in a couple of days, beaten into a pulp by some sadistic asshole because we are all pretty weak on our own. Given your track record I am certain it'd take minutes for you to piss someone else off so much they'd do physical harm to you, if it wasn't for that social paradigm of "we'll manage with our words instead of killing each other" that so conveniently protects you, so you can explain that it was "just a joke" and everyone else is just too stupid to have the appropriate humour.

 

[elw3]

Are you threatening me with violence? Help! Hatespeech!

 

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Are you threatening me with violence? Help! Hatespeech!

hypothetically yes. sorry for instrumentalizing your post but it fits perfectly to JDTAYs post as an example. I am sure your post was sarcasm anyway, but still: saying the things you (and I, and lots of others) sometimes say, is only possible because we are protected by this social convention. otherwise we'd not be able to openly discuss these things without fearing for our physical health, as "survival of the fittest" dictates that actions are stronger than words. which is incidentally what women had to deal with for the last couple of centuries and still face today.

 

[JDTAY]

Are you being treated differently because of your sex/gender or ethnicity? Nope, I don't think so.

I'd argue that I am. Logically speaking, if everyone except whites and males are being treated differently due to their gender or ethnicity, it follows that the way whites and males are treated is unique to white and males, and is therefore different from everyone else too.


[doublepost=1531501895,1531500736][/doublepost]I don't appreciate your motte and bailey tactics with regard to the social contract either. Liberals use the concept of the social contract as a push for liberal policy, then when the push for liberal policy is questioned, change social contract to mean the thing holding society together.

No, that was called common decency, and you assholes threw it out the window around 2014 when you started treating the entire world like internet social media.

 

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I'd argue that I am. Logically speaking, if everyone except whites and males are being treated differently due to their gender or ethnicity, it follows that the way whites and males are treated is unique to white and males, and is therefore different from everyone else too.

yeah the keyword here being systematically persecuted or disadvantaged. If you think white males are systematically disadvantaged because a bunch of women and LGBTQ people threaten your comfortzone and become a little too loud for you, you need a serious reality check. And just because you as an individual feel/are oppressed/disadvantaged yadda-yadda doesn't mean it invaluates the struggle of others, it's actually even more reason to show solidarity.

interesting, but I really don't have anything to do with american liberals. I am a European person, and I actually do not recall having anything to do with any liberals at all. If you really want to know, I am an anarchist. So in a sense I probably fit into a lot of your stereotypes. Please elaborate on what you are talking about there, what did who exactly throw out the window in 2014? And when was "common decency" ever on the agenda of sexists, corporate capitalists or right wing conservatives anywhere in the world ever? please enlighten me ^^.

 

[levi]

Calling all mods to the unmoderated thread!