The Guy That Sells Gp32 Dvds On Ebay

[craigix]

Mr DVD,

I don't care, you can put all my stuff on the DVD, its free without any limits. But you should ask the other authors.

-Craig

www.gbax.com

 

[MrGp32DVD]

Hi Craig,

Many thanks for your reply!
Thats the sort of community spirit that I respect and feel should be commonplace.
Would you like me to add your url onto the DVD?
Or would you like me to add any other info?

I love your stuff btw,its some of the best available.
I wish it was all as good quality!

If there are any authors that would like me to add stuff or remove then I would be more than happy to assist.

h34r:

 

[Goity]

so you feel you should be allowed to sell the dev's work, with no merit to them?

 

[MrGp32DVD]

Hi,

Please do not assume anything that I think!
The law allows me to operate this without informing anyone.I didnt expect anyone to have a problem with it to be honest....alot of people I have also spoken to about it dont understand the problem either!
If someone releases something for free then that is their own choice.
If someone else is prepared to pay then that is also their choice.
The profit in these DVD's is what I require for the following:-

1) The time spent downloading it all
2) The time spent testing it all and deleting non working and crap files
3) The time spent arranging it all into sections
4) The time spent burning dvd,packaging and posting

After ebay and paypal fees that makes this transaction a very modest hourly wage! Though I doublt if I have covered the many hours spent getting the DVD together.

 

[EvilDragon]

Just one thing to add (no, I am NOT an enemy of yours, just for your information):

It is true that you can include free stuff on a free disc (you may charge a small fee for the medium and burning) without asking the coders.
You MAY NOT include stuff where the readme says "... not to be included on a collection...", "... not to be redistributed without my permission..." or something similar.
(I don't know if you have stuff like, e.g. Gianas Return on it, which clearly says that).

BUT... you MAY NOT charge anything for the TIME you spent (at least, it's like this here in Germany, I guess in other countries it could be similar).
Because charging for your work is basically doing commercial stuff - even if you don't make any money by that (then that's your problem).

So you basically are only allowed to charge for the DVD medium (and PayPal / eBay Fees, etc.) - and that's where the problem is: Your price is way too high for the medium only.

As said, I don't want to start a fight with you, but getting money for your working time is COMMERCIAL.

That's the most basic commercial thing on earth:
Getting something for doing something.

I'm the creator of the GP32x File Archive (www.gp32x.de).
It's totally free for everyone. And it takes up a lot of time.
But as soon as I would CHARGE someone to download stuff, the archive would become commercial - and illegal, since I would be selling someone elses work.

I'd even have to pay taxes if I would earn more money (via ads on my page) than I have to pay to host that stuff...

 

[MrGp32DVD]

Hi,

Many thanks for your detailed information.

Im not trying to break any laws here at all!! I did my homework beforehand.
Im also not wishing to upset anyone.

I will double check on the relevence this has in my country but I have been advised already that its legal here.

One thing that made me laugh today was the following email message:-

Hi

I want to buy one of your gp32 DVD's after reading about them on gp32x.de -
like you I can't belive all of the whooharr about it - still they are mostly
kids so to be expected I guess. Anyway I live in the UK who do I paypal money to
for DVD and postage?

Thanks mate


So it seems I do have another supporter!!!

 

[Goity]

or a spy.
btw. I betcha got an F for your homework

 

[MrGp32DVD]

A spy?!
Ive already agreed to upload all my content!

F for my homework!?
Do u know any different?

Havent u read this forum??

Doh!

 

[Blah]

___

 

[MrGp32DVD]

Blah...........

Your obviously a kid also......................

Mature comments only please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Goity]

As a mature person, not a child, I advise you maturely to piss off

 

[markusdragon]

What country are you in, MrGP32DVD?

Edit: Just looked on ebay. You're from the UK, which means that you have to abie by both the UCC (universal copyright convention) and the Berne convention. Under this, if something is Freeware, it doesn't mean that it is in the public domain, ergo the DVDs are definately illegal at the price at which you are supplying them.

Freeware
Freeware also is covered by copyright and subject to the conditions defined by the holder of the copyright. The conditions for freeware are in direct opposition to normal copyright restrictions. In general, freeware software licenses stipulate that (1) the software is covered by copyright, (2) copies of the software can be made for both archival and distribution purposes but that distribution cannot be for profit, (3) modifications to the software is allowed and encouraged, (4) decompiling (i.e. reverse engineering) of the program code is allowed without the explicit permission of the copyright holder, and (5) development of new works built upon the package (derivative works) is allowed and encouraged with the condition that derivative works must also be designated as freeware. That means that you cannot take freeware, modify or extend it, and then sell it as commercial or shareware software.

Having said that, I'm still tempted to get one. I'm planning a GP32 website sometime in the near future... >_>.

 

[moz]

witchhunt

 

[EvilDragon]

witchhunt

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Not really.
If you are a coder, this CAN be annoying to you.

If he wants to sell the DVD, he may do so without profit - means:
Maximum price is the one he buys the DVDs for.

 

[markusdragon]

CD-Rs, DVD-Rs, or any other forms of recordable media may not be list on eBay unless they are blank.

Examples
The following are examples of items that may not be listed on eBay:

* Music compilations on CD-R
* The entire first season of a television series on one DVD-R
* Compilation of 500 "freeware" and "shareware" programmes on one CD-R
* A VHS copy of a movie taped off of television

Exception
Sellers may list copies of software, music, movies, television programmes, or games on CD-R, DVD-R (or other forms of recordable media) where:

* the seller is the copyright owner; or
* the underlying material is in the public domain

eBay Guideline:
If you are the copyright owner of the material you are offering on CD-R or DVD-R, make sure you say so in your listing!

Examples

* A local band decides to release its latest album on CD-R. The band may list the album on eBay so long as it is clear from the listing that the band is the copyright owner.
* A buyer purchases an album on eBay that was released by a local band on CD-R. The buyer may not list the album on eBay, even though the band released the album on CD-R, because it violates eBay's Recordable Media policy.

Warning
Listings violating eBay's Recordable Media policy may be ended early by eBay. Multiple violations of eBay's Recordable Media policy could result in the suspension of your account.

According to ebay's rules, even if you did sell it at just the cost of duplication it would be against their policy, simply because you don't hold the copyright.

 

[Sulsy]

i thought as long as he states that everything is avalible free off of the net there would be no problem. you would be paying for the time the guy took in downloading and gathering the stuff and then putting it on a dvd cos it would take a long time to download all that

 

[BaDToaD]

@ MrGp32DVD. Why don't you just drop the price to a couple of quid, just to cover your costs and then maybe people will be less pissed off at you making money off their hard work. You'll be doing the community a favour instead of ripping it off.

Of course somehow I think it's unlikely you'll do this because you don't care about the community only lining your pocket.

Just out of interest, what percentage of the profits are you going to donate to the paypal accounts of the various software authors that made your little venture possible?

 

[LHC]

He seems like a nice enough guy. B)

 

[EvilDragon]

i thought as long as he states that everything is avalible free off of the net there would be no problem. you would be paying for the time the guy took in downloading and gathering the stuff and then putting it on a dvd cos it would take a long time to download all that

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Nope, as soon as you earn money for the time you need, it's called "work".

 

[e_b]

erm how much does this actually cost?

disk = <£1
p&p = <£2

time, well let's be honest - a day or 2 at most then 10 mins per disk.

so where does £13 inc come from?

If they've sold so well you should have recouped that day(s) worth of downloading & making the disk after about 15 - 20 disks (at most), after that and the 'early adopters' have paid for the cost of making the product, the price should drop to costs only (£5 tops IMHO)

B)