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Test the keymat!

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by EvilDragon, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. Grench

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    Maybe it's tour can get extended when it completes the current list?

    Looking into things beyond the keymat... I know it isn't the 'final case', but the dimensions should be pretty right. Has anyone checked how it fits/feels in a pocket?
     
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  2. levi

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    I didn't try pocketing the prototype, but I checked how it matched up against my Pandora. Same width, about half a hinge area extension at the back, and identifiably thicker. I think it should fit in most of my jeans pockets, but my Pandora isn't really that comfortable in most of my jeans, especially not if I sit down.

    Once neat-ish thing about my Pandora is the way the headphone is mounted pretty close to the corner, I can leave that corner hanging out and listen to music on headphones while I'm pottering of a bank holiday. The Pyra has its headphone port on the rear, and because of the shoulder buttons it's some way from the corner, so may not work the same way. But if the dock does ever come to production, it's the right place for it for sure, and it's a trade off because where that port was is now taken with wifi and GSM bits which I plan to be making some serious use of. But I may keep my Pandora charged for that odd unbooked bank-holiday's worth of pottering.
     
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  3. ClockworkCoder

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    It would actually fit in my jacket pocket, but I wouldn't put it in a pocket, unless I was wearing cargo's. It is on the 'slightly chunky' side :)

    I've now sent the package on to the next in the list... Kind of sad to see it leave, but at least the next keymat sample I'll be trying will have a fully working screen and OS, and other bits and bobs, to try it with :)

    @levi, thanks to you too. Was really good to see an actual Pandora. They are actually much more impressive than I was expecting too; even with all the drama, and issues, I do feel like I missed out back when it was released :) This makes the Pyra all the more exciting.
     
  4. Robert Taylor

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    *nod*

    I think in one of the Youtube videos it was mentioned that in the future additional work would be put towards making things slimmer, etc. A lot can be done in that regard. For us, WE ARE GRATEFUL that the initial release has such a huge battery. Of all the things that I despise about all of my smartphones is that the lowest common denominator for consumer products is that it must fit in a womans hand comfortably, be cute, not be too heavy and provide "just enough" battery life for the buzzfeed crowd.

    I think starting with something that is usable at the expense of some compactness is great for a first release. Future releases could look at slimming things down.
     
  5. Eight Bit

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    Or filling the excess space up with even MOAR BATTERY! :D
     
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  6. ible

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    dual batteries please! hot swap!
     
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  7. Eight Bit

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    Okay, so double battery capacity and some capacitors for hot-swap ability :)
     
  8. Grench

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    Be sure to add wheels and a handle as well. This is quickly going from a pocket computer into a luggable.
     
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  9. ò.Ó

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    I vote for ceramic skateboard bearings for the wheels.
     
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  10. Bernd

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    I vote for ceramic-hybrid milling-spindle bearings.
    24 000 rpm minimum.

    More power ! harharharhar!
     
  11. rygD

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    Off-topic: Big ol' fans that help keep it cool and can be used y to help it hover when moved. It will need much more battery juice to compensate for all the hovering. Someone else can figure out that part.

    On-topic (sorta?): Is the package going across the ocean and through customs, or should the next person have it soonish?
     
  12. ClockworkCoder

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    Overseas. It arrived at their country, but I'm not aware that they actually have it yet or not. Should be soon though hopefully.
     
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  13. comradekingu

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    The Pyra goes to Norway
    20170615_151353.jpg 20170615_152703.jpg 20170615_152819.jpg 20170615_153850.jpg PyraSHA.jpeg
     
  14. ClockworkCoder

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    The Pyra is getting more adventurous it seems :)
     
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  15. comradekingu

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    The keyboard is far better than imagined.
    It is like the 3210 keys, only with the hardness of the keys on the 3310.
    What you feel is the softness underneath, in a firm and forgiving manner.

    It is impossible to get the keys to stick. Wobble and chafering isnt an issue.
    The powerbutton is the sleekest of them all. I would prefer a layout like that, with matte background underneath.
    It seems possible with the colour/capless variant.

    The difference between the final and the worst of the historic revisions is the difference between
    takatkatkaktatka and nonononononono.

    Travel is nice, actuation is nice. I like really soft keys, and the top row is softer than the rest.

    Case inspires confidence. Lower L/R buttons sit right at the joint of the index fingers.

    Not a fan of the ribbed/knurled edges on upper L/R, F and J and the nubs, but that is easily modified.

    The +2 buttons on the buttoncluster (ins) and (del) are actually indented with regard to the <A ^Y vX >B, which works out well.

    I prefer flatter ABXY, but I cant really tell how well it will work, as they are broken here, and have been fixed in a later revision.

    Then again i prefer the shorter travel nub variants too. More ergonomy and musings tomorrow.
     
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  16. waGL

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    Awesome! :-D The Jolla just takes surprisingly good pictures.

    @comradekingu, would you take a closeup side shot of the power button? I'm interested in what the sleekest of them all looks like.
    Thanks in advance and have fun with that translucent baby :) gl
     
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  17. Grench

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    I had made a suggestion at one point that the keyboard should be translucent white material with inked letters that would 'shadow' under backlight. Having the letters glow, as in the current version, is likely a better solution as it gives better differentiation between the white and orange labels under backlighting. (Both would be 'black' under backlighting if they were opaque symbols on a translucent keymat.)

    Has anyone tried to plug in the dummy board in the sample to see if any of the lights come on? Likely would do nothing. Does the keymat review case have SD/microSD slot hardware populated in it? It would be outside of the evaluation intent, but it could be interesting to see how the slots look & feel when media is inserted/ejected?

    I know you were concerned with the usability of the keyboard for your language needs. Have you taken time for some typing exploration of the layout?
     
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  18. rygD

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    Norway thaws out? I really need to visit.
     
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  20. Grench

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    @comradekingu
    Glad to see someone with a screwdriver that isn't afraid to use it.

    I'm betting that the black marker use around the power button was to check how the power light looked with lessened light bleed?

    It looks like there is a set of 3 dip switches next to the cell modem chip - does anyone know what the different settings on it do?
     
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