Psphone Is Real!

[hosant]

"It's hard to believe that what we're looking at is real -- but we assure you, the picture above is in fact the PlayStation Phone you've long been waiting for. As we reported back in August, the device you see is headed into the market soon, likely boasting Android 3.0 (aka Gingerbread), along with a custom Sony Marketplace which will allow you to purchase and download games designed for the new platform. The device snapped up top (and in our gallery below) is sporting a 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655 (a chip similar to the one found in the G2, but 200MHz faster), 512MB of RAM, 1GB of ROM"

Source: Engadget.

 

[SNESFAN]

that's good enough for me!

if this hits the market before I get my pandora I'll have a slot for sale

 

[Phawx]

Damn, I am so happy they announced this. Though the specs seem way underpowered. Those specs are available now. Obviously, it's a prototype. But I am hoping Engadget heard wrong when they said it would be a multi-touch strip in the center instead of actual analog nubs. It seems like place holders to me.

The future is good.

 

[Nintendo]

Phawx, mate~ They had to make them touch pads, because analogue sticks would be to tall/high for it to slide close and open.

Also, I don't like it. It looks like crap, imho...just like the crap that is the PSPgo. >_>

 

[quote]

Multitouch analogs?
Phwihihiahahoohohooooooo

 

[Nintendo]

IMHO, it looks like crap (just like PSPgo...crap) and is under-powered compared to the phones that are coming out when this launches.

 

[SNESFAN]

IMHO, it looks like crap (just like PSPgo...crap) and is under-powered compared to the phones that are coming out when this launches.

well underpowered for what exactly? I have a HTC EVO and an Samsung Epic and it runs everything you throw at it just fine, all emulators (to include PSX) 3d games... smooth as hell... slow in comparison makes a phone slow not

Like I said before, I'm 100% serious about this, as long as they don't do something retarded and pull the android market for whatever reason, this has my name all over it... enough to pull me completely from the pandora. Root or no root, I'd pimp a device like this stock.

I begged and begged for android support for the pandora... nobody listened to me... I asked agian and agian... not a word... nobody was willing to work on it... only thing people said was "no point" and questioned my wanting it... well looks like I get to have my cake and eat it too, this has all the controls dpad abxy, should buttons (even analog sticks even in optical remakes) the only thing it's missing is the keyboard and that's covered by the capactive touch screen keyboard which i have to say I've gotten used to... not to mention how much faster this will be than the pandora. I have to say... I'm already a huge fan.

looks... pspgo and the mylo v2 both kinda look like this phone (mylo v1 &v2 were pretty garbage pieces of gear) I own both mylos and the psp go... they're comfortable if that's any consolation.... They don't have to look amazing (i wanted the pandora after all) it is not a fashion show, and as long as it fits well in the hand and the buttons are accessible without getting hand cramps... this will be a win. Pulling out a gadget like this and it not being an iphone... and being over the age of 8.... makes you look like a nerd. So fashion is already moot point as you're already going to be looking funny.

anyway... check out what I've dug up on the specs of this guy.

PSX emulator on G2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xfjIS4Vtn0
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this supposedly has a Qualcomm MSM8655

tech specs on Qualcomm MSM8655
http://developer.qualcomm.com/dev/development-devices/mdp8655

tech specs on Qualcomm MSM7230 (G2 proc)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7230&c=qualcomm_msm7230

G2 vs Epic
http://androidevolutions.com/2010/10/13/gpu-showdown-adreno-205-msm7230-in-htc-g2-vs-powervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/

The GPU in this guy...

Adreno 205

Adreno 205 is a relatively new GPU - Qualcomm has been sampling it since June 2010. It is included as part of Snapdragon 1.3GHz QSD8x50A, 800MHz MSM7x30 or 1GHz MSM8x55.

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Now everyone knows that HTC G2 (also known as HTC Vision, HTC Vanguard, HTC G1 Blaze and HTC Desire Z) will be the first phone to feature Snapdragon MSM7230 chipset which uses Adreno 205. Other phones to use Adreno 205 includes HTC Desire HD, HTC myTouch HD, and HTC Merge/Lexikon.

Adreno 205 features:

Hardware-accelerated SVG and Adobe Flash®
Significant improvements in shader performance over Adreno 200 GPU
Streaming textures that can combine video, camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics

Based on the early benchmark results, Adreno 205 is expected to be about four times faster than Adreno 200. Samsung's Hummingbird with PowerVR SGX540 is expected to beat Adreno 205 by a small margin, however. Still, given that nothing touches the performance of SGX540 today (that's right, iPhone 4 is not even close!), this is quite an improvement.

Interesting to note that Adreno has a hardware-accelerated support for Adobe Flash. Are we going to see much smoother movies in action on this platform?

Will Snapdragon QSD8x60 and QSD8672 use this GPU as well? Perhaps at a higher clock speed? These are dual-core chipsets running at 1.2GHz and 1.5GHz respectively. Rumored phones such as T-Mobile's HTC Glacier (also known as HTC Emerald), Verizon's HTC Scorpion and Verizon's HTC Merge are expected to use these chipsets. If we are lucky, we may get to see some of these phones during 2010.

 

[WizardStan]

I begged and begged for android support for the pandora... nobody listened to me... I asked agian and agian... not a word... nobody was willing to work on it...

Android has been shown demoed on the Pandora a couple of times already. There's a lot of people interested in getting it active as a secondary OS. It's not ready for the market en mass, but there's a lot of things about the Pandora that's still not ready simply because there aren't enough units out there. The people that have the time, skill, and motivation to work on such a thing, to get it really ready to just plug and go still don't have their Pandoras either.

only thing people said was "no point" and questioned my wanting it...

I believe we may have been reading completely different sets of threads then, because both threads that I remember were generally positive towards Android as a secondary OS. The concern people had was OPT dividing effort to the detriment of the default OS. That doesn't mean a 3rd party can't work on it. Stuckie is well on his way to getting Debian working, but look at how long he's been working on it, including the extend he had setup. Someone else is working on Gentoo, I've heard, but I haven't seen much progress.
Android on Pandora WILL happen, it's just taking a while, same with everything else about the Pandora.

well looks like I get to have my cake and eat it too, this has all the controls dpad abxy, should buttons (even analog sticks even in optical remakes) the only thing it's missing is the keyboard and that's covered by the capactive touch screen keyboard which i have to say I've gotten used to... not to mention how much faster this will be than the pandora. I have to say... I'm already a huge fan.

Sounds like it really is a better fit for you, and indeed probably for a lot of others. Assuming Sony doesn't somehow lock down the device to prevent people from running whatever they want on it (on one hand, it's Sony so of course they will, but on the other hand it's Android, so can they? hmmm) it could be very suitable for a lot of people still waiting for their Pandora.

 

[Exophase]

Whatever you think of it, one thing I know for sure is that it's going to make the Android emulators a lot more viable if you own one. That is, if they end up supporting it, and if anyone buys this phone I'm sure they will.

 

[SNESFAN]

Android has been shown demoed on the Pandora a couple of times already. There's a lot of people interested in getting it active as a secondary OS. It's not ready for the market en mass, but there's a lot of things about the Pandora that's still not ready simply because there aren't enough units out there. The people that have the time, skill, and motivation to work on such a thing, to get it really ready to just plug and go still don't have their Pandoras either.

yea I know it has, it's totally plausible and possible. I'm still waiting on a project to follow though even after all this time. Patience is a virtue I think I'm running out of after so long.

I believe we may have been reading completely different sets of threads then, because both threads that I remember were generally positive towards Android as a secondary OS. The concern people had was OPT dividing effort to the detriment of the default OS. That doesn't mean a 3rd party can't work on it. Stuckie is well on his way to getting Debian working, but look at how long he's been working on it, including the extend he had setup. Someone else is working on Gentoo, I've heard, but I haven't seen much progress.
Android on Pandora WILL happen, it's just taking a while, same with everything else about the Pandora.

the support just wasnt there other than "good idea" and people would want it... I think I might have been caught up in the whole negative feedback speaks louder than positive feedback. (same as the media effect of the news) I apologize, the subject of gaming on android excites me, and I'm just frustrated with the progress of a lot of things on the pandora. I think I'm blowing the subject out of proportion a bit to help my argument.

Sounds like it really is a better fit for you, and indeed probably for a lot of others. Assuming Sony doesn't somehow lock down the device to prevent people from running whatever they want on it (on one hand, it's Sony so of course they will, but on the other hand it's Android, so can they? hmmm) it could be very suitable for a lot of people still waiting for their Pandora.

they locked down the moto backflip for at&t, but that was at&t's doing. And that was only from sideloading software, and a fix was shortly found for it. The sony ericson android phones aren't locked down from what I'm aware of. I really can't wait to see this to be hacked and all the super sweet comercial games from sony's custom market to pop their heads up on all the android phones around the world. If they make a readily available sony market downloadable from the android market.... this could be literally a huge hit for android and sony alike.

I see nothing but great things to come from this whole thing.

@Exophase- the emulators that are out there right now allow you to map any physical button to any input for the emulator, the analog sticks might be a hurdle, but I don't know of any emulator out right now that uses analog sticks, this will probally change when zodttd releases his n64 android emulator.

 

[Exophase]

@Exophase- the emulators that are out there right now allow you to map any physical button to any input for the emulator, the analog sticks might be a hurdle, but I don't know of any emulator out right now that uses analog sticks, this will probally change when zodttd releases his n64 android emulator.

Ah, very good then.

 

[Orion4874]

Any word on which carriers will get this phone?

 

[___]

Phawx, mate~ They had to make them touch pads, because analogue sticks would be to tall/high for it to slide close and open.

Also, I don't like it. It looks like crap, imho...just like the crap that is the PSPgo. >_>

LOL... I think it's crap too. The PSPgo is an atrocity and so is this. How are you not going to get a handcramp playing this? Also: Everything will be locked down. Imagine not being able to buy ANY games 2nd hand... yes, it's going to be rather expensive to collect games then. Have you read the reviews for the pspgo? The time it takes to install games and updates is obscene.

I also never liked the psp analog nub, it always felt inaccurate like hell and made playing most games an annoyance to me, but this touchpad thingy? I would rather have analog nubs instead of that. Remember how shitty this feels on the DS? No? Get yourself Mario64 and try playing it with touch-screen control... IT SUCKS!

The idea of a phone combined with a gaming handheld is not new and it is a pretty good idea. Android paired with a giant videogaming specialist like Sony seems like a good idea at first, but I am telling you now, they will screw you. Sony always fucks with their customers. The whole PSPgo affair is a reason for me to never buy anything from Sony again. I'd rather join the iPhone douche crowd than pickup one of these...

 

[SNESFAN]

Any word on which carriers will get this phone?

the phone part of it is GSM so in america AT&T or T-Mobile, can't speak for other countries, but look for GSM support

I can try and research freqs but I'm pretty sure it's capable of all of the GSM freqs but will only have certain amplifiers installed like other multiband chips (nexus one for example)

 

[Exophase]

I don't know why people are ragging on this, how is it automatically worse than any other Android phone? It's not a gaming platform with Android tacked on, it's the other way around. It's not a PSP revision, it's not PSP2. The specs are going to be like all the other high end phones, it's not somehow obsolete. That is, if it's released in the next few months, which is what is expected.

There would have been very little incentive to design a custom platform for this, the market potential probably doesn't justify it and it'd probably use more power than would be suitable for a phone.

People hating on it just because Sony has something to do with it are being a little crazy.. blind brand aversion is about as bad as blind brand loyalty.

 

[Orion4874]

Any word on which carriers will get this phone?

the phone part of it is GSM so in america AT&T or T-Mobile, can't speak for other countries, but look for GSM support

I can try and research freqs but I'm pretty sure it's capable of all of the GSM freqs but will only have certain amplifiers installed like other multiband chips (nexus one for example)

I just hoping they don't do what Apple did and tie themselves down to one carrier. Never understood why they did that, seems like they lost out on a lot of potential buyers.

 

[SNESFAN]

I don't know why people are ragging on this, how is it automatically worse than any other Android phone? It's not a gaming platform with Android tacked on, it's the other way around. It's not a PSP revision, it's not PSP2. The specs are going to be like all the other high end phones, it's not somehow obsolete. That is, if it's released in the next few months, which is what is expected.

There would have been very little incentive to design a custom platform for this, the market potential probably doesn't justify it and it'd probably use more power than would be suitable for a phone.

People hating on it just because Sony has something to do with it are being a little crazy.. blind brand aversion is about as bad as blind brand loyalty.

even if it was, it's lightyears ahead of the psp/pspgo as far as specs and features in every way

-faster cpu/gpu
-3g modem
-capacitive touch
-haptic feedback
-accelorometer
-gps
-microsd vs pro duo propritary memory card

not going to go on an android fanboy rant, but the browser/media player/pda functions are better than what's in Sony's XMB. So taking what they already have and running it within another OS that's more open to community development and homebrew... I just can't wrap my mind around people not liking the added extra awesome. I donno.

@Orion4874- my money is that this will be landing on AT&T as the sony ericson android phone is already on AT&T and it just feels like it's something they would want exclusive rights to. I know this can't be a perfect for my needs lauch, it just seems to amazingly awesome to me... so SOMETHING has to fuck it up... AT&T locking down the phone somehow sounds like the one muphy that will be in this story.

Verizon I belive was hit up back in 2003 by apple when the iphone launched, susposedly they actually passed it up suprizingly. AT&T was next and they snagged a multi year exclusive rights deal with apple. They aparently keep renewing it... no details exist in the wild on why it's continueing, but every year there are rumors of them loosing their exclusive rights... but it never happens.

 

[dnlgreenwood]

Well, look on the brighter side. A multi-touch strip wouldn't wear out before an analog stick, would it? At least I don't think it would, and I don't like the joystick on the PSP anyway, feels too stiff and it's not in an ideal place.

 

[WizardStan]

I just hoping they don't do what Apple did and tie themselves down to one carrier. Never understood why they did that, seems like they lost out on a lot of potential buyers.

They thought they had to: their phone was way too expensive and contained way more features than anyone thought would actually be useful. Not unlike the Pandora.
The only way anyone was willing to take the chance was exclusively. No one expected the iPhone to do so well. Even Steve Jobs (I think I remember reading it was he, though it may have just been someone else high up in Apple) said they only hoped to grab just a few percent of the market share. To everyone's surprise, they took more than a few percent and have been climbing ever since, just over 25% if I remember the most recent report correctly.

 

[hosant]

But aren't Android drivers a dog for 3D gaming?