New Handheld (i Worked Hard On It So Please Read)

[pip]

Don't forget that an Eden 533Mhz is about as slow as a Pentium 200Mhz.

 

[Sadako]

Ugh, that handheld thingy does look so horrible, yellow?! How does it fold?! It looks like a chair from the 60's with buttons attached, not very attractive, I don't think I would be seen dead with one of them. And what is that about "I worked hard on it.."? I dont think you made it by the way.

 

[GiG]

Don't forget that an Eden 533Mhz is about as slow as a Pentium 200Mhz.

Don't forget the graphic chip
Anyway it is a generic "128bit", it could be NVidia ( ), ATI ( :rolleyes: ), Matrox ( ), S3 ( h34r: ), Hamsters ( :huh: )...

PSP and GBADS can be powerful machines, but they can't run decent emulated games because of shortage of RAM.





P.S.: Sadako, are you a girl or a warrior? You look pretty strong in your messages

 

[Sadako]

Um, well I am not a warrior, and you think I am strong in my messages? Usually I am not so loud..but, in previous forums I usually got blacklisted for being female, so I am acting strong, see?

 

[raven]

Don't forget that an Eden 533Mhz is about as slow as a Pentium 200Mhz.

I have a VIA Epia motherboard with this type of CPU and can tell you from my own experience that a 1ghz VIA CPU (with it's graphics chipset) does not run as fast as a 350mhz Pentium II (with ATI rage 128 pro) when it comes to gaming. These CPU's are great for office use but NOT for gaming and all benchmarks show this.

Plans for a 'console' (ApeXtreme ) based upon the VIA CPU and motherboard have already been dropped. The machine will be released but with AMD CPU's and NVIDIA chipsets instead (and for a good reason).

If this handheld would have a small firmware it might have a chance but if it also has to run XP it will not be fast enough to run even older games (I can not run a Playstation or Nintendo64 emulator on my VIA system, SNES runs but not all games run full speed - running XP without visual effects). And I don't think it will be easy to replace the OS if it is embedded.

 

[Charge]

Don't forget that an Eden 533Mhz is about as slow as a Pentium 200Mhz.

Could you please link to where you found this information as I have been searching the web for benchmarks and haven't found any that are really relevent. I have found benchmarks based on the EPIA M-10000 system with the VIA C3 Nehemiah processor, but as this is an older system compared to what is coming in the handheld I don't want to base my expectations on them.

Based on the specs given at http://www.ministrymobile.com/technology.html, I would expect this handheld to run Quake 3 reasonable well - about 30fps and it should run the majority of emulators up to the quality of PS1 emus. However, it will be quite a long way from the Sony PSP and probably similar to the Nintendo DS.

The advantages will be similar to those of the GP32, except bigger. eg large homebrew scene with lots of emus. Add to this PC emus that are not feasable for the GP32 eg MAME, WinUAE, PCSX and the old PC games collection we all probably have eg (Command & conquor, Syndicate wars, Need for speed, Carmageddon etc....) and I think it could be a winner even if you are the only person on the planet to buy one.

I does have a bad design at the moment though - hopefully it will be changed at the time of release.

 

[Sadako]

But it looks horrible, you would honestly walk around with that? It is an eye sore! It is Yellow! I mean, I guess the specs are quite good, and I would happily own one, if it did not look so repulsive.

 

[Charge]

But it looks horrible, you would honestly walk around with that? It is an eye sore! It is Yellow! I mean, I guess the specs are quite good, and I would happily own one, if it did not look so repulsive.

Well, actually I would consider it to be mostly cream, with silver buttons and a bit of yellow/orange at the top and bottom. Check this link for a pic of the mockup design (which I hope they change)

http://www.ministrymobile.com/MoMAweb-about.html

I have also read that the final version will have a detatchable controller + detatchable screen. As the mockup has neither, I am hoping it is not the final version because the shape is not practical.

 

[Sadako]

Well, it still has yellow traces, it does not suit it one bit. I agree that design is not very practical, it actually is horrendous. I see it could not fit in a pocket or a purse or a handbag, you would have to carry it around by hand, then people would SEE it..bad, bad stuff.

 

[raven]

Based on the specs given at http://www.ministrymobile.com/technology.html, I would expect this handheld to run Quake 3 reasonable well - about 30fps and it should run the majority of emulators up to the quality of PS1 emus. However, it will be quite a long way from the Sony PSP and probably similar to the Nintendo DS.

The 1ghz VIA Nehemiah does run Quake 3 at 30 fps, 640 x 480, 16 bits (reason I say it's not a gaming machine is I don't like 640x480 and I need more fps) but based upon VIA's information about the new CPU I don't think this 533mhz CPU will run as fast as the 1ghz Nehemiah.
Most specs are equal to the Epia-M motherboard so it will all depend on how the new CPU and graphics chipset compare.

 

[Charge]

Most specs are equal to the Epia-M motherboard so it will all depend on how the new CPU and graphics chipset compare.

Exactly - we will just have to go off the written specs until benchmarks come out, and don't forget, while you may not want to run PC games at 640x480 on a monitor, it is an exceptionally high res for a handheld, even more so than the Sony PSP.

 

[Sadako]

Oh. I want a Sony PSP..I wish I went to E3..then I could at least try one out!