Hi, Gene!

[WizardStan]

Fluoride is literally toxic waste and it makes the teeth and bones brittle

Your tinfoil hat is on a little too tight there.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Either way to bring this back on topic: How well does the Pyra resists fluoride? Is it fluoride proof to a depth of 2 meters? If I ever go to an American water facility then I would like to use my Pyra to take pictures and upload the pictures to my laptop through USB-C. But thanks to the protection suit I might accidentally drop my Pyra while doing so, so it would be handy if it is fluoride proof to a depth of 2 meter or more.

This is not even remotely on topic.

 

[Grench]

Raw? You didn't make a glass of wood ash lye? It would probably have still tasted terrible, though.

Yes. Just wet the toothbrush, touch the bristles to a spot of fine cool ashes, brush, rinse well. It isn't as bad as you're likely imagining.
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Ok this is going to sound a bit silly but I seem to keep wanting tech that's sounds perfectly reasonably until you try to buy it, then turns out to be rare/impossible. Currently the thing I'd most love the pyra to have (I know it doesn't have one) is a HDMI in port. I've been looking for a small (7") battery powered screen that will take HDMI. I though there would be loads of these but the only ones I can find are for cameras and are therefore quite expensive, everything else is either too big or not battery powered (often usb).

There have been several ideas for creating a second Pyra-like device using most of the parts of a Pyra. I dubbed it Pyramon or Pyratroller.

The basic idea is to have a device that looks just like a Pyra, but acts more or less as a terminal.
HDMI port receives signal, pushes it to the screen.
microUSB 3.0 OTG port becomes microUSB device only.
Internally the USB 3.0 becomes a hub.
The two rear USB 2.0 ports become hub device ports.
The front SDXC slots both become USB SDXC card readers.
The internal microSDXC slot gets to load whatever logic/OS this thing requires.
The battery acts as a device charger and supplies hub power.
The keymat shows up as a HID device attached to the USB hub.
The nubs show up as two USB joysticks. Game pads show up as a USB gamepad.

Connect it to the USB and HDMI on a computer or game console, it becomes a terminal.

Lots of uses. Drawback is it would need to cost nearly as much as a Pyra.

 

[Swordfish II]

Fluoride is literally toxic waste and it makes the teeth and bones brittle (in addition to other damage to the body). Dentists get taught to use it because it creates a good market to get rid of the abundance of fluoride. It makes marketing sense, because they can use people their bodies as toxic waste dump (most people use their bodies as toxic waste dump anyway) and they get paid for it as well. In America they really do this in a smart way because they just dump it in the drinking water and say it is medicine for people's teeth. I love to get my medicine in random doses completely independent of my size and other physical factors. That is how everyone does medicine, right?

I stopped with fluoride long ago. It is better to just make sure that the body does not get too acid because acid is what really damages the teeth. With an alkaline body your saliva will help neutralise the acid. And of course to brush the teeth without fluoride.

Oh look more of your completely devoid of facts rantings.

Flouride is good for your teeth

The beneficial effects of fluoride on human oral health are well studied. There are numerous studies demonstrating that a small amount of fluoride delivered to the oral cavity decreases the prevalence of dental decay and results in stronger teeth and bones.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5651468/

The study does say that toxicity is a concern, but the major cause is high floride toothpaste being swallowed or mouth wash/oral care products. It does not have fluoridated water as cause.

Also if you ever have salt you are being dosed with iodine. I guess you would prefer to have your teeth fall out of your head and a huge goiter. But you do you

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Ok this is going to sound a bit silly but I seem to keep wanting tech that's sounds perfectly reasonably until you try to buy it, then turns out to be rare/impossible. Currently the thing I'd most love the pyra to have (I know it doesn't have one) is a HDMI in port. I've been looking for a small (7") battery powered screen that will take HDMI. I though there would be loads of these but the only ones I can find are for cameras and are therefore quite expensive, everything else is either too big or not battery powered (often usb).

Raspberry pi screens are probably what you are looking for.

 

[Letalis Sonus]

Also if you ever have salt you are being dosed with iodine. I guess you would prefer to have your teeth fall out of your head and a huge goiter. But you do you

Did you know that smoking-induced lung cancer is actually caused by radiation? The tobacco leafs contain radioactive isotopes whose alpha rays are weak enough to be shielded by the resin of the leafs or the dead upper layers of your skin, but inhaling the smoke will directly expose your unprotected lung tissue to the radiation.

 

[Grench]

Also if you ever have salt you are being dosed with iodine. I guess you would prefer to have your teeth fall out of your head and a huge goiter. But you do you

More food for the conspiracy theorists:
An added benefit of adding Iodine to the table salt in the 1950s-1960s US is that Iodine collects in the thyroid, but the Thyroid can only collect so much. By dosing the population with non-radioactive Iodine they likely decreased the rates of Thyroid cancer by a lot. Remember, it wasn't all that long ago that the US and other countries were doing above ground nuclear detonations - and the jet stream blows all of that West to East around the globe. Though the radioactive Iodine from the blasts would have all decayed by now, no real reason to remove iodine from the salt as it does seem to have good health benefits without any real detriments.

 

[FBnil]

export NOTSERIOUS=1

need to disrupt the plaque buildup at the gum line

I use my nails for that. Can't get into the corners, but for that part I use a dental stick.

My mother think's it great to brush the teeth with salt

I do too. I use a salt-based toothpaste called Parodontax. Of course, a twig of the Neem tree is better, but I don't have that tree around here. Somebody tried

the Pyra comes with a fold out electric toothbrush but if it did

Well, you always could... you know.

they cant sealed the Pyra

Brian Hyland came up with an alternative.

Flouride is good for your teeth

Nope. When you have kids PLEASE read the disclaimer and don't use more than a pea-sized amount.. and never let them ingest the paste.
If you want to know, read up on the Nazi experiments with Fluoride...

Flouride is good for your teeth

Well, strictly speaking, you are right. But never swallow Flouride, beyond your teeth, it's bad. Of course, such a product did not exist for all mankind during the ages. And their teeth were fine, even without plastic toothbrushes! And it is because our modern diet (too much acid, sugar etc) that makes us need poisons to brush our teeth.

The tobacco leafs

And they only grab those radioactive particles due to a particular soil. So change the soil and you have non-radioactive tobacco. There was a study done, and it would be more expensive and their customers wouldn't care. So it wasn't done.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I do too. I use a salt-based toothpaste called Parodontax.

They don't list salt with the ingredients. (I'm talking about table salt. NaCl, was it?)

 

[Swordfish II]

export NOTSERIOUS=1

Nope. When you have kids PLEASE read the disclaimer and don't use more than a pea-sized amount.. and never let them ingest the paste.
If you want to know, read up on the Nazi experiments with Fluoride...


Well, strictly speaking, you are right. But never swallow Flouride, beyond your teeth, it's bad. Of course, such a product did not exist for all mankind during the ages. And their teeth were fine, even without plastic toothbrushes! And it is because our modern diet (too much acid, sugar etc) that makes us need poisons to brush our teeth.

So don't swallow which is EXACTLY what I said? Got it.

No old time teeth weren't just fine, many adults didn't have teeth, had terrible breath and had all sorts of cavities and abcesses.

It used to be that in order to join the military you needed to have 4 opposing teeth so you could rip open the prepackaged powder/wadding/ball for a musket and load it quickly. A rule that was put in place BECAUSE of the large amount of toothloss.

Teeth today are far better because of toothbrushes, floss, and yes flouride

 

[Linux-SWAT]

@Djoga'Ro
More likely sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3).

 

[FBnil]

No old time teeth weren't just fine

Look at the teeth of this Pompeii victim. I think the teeth are the only thing that is fine... (last picture)
https://www.seeker.com/pompeii-victims-bodies-revealed-in-scans-photos-1770334701.html

disclaimer: if you read the article, it will shift your view to Swordfish'es stance.

.. or this cro-magnon.

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

This is not even remotely on topic.

Indeed, because it got moved. But now the other part is on topic.

 

[FBnil]

They don't list salt with the ingredients. (I'm talking about table salt. NaCl, was it?)

Linux-Swat already replied. It is "a" salt, but not "the" salt (NaCl, that's correct).

The sodium bicarbonate you buy is manufactured using sodium chloride, or table salt, and calcium carbonate -- found in sea shells and chalk -- as the main ingredients. Sodium bicarbonate is also called baking soda, bicarbonate of soda, sodium bicarb or bicarb.

Although in a pinch, you can brush your teeth with table-salt and your finger... did that a lot when it was too late to go back home (wait for the first morning bus) and the house party died down, and all we could do is sleep a bit, help a bit with cleaning in exchange for breakfast and head back home.
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Your tinfoil hat is on a little too tight there.

Now see that is proof of evolution: our heads are getting bigger and that makes the tinfoil hat feel smaller! /KIDDING

 

[levi]

Teeth today are far better because of toothbrushes, floss, and yes flouride

Yes, teeth quality had famously declined by the time of Queen Elizabeth I in the UK, who wrecked her teeth due to her consumption of sugary treats, and the lack of toothbrushing to compensate I assume. Her reign roughly coincided with the importing of sugar into the west, and before then sugar was far less common. Before her reign, vegetables like parsnips and carrots were considered to be very sweet (indeed young carrots still taste sweet), so we had carbohydrates in the form of starches but basically no refined sugar. Now that we eat sweets, we basically need to brush our teeth with abrasive pastes (known as toothpaste) to remove the plaque that grows.

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5651468/

The study does say that toxicity is a concern, but the major cause is high floride toothpaste being swallowed or mouth wash/oral care products. It does not have fluoridated water as cause.

"Excessive ingestion of fluoride may cause toxic and harmful effects. It is important to note that the major source of fluoride toxicity remains oral hygiene products."
So oral hygiene products are a mayor source of toxicity, and since drinking fluoridated water also leads to ingesting fluoride that is likely to be a minor source of toxicity.

Cavities are caused by acid and can be prevented by having one's saliva neutralise the acid. This is what the body normally does but since most people live on junkfood their body gets too acid to do it and hence they get cavities. There is no need to put toxic waste in your mouth to prevent cavities.

And of course proper brushing without fluoride can help too.

 

[Swordfish II]

Cavities are caused by acid and can be prevented by having one's saliva neutralise the acid. This is what the body normally does but since most people live on junkfood their body gets too acid to do it and hence they get cavities. There is no need to put toxic waste in your mouth to prevent cavities.

And of course proper brushing without fluoride can help too.

Not a single thing you wrote is

1. Possible
2. Accurate or
3. Backed by anything

 

[Djoga'Ro]

@Swordfish II after claiming sth.'s not possible, saying it's also not accurate and not backed up by anything, is just making noise.
And, where's the backing for your claim?

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

Not a single thing you wrote is

1. Possible
2. Accurate or
3. Backed by anything

https://www.carefreedental.com/resources/17-nutrition/152-the-importance-of-ph-balance-in-the-mouth .And you can find much more backing of this if you wanted to. It is well-known that cavities are formed by acid and that the saliva of a healthy body keeps the mouth too alkaline for cavities. This is how nature would normally protect against cavities. But most people do not benefit from it anymore since almost nothing they eat is natural.

As for the benefits of brushing, it gets sticky foods off of your teeth. Just search online for it, sources of that fact are very abundant.

 

[levi]

@Swordfish II after claiming sth.'s not possible, saying it's also not accurate and not backed up by anything, is just making noise.
And, where's the backing for your claim?

I think we need a way to say I don't believe anything you say without having to find evidence either way.

But basically I think we've all argued this out to a kind of natural stop. Remaining opinions are unlikely to be changed by arguing more, and we've all found out where we all lie along this debate.

So, in that respect, Bye, Gene!

 

[FBnil]

So, in that respect, Bye, Gene!

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since almost nothing they eat is natural.

I've heard, for example, that our apples, due to cross-breading them, are much sweeter than they used to be. I wonder if the people who did the paleo-diet did not have to brush...
[doublepost=1263878054][/doublepost]O, and @levi, it's just a joke picture I thought would make you -at least- smile. And please feel free to keep posting in this (off)topic.