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HI I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AGREEWITH THE ORIGINAL POSTER PPL SHOULD BE MORE EWELCOMING ON THIS FORUMS AND NOT LAUGH WHEN OTHER PPL POST THINGS EVEN IF THEY R COMPLETELY STUPID
 
Please, please, calm down everyone. No one deserves to be flamed. Let's all be mature, please.

blipped4, I think the simple answer is that a game requires an entire system interpretor (a process known as emulation), while something like a movie or sound file only requires an interpretor to read that movie or sound file and play it back through your hardware. Movie and sound files are just compressed forms of raw audio (WAV/PCM) and raw video and audio (frames of BITMAPs and WAV/PCM). A game's ROM/ISO image cannot be extrapolated in a similiar matter, as everything needs to be interpreted on the fly.
 
I just want to say I build my own computers too, its not hard when all you have to do is plug stuff in and it works, i'm sorry I know nothing about programming or anything, but putting together computers is actually really simple. Doesn't take a genius.
 
Although it's not the same as emulation there is the AmigaDE (Digital Environment) player. This is an abstract layer (I suppose it's something akin to DirectX although I'm no expert) which allows you to run software on any hardware that the player supports without needing to recompile it/port it for that system.

I noticed that the AmigaDE player supports ARM processors but I couldn't find any other system requirements (not looked very hard yet). Still if Amiga Inc are serious about bringing the Amiga back into the market using a 2 prong approach (the AmigaDE and the Amiga One running AOS4) they might be interested in developing the player for the GP32 as they wish to reach as large as audience as possible and they probably realise that the people who develop for the GP32 are people who would love to get back into the Amiga scene (I know I would :) )

Hmm, might go and see what other information I can find!
 
Is that anything like High Level Emulation (which is something like recompiling or reinterpreting games in realtime, I think) or is it just because most modern OS's have a GUI and they're all ultimately based on MacOS (I assume), meaning they have relatively compatible interfaces? (ever tried loading windows 3.x apps on XP? :p)
 
It's not easy to find out any information from the official website. The forums appear to be deserted so asking questions there is probably pointless (Even if there was a relevant category to post in!).

The AmigaDe player is not compatible with any old Amiga software, as discussed earlier in this topic that would require a full emulation of the Amiga's hardware.

It appears to be an interface between that allows a generic programs to be written and run (obviously, when I say generic it has to be written for AmigaDE, just not specific to any type of hardware) within the player and then the abstract layer converts a generic request, for instance to show a sprite, to the specific code for the hardware it's running on in realtime.

I likened it to DirectX as I believe that DirectX handles generic graphics commands and converts them to the relevant hardware for the installed graphics card, same with sound etc (probably a bit simplistic but then I never really cared how it worked as long as it worked!).

So the DE player wouldn't let us play all those old Amiga classics but it would allow us to play some new cheap games that are developed.

3.x apps!! I have enough trouble running XP apps on XP! :p
 
I just thought I would add my two cents. I’m fairly new to the community, although I’ve had my GP32 for quite some time. I’ve noticed a few things about this community. At first when I got my GP32 in the mail I was so clueless. I didn’t know how it worked and I was so confused trying to get it up and running. . I was eager to get it working and in my frenzy I guess I didn’t read everything I should have. Well anyway I thought I would be lazy and so I went to the #GP32 on IRC and started asking a million questions hopeing I could get someone to walk me through everything. Looking back on it, they treated me like I was stupid and no one really helped. And honestly now, I can’t really blame them. I’ve noticed that the best thing to do is look as hard as you can in the community resources (Just type GP32 in Google) and if you still don’t find anything, then ask someone in a chat or on a board. It helps to avoid asking redundant or stupid questions.
-Luke
 
blipped4 posted on Dec 9 2003 at 09:35 PM said:
DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT COMPUTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I KNOW A FUCK LOAD MORE THAN YOU A GREW UP ON THEM I BUILD MY OWN PCS AND HAVE MYT OWN BUISNESS THANK YOU!!OBVIOUSLY YOU ALSO NEED TO DO A LITTLE GRAMMAR CHECKIN ASWELL AS BEING SO CHEEKY WHEN YOUVE JUST STARTED POSTING AND YOUR ON YOUR 25 POST!!!!!!!!!DONT GIVE ME THAT SHIT, I THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE IT ALONE IF YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING REASONABLE TOO SAY!
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Well I do apologize for the grammatical error. I was typing that message from work so I was in a hurry and somehow forgot the word "about."

I do, however, believe my comment was valid; as demonstrated by the post that followed concerning this topic.

As to which of us has a greater understanding of the inner workings of a PC and programming I would tend to believe that I have just a little bit more knowledge that you do. ;) I'm definitely no expert programmer, but I was writing programs well before you were born on my Atari 800 and later on the Atari ST (mostly BBS related software). I'm currently the Systems Analyst for USA Today for the South Midwestern United States and one of the top 5 Crystal Reports programmer for the company.

I'm sorry that I offended you, but it was hard not to comment on that one. You post was as ludicrous as saying can't we just make a blind person see by giving them cameras for eyes?
 
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Actually, by implanting a chip in a blind person's brain, scientists HAVE got a blind person to see, albeit the cameras were not in their actual eye sockets, and the resolution was only 100x100. :p

back on topic: Would it be possible to use a high speed PC to convert the commands from the ROM into commands easier for a GP32 to digest (gross oversimplification), then use this edited rom on the GP32. Or would the source code be required for this.

No offence blipped4, but you too are guilty for flaming, possibly even more so than dgnat.

My two cents (or pennies in my case):
BUILDING computers is a lot different than knowing how they WORK, and knowing how they WORK is different to knowing how the SOFTWARE RUNNING ON THEM works.
 
I find it odd how you say check your grammar, despite the fact that you had sentence errors in your remarks...
 
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