Ouch!Rico posted on Apr 19 2004 at 01:42 PM said:thebluenewt, I despise your method of debate.
*speechless*Goldeneye might have been original but it was a standard FPS, just because it's on console doesn't make it anymore than a mindless shotfest.
I didn't detect any praise in your first post! That's fair enough though - if you're more into 2D games I can see why you'd not rate the N64. I agree with your points about the lack of textures and the fact it didn't have much support from other software companies. The Genesis is a class system as well and I was lucky enough to have both. I don't have one at the moment though - a fact that I was considering rectifying but we'll see how Fgen turns out first (see how I almost made this post on topic then ).Akuma no Houkon posted on Apr 19 2004 at 07:52 AM said:Didnt I say it had a couple decent games? You yourself just agreed with me and disagreed at the same time!
Thats just not true. If I remember correctly the N64 is the 5th best selling console of all time. It was actually pretty succesful.Akuma no Houkon posted on Apr 19 2004 at 03:43 AM said:Genesis was so much better than N64, and if you compare the sales of each console I am almost 100% positive that the sales of the Genesis dwarf the N64 by a large margin.
What was Nintendo's home console when the Dreamcast was launched.......Akuma no Houkon posted on Apr 19 2004 at 05:21 PM said:Sega didnt get forced out of the console bussiness, they left of their own free will and it wasnt during the N64, it was during the first 3 months of the PS2. Which, oddly enough, Sega sold more Dreamcasts during the month of the PS2 launch than in any 5 previous months combined. To say that Sega was forced out is a complete lie, especially to say they were forced out by N64.
The sales of Dreamcast during the PS2 launch sky rocketed higher than they have ever been which made segas announcement to stop production of it even more....odd.
I dont think they were failing at all, every report that I read during that time said that they were still making bank and the PS2 launch gave them a huge boost in sales and userbase. There was a little talk, unofficially of finance problems, but Sega made public announcements invalidating these claims.declaration posted on Apr 19 2004 at 06:42 PM said:I never said that Sega's withdrawal was solely because of Nintendo, because it is blatantly obvious to anybody that is was Sony's dominance of the console market which made hardware life so difficult for Sega.
The Dreamcast was launched quite a while before the PS2, and one of the main reasons it failed was because the public had lost confidence in Sega hardware, after all the fumblings in recent years. You can say it didnt fail, but commercially and realistically it did.
I know you dont like the N64, and thats obviously fine. The only thing I wanted to clear up was you blatantly underestimating the user base of the N64. As I have already said, it was one of the biggest selling consoles with some of the biggest selling games of all time.
We do tend to have very similar debates scattered around the place.....
so 3 out of the 5 people you know have an N64? Thats 60%, not bad.Akuma no Houkon posted on Apr 19 2004 at 06:56 PM said:I have only met 3 people in my life that had an N64.
As you have probably noticed I am Anti-NewNintendo in every facet of my being.
I couldnt be more the opposite. I like experimentation within boundries, but when you completely go off on some tangent that wasnt even remotely close to the previous games (zelda for example) then all you are doing is creating a new game and slapping your francise label on it to sell.i however would be much more willing to spend my hard earned cash on a new game offering something diiferent and with new ideas than spending it on a quick SNES>GBA port.
Amen.PinkSpider posted on Apr 19 2004 at 06:58 PM said:IMO the DC and N64 where much better consoles than the PS2..
Agreedthebluenewt posted on Apr 19 2004 at 08:33 PM said:Amen.PinkSpider posted on Apr 19 2004 at 06:58 PM said:IMO the DC and N64 where much better consoles than the PS2..
I'd go even further to say that none of the current consoles have more than a handful of classic games or maybe I'm just wearing my rose-tinted specs...
You'd think so. :blink:Wolfsclaw posted on Apr 19 2004 at 05:34 PM said:now, is this a n64<->genesis thread or one about the video?