Emc Standards (fcc)


was the GP2X FCC standard? I am sure that if they don't there may be a lot of money going to them just for that test :S
 
Kloplop321 said:
was the GP2X FCC standard? I am sure that if they don't there may be a lot of money going to them just for that test :S

Yes it appears so the sticker on the back is labeled that is was done.
 
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Considering Pandora "home" is the UK, it'll probably have a CE mark. Other country marks are typically left to the importers.
 
CronoTriggerfan said:
FCC? Who cares about those bureaucratic rats? :P

This is one of the decent things government has done. It kind of important devices meet a standard and dont radiate EMC all over the place.
 
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Pickle said:
(Pandora) ...... dont radiate EMC all over the place.
WTF EMC? are you talking about electromagnetic waves? Which frequency? The LCD display will certainly emit a lot of them, in the visible spectrum frequency, and wifi and BT in invisible spectrum. :D
 
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cosurgi said:
Pickle said:
(Pandora) ...... dont radiate EMC all over the place.
WTF EMC? are you talking about electromagnetic waves? Which frequency? The LCD display will certainly emit a lot of them, in the visible spectrum frequency, and wifi and BT in invisible spectrum. :D

Yes electromagnetic waves, you dont want some part of the hardware giving off a frequency that interferes with something like the WIFI or BT. That would be a extreme example, but the point is the device should follow some rules so that theres not the potienal it would intere with other devices.

All I want to know is if testing is planned under some standard, not argue the pros and cons of EMC testing.

Update: This sums of the point of EMC testing:
Operation is subject to the following conditions:

1. The devices may not cause harmful interference, and
2. The devices must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation
 
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Bureaucratic overtake is a good thing? :lol: Look, the original FCC wasn't a bad idea in trying to contain potential hazards, but we're now talking about the FCC that's endorsing things like the Fairness Doctrine and government ratings for video games.
 
The CE mark will probably be on, as it would be unlawful to sell them without one within the EU.

Just ask craig who knows all about that after the PSP Japanese import debacle.
 
Pickle said:
Yes electromagnetic waves, you dont want some part of the hardware giving off a frequency that interferes with something like the WIFI or BT. That would be a extreme example, but the point is the device should follow
No, an extreme example would be the Pandora accidentally killing the user via reconfiguring there pace maker ( http://www.jonbarron.org/blog_published/20...er_hacking.html )


x68000 said:
Just ask craig who knows all about that after the PSP Japanese import debacle.
I thought that was simple a matter of Sony going through the courts stating there trademarks were being infringed upon, and nothing to do with CE marks?
 
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Squidge said:
Pickle said:
Yes electromagnetic waves, you dont want some part of the hardware giving off a frequency that interferes with something like the WIFI or BT. That would be a extreme example, but the point is the device should follow
No, an extreme example would be the Pandora accidentally killing the user via reconfiguring there pace maker ( http://www.jonbarron.org/blog_published/20...er_hacking.html )


Ok i give you that one :-)
 
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I remember looking into the pacemaker before and it uses a pripority equipment costing thousands of dollars. Still a high risk. Particually when world leaders (Or predisential pals) with heart problems tend to use them.
 
The FCC EMF requirements are quite important. As a ham radio operator and shortwave listener, I don't want my Pandora interfering with my stuff.
 
A rather excellent question, that we all have a general idea of what the answer is. This could very well be among the list of things the team is "waiting" for, in addition to lead times.
 
Sony Europe argued that as the Japanese import PSP's had no CE certification, for either the main unit or the PSU's, they could not be lawfully sold outside of Japan. I'm sure that along with some trademark infringement they dreamt up these were the 2 main reasons most Western retailers decided that it just wasn't worth the bother to continue selling them.
 
afaik, as long as all the (RF producing) parts of an electronic system are FCC certified, the certification for the entire system is implied.

At least, thats what i seem to remember from the openmoko development process, could be wrong though.
 
In Germany, they take this kind of stuff VERY serious. CE is important, FCC maybe to. ED can tell you more, he had to pay 5000 Euros for the Pandora CE Test and the test failed afaik for the TV Cable. There is no way to sell a device here without CE.
 
@fusion_power:

Not exactly ;) I didn't have to pay for the Pandora CE, but for the gp2x.
Devices with CE are randomly tested within the EU.

If they fail, you've got problems...
The gp2x failed when used together with the TV Out cable (it disturbs FM Radio).
In my case, I had to pay 5000 Euros (which really did hurt... that's when I created the Donate button at the archive) and I'm not allowed to sell the TV Out cable within the EU.

It's better to test before... well GPH DID test, but only without the TV Out cable... and I was the one who had to pay for it here, as I am the distributor.
 
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