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TeDaDeS
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I checked, the first reported case was in China in December 2019:
"The first human cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19, subsequently named SARS-CoV-2were first reported by officials in Wuhan City, China, in December 2019."
The official time-line reports that januari 13th was the first case outside of China, in Thailand. This sounds improbable as now earlier cases have been found outside of China.
Archived: WHO Timeline - COVID-19
31 Dec 2019China reported a cluster of cases of in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified.1 January 2020WHO had set up the IMST (Incident Management Support Team) across the three levels of the organization: headquarters, regional headquarters and country level...
levi
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Fixed that for you. HTH
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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It's "COVID-19" and not "Covid 19". But calling it "Chinese Virus" gets much more fun reactions out of some people.
TeDaDeS
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That would be confusing as H2N2, SARS and H7N9 also originated from China.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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So is "Corona" but that does not stop anyone from calling it that.
But I agree with you. We should just use it's proper name —i.e. "The China Virus"— so as to distinguish it from the regular run-of-the-mill Chinese viruses.
June 13 (reuters): Astrazeneca to supply Europe with up to 400 million (half of EU population; 100% of Western Europe) doses of Oxford University's vaccine at no profit. (when finally available, after rushing it, because their time is short)
note the "At no Profit", it means they get paid through other channels.
www.reuters.com
Also Johnson & Johnson (the friendly company that added asbestos to baby formula) also has scored some contracts.
nypost.com
I remember in the past (during the birdflu pandemic), companies made 8 euro per flushot. So if the target is all Europ's population, well, that's $$$ ka-tjing! (It's just tax money)
Netherlands news: BLM protests are greenlighted (imported/foreign problems trauma; but no protest for HongKong police brutality victims, they probably matter less), Freedom protests (against the new regulations to be approved soon) are redlighted. (because, hey, corona _chooses_ who to infect.)
note the "At no Profit", it means they get paid through other channels.
AstraZeneca agrees to supply Europe with 400 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine
AstraZeneca Plc has signed a contract with European governments to supply the region with its potential vaccine against the coronavirus, the British drugmaker's latest deal to pledge its drug to help combat the pandemic.
www.reuters.com
Also Johnson & Johnson (the friendly company that added asbestos to baby formula) also has scored some contracts.
Johnson & Johnson will have 600-800 million coronavirus vaccines by 2021
Johnson & Johnson says it aims to have more than half a billion coronavirus vaccines ready early next year. The pharmaceutical giant will have 600 million to 800 million vaccines available in e…
nypost.com
I remember in the past (during the birdflu pandemic), companies made 8 euro per flushot. So if the target is all Europ's population, well, that's $$$ ka-tjing! (It's just tax money)
Netherlands news: BLM protests are greenlighted (imported/foreign problems trauma; but no protest for HongKong police brutality victims, they probably matter less), Freedom protests (against the new regulations to be approved soon) are redlighted. (because, hey, corona _chooses_ who to infect.)
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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With most medicine you at least get warned for the side effects, but with vaccines all that you hear is "it's safe and effective. it's safe and effective. it's safe and effective. it's safe and effective". Yet for something that's "safe and effective", vaccine manufacturers went through a lot of trouble to make themselves exempt of liability in the case that their vaccines turn out to not be safe. They require us to have more faith in the safety of their vaccines that they themselves have.
That reminds me of the time when I still let my dentist take X-Ray photo's of my teeth. I thought that it was safe to have the X-Ray machine aimed at point-black range at my head because I trusted my dentist to not use something dangerous or harmful on me. Meanwhile, my dentist was hiding behind a special wall that blocks X-Rays.
It also makes me think of fluoride in drinking water. Supposedly it's safe to let Americans drink fluoride in random doses from the drinking water but whenever drinking water companies have to work with fluoride they put on their hazmat suit.
Things like this are pretty common. Speaking of Common, Bill Gates was one of the biggest proponents to have American children be educated according to Common Core, yet he himself refused to put his own children on Common Core. "Common Core is great, just trust the guy who refuses to put his own children on Common Core on that".
That reminds me of the time when I still let my dentist take X-Ray photo's of my teeth. I thought that it was safe to have the X-Ray machine aimed at point-black range at my head because I trusted my dentist to not use something dangerous or harmful on me. Meanwhile, my dentist was hiding behind a special wall that blocks X-Rays.
It also makes me think of fluoride in drinking water. Supposedly it's safe to let Americans drink fluoride in random doses from the drinking water but whenever drinking water companies have to work with fluoride they put on their hazmat suit.
Things like this are pretty common. Speaking of Common, Bill Gates was one of the biggest proponents to have American children be educated according to Common Core, yet he himself refused to put his own children on Common Core. "Common Core is great, just trust the guy who refuses to put his own children on Common Core on that".
Why would anyone buy baby formula? Women have the best baby formula that they can get coming out of their tits for free whenever they get a baby.
... because baby formula got electrolytes, it's what babies crave.
Also: Defective woman that do not produce enough milk when they have kids after their 40ties. Or incompetent husbands that are too lazy to earn enough money so the wife can stay at home instead of having to work to get that new Iphone.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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Bananas contain a lot of electrolytes too. Personally if I had a baby and human milk was not an option then I'd probably just fall back on smoothies and mashed bananas.
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Ok come on dude.
1. There was some microscopic amount of asbestos in baby POWDER, not formula.
2. Baby powder has been used for 50+ years with no decernable issues.
3. It was a result of manufacturing, not intentionally put there.
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The reason is the same in both cases.
Concentration
You maybe get one xray a year. Your dentist xrays many patients every year. One exposure is not dangerous. Thousands can increase cancer risk. You won't ever get that many, your dentist will unless shielded.
Floride going into the water supply is concentrated. Floride in the water is not concentrated.
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ible
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we killed off polio with vaccines, and almost got rid of measles... science is not faith.
the dose makes the poison. dentists do many more tests than you do, since they don't just zap you every year, they also X-ray others. you also get lead shielding for your junk.
not every rock hides a conspiracy.
don't be an a-hole. not all women lactate easily, and not all of them have a pleasant experience breast feeding. they already feel pressure to do "what's best", but formula is actually a life saver in those cases. our kids are turning out fine, within plus or minus sigma
what pressure to exclusively breastfeed can do:
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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Faith in scientists is not science. If they do not trust their own vaccines enough to carry liability then I do not trust it enough either. No matter how many scientists they pay to tell me it's safe. Especially not since my family has had very bad experiences with vaccines, including a nephew getting autism from it. Parroting industry payed scientists is fun until you're the victim.
Of course I've thought about that. But I prefer to not get any poison at all. Especially if it's just for preventive measures. I do not need it so why take the risk?
No need to throw around insults. I'm not pressuring anyone to do anything. As far as I'm concerned you take all the vaccines, X-Ray photo's and baby formula that you want.don't be an a-hole. not all women lactate easily, and not all of them have a pleasant experience breast feeding. they already feel pressure to do "what's best", but formula is actually a life saver in those cases. our kids are turning out fine, within plus or minus sigma
what pressure to exclusively breastfeed can do:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hu...upplementation_l_5dd401f0e4b0d6f02fa58c58/amp
levi
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We're getting there, but I'd say we're not quite there yet. Part of the problem is loonies like we have here not believing the vaccines are good for you.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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Do not blame me, I'm the healthiest guy I know.
JDTAY
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99% of us don't have enough knowledge of any particular vaccine to declare it safe or unsafe. Faith, or rather trust, is indeed involved.
I still take my shots, but I gotta admit, my trust has been wearing thin recently too.
I still take my shots, but I gotta admit, my trust has been wearing thin recently too.
ible
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vaccines don't cause autism, but that seems like a reasonable scapegoat for a complex problem. it's easier to blame something you can control than things you can't.
words have consequences. by rejecting the science and not being skeptical of the skeptics, you are making the world a more dangerous place. these subjects (xrays, breast feeding, floride, and autism) are not on topic, btw, and your original post was demeaning towards women. should we see who would get mod's approval?
TeDaDeS
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A lot of things have gotten much more complex over the years.
I've seen people fix their cars which isn't really possible nowadays. I use to be able to fix a computer, but have ever tried soldering a part on a smartphone?
For me the current situation feels the same. The whole covid-19 situation changed almost everything.
And before this happened we had already had discussion about if the world was really round, if vaccinations are good and if people really went to the moon.
It's hard do distinguish between real and fake compared to partial or biased information, who do you trust?
This feels like it use to be simpler.
Privatization of government tasks lead to choices based on profit and not on public well being. The whole covid-19 situation appears to really show these extremes.
And what use to be unimaginable now might not sound that strange anymore. This year a lot has happened that doesn't appear to be right.
Is this all some cruel plan with miss-information to have everyone confused, or are these just effects from social media giving different ideas a platform.
Worst trends appears to be that people don't believe science is real. I can image you don't trust corporations, but not science itself.
I've seen people fix their cars which isn't really possible nowadays. I use to be able to fix a computer, but have ever tried soldering a part on a smartphone?
For me the current situation feels the same. The whole covid-19 situation changed almost everything.
And before this happened we had already had discussion about if the world was really round, if vaccinations are good and if people really went to the moon.
It's hard do distinguish between real and fake compared to partial or biased information, who do you trust?
This feels like it use to be simpler.
Privatization of government tasks lead to choices based on profit and not on public well being. The whole covid-19 situation appears to really show these extremes.
And what use to be unimaginable now might not sound that strange anymore. This year a lot has happened that doesn't appear to be right.
Is this all some cruel plan with miss-information to have everyone confused, or are these just effects from social media giving different ideas a platform.
Worst trends appears to be that people don't believe science is real. I can image you don't trust corporations, but not science itself.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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Especially since his behaviour changed drastically right after the vaccine.
I admit that I went a bit off-topic with that post. Sorry for that. I definitely should not have mentioned many of those things.
Vaccines however are ontopic because there are going to be COVID-19 vaccines and that's a big COVID-19 related deal.
It was not. There's nothing demeaning about breastfeeding. It's natural, healthy for the baby, and allows the mother to show her love for the baby and bond with the baby. I'm glad for women who have the privilege to be able to breastfeed their babies and I'm also glad for the babies who receive such care. I'm also not blaming mothers who lack the ability to breastfeed their babies. I just asked a question and you're reading way too much in it.
okay okay...The baddies are everywhere, from healthy companies that get taken over, then forced sell their shop, and rent it month after month for the shareholders to get a quick buck (HEMA - Netherlands).
As far as vaccines go, the trend is that contaminated vaccines are not destroyed, they are sold to third world countries. Even recent covid tests were pre-contaminated with covid, giving always a + result.
Then we see what the WHO/Unicef has done in India:
“Virtually all cases in recent years have occurred in children who’ve received four doses of the vaccine, and nearly half [were] in children who have received 10 doses,” said Thekekara Jacob John, a virologist formerly with the Christian Medical College in Vellore, Tamil Nadu.
source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570019/
And so says Reuters:
WHO plays down risk to Indian children from tainted polio vaccine
The World Health Organisation (WHO) said on Monday that there was minimal risk of children contracting the polio virus in India from a tainted batch of vaccines.
www.reuters.com
But here, it's all nice and good and problems totally omitted:
Now some want you to believe that the vaccine is "ineffective", however, the government of India insists that their studies show that Indian kids get Polio due to the vaccine (which means it contains life polio strains).
... and you get the same picture as with the HEMA: Shareholders just want huge earnings, not what's best for mankind.
So I fear that the first generation of vaccines against covid will be the same as software in 2020: They fired all the testers to make it cheaper, so the users are the testers.
Well, often those corporations fund the science, and if you produce non-expected results, you are out, and your conclusions send to /dev/null.
Example: the 16 studies that smoking was not detrimental to health. (and it isn't, really; it's the fertilizer they use on tobaccoplants that produces the polonium)
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