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I think I'm going to regret not getting one too... trouble was I barely squeezed the cash to buy just the Pandora. :angry: Well, hopefully it will become easier to purchase in the future.

I'm not saying that general computing devices have a longer lifespan. I'm saying that as a portable game console, which already will have a long lifespan... the fact that it can do many other general computing tasks will make it more of a "keeper" for some people. But the point was that...

I don't think that's even a valid worry. The PSP and DS have been selling for years now and are SERIOUSELY outdated in terms of technical specs. This system is far more powerful than either of those systems, AND it will have more longevity simply because it's more of a general computing...

I put "no" at first, but I'm going to say i'd be interested if: 1. a case that could house a hard drive 2. Had a built in USB hub 3. TV out would do for me

I was thinking the DIY version would just be the not yet assembled parts thrown into a brown box or something... no special preparations required :) I mean, anything to get my pandora sooner than later :)

Hi, I'm a relevant post This is the first I've read this thread and I really hope that craigx and gang make a DIY option available early! I would love to put it together myself!

@dflem: If nothing else, you've helped me to feel a little more optimistic that Pandora will look and feel nice out of the box... and maybe my obsession with Android for the sake of streamlining UI would really be solving a problem that won't exist. I'm sure that I'll be running Android just...

Yah, I get all that. I do understand how all of this works. I think you're convoluting the conversation with some slightly unrelated garbage. The point is, most likely, on a device of this nature, you'd have to compile most of the codecs in to native byte code, and often with assembly...

That's why I brought it up ??? I'm not talking about interfacing to C (and assembly) code just for the heck of it! The whole point is that there are certain large code bases out there that do things that need native code and often times assembly code to do what they do efficiently. And, I...

Another aside with regard to your mentioning QT... I suppose once I have the Pandora in my hand and I'm using this stuff, I might find that the way it is is fine for me, and no sense in making a lot of effort to port emu's and other toys to android just to have a nice UI experience. I have...

Thanks dflem, I wasn't aware of that until recently. My main hope was that there was a way to do this, and that it would make porting things like emulators and maybe parts of ffmpeg a little more feasible. I guess I'm sort of a UI purist and the multiple toolkits in Linux desktops have...

So, after some research I've found some interesting things on the Android front: 1. One *CAN* indeed mix native code AND make use of Android's Java based UI frameworks. It is done by making what they term a "Platform Library". It requires building a native library using some tools and...

@paddy: You've brought about an interesting conversation. However, I think you need to revisit some lessons regarding run-on-sentences and how they might make you appear to others. +1 That's exactly it. Developers get to pound away and exchange tricks and methods for juicing as much...

That's my understanding as well, but I must say that the Pandora developers could make this more clear. I've seen the menu system, and I've seen Angstrom running but it would be hard to tell at this point what the actual user experience is like. Probably the reason we don't have a clearer...

Sorry, I couldn't leave this alone. @Trevsweb: N810 and N800 are not phones. They are PMP/Internet tablets. @lingenfr: I'd say that Toshiba Libretto U105 netbook is much less comparable to the Pandora than N810/N800 The Pandora is fairly closely related to N810 internally as it is...

The quote should have more accurately read "UI elements and transitions appropriate for a mobile device". Well, if I defined what I really think about this a little more, fluid UI transitions are not what makes a mobile device more usable but having appropriately sized and functioning UI...

Totally agree. It won't be a deal breaker for me since it *IS* a much more open system. But I do think UI will suffer a bit in Pandora due to using X Windows and not enforcing standardized UI elements and transitions appropriate for a mobile device. That's why I'm hoping that the Android...

Personally, I could care less about the slight misalignment of the characters :) I think the epoxy keymat looks really great as is!

You know, I like to think I'm pretty open to new devices... but it amazes me that this 1Ghz handset seems to have slightly not-smooth animated transitions. I guess it must be WinMo that's the issue. Granted, no handset has really matched the iPhone's ui fluidity, but some have come pretty...

I think he just chose the wrong word, "fantasy". That's a bit extreme for this situation since much of the system has been prototyped and working for quite some time. I think what a lot of people misunderstand is the spirit of this system (The Pandora). If you were waiting on an N810...