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imo, you can't say you hate politicians unless you're actively engaged in voting for the people you like...
 
imo, you can't say you hate politicians unless you're actively engaged in voting for the people you like...

Show me a sane, rational, highly qualified both domestically (held prior office) and internationally (ambassador, work abroad, etc) who is willing. Then, since they're non-controversial, figure out how to get them any press coverage that doesn't sound like tepid tap water.
 
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imo, you can't say you hate politicians unless you're actively engaged in voting for the people you like...
The first problem with that is the people that would be voted for with that line of thinking would not be interested in the whole politics game and would likely get only a single vote.
The second is, I do.

That second one is far more complicated than it sounds, and as this has already been a conversation I want little to do with, I won't be going into detail about it.

Show me a sane, rational, highly qualified both domestically (held prior office) and internationally (ambassador, work abroad, etc) who is willing. Then, since they're non-controversial, figure out how to get them any press coverage that doesn't sound like tepid tap water.
So if you manage to get them campaign funds and coverage and do everything for them to get them elected, and they aren't willing, what happens? This must have happened somewhere, even if it is only a low level local office (which may mean a totally different situation than someone elected against their will to a federal office), right?

We need to try to get someone elected that doesn't want to do any of this stuff. I will vote for them.
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Quiet, you! Can't you see we aren't talking politics.
 
So if you manage to get them campaign funds and coverage and do everything for them to get them elected, and they aren't willing, what happens? This must have happened somewhere, even if it is only a low level local office (which may mean a totally different situation than someone elected against their will to a federal office), right?
So - I had this odd idea for a somewhat dystopian SciFi novel along the lines of Foundation meets Idiocracy.

All local public office positions were to be decided by lottery and service was compulsory and to be served until voted OUT of office whereon a new persons name would be drawn. All positions were then compensated at 400% of poverty level.

Of the people who survived 4 years at the local level without being voted out of office, a random drawing would promote them to state legislatures, compensated at 500% of the poverty level.

Of the people who survived 4 years at the state legislature level without being voted out, they would be eligible for state Governor, ambassador or national legislative lottery drawings at 600% of the poverty level.

Of the people who survived 4 years of Governor or national legislative level without being voted out, they would be eligible for lottery for President, VP, speaker of the house type roles at 700-1000% of the poverty level.

The basic theories being that a properly organized government with proper checks and balances can survive buffoons most at the lowest levels and the random nature of appointment entirely removes the party systems from the electoral cycle.

I was going to make the story's protagonist be a person who absolutely had no interest in politics or public service but did such a good job that nobody would vote him out of office. Unwilling to do a bad job due to some inexplicable moral code, his own attempts at campaigning to get un-elected from office continue to fail as he continues to get randomly promoted to higher positions.

I could never figure out what the antagonist would look like in that story though. It would not be much of a story if there isn't anything bad to overcome.
 
@Grench Interesting. Sounds like a good novel. Your antagonist is the system, the stuff he encounters while in office (make it eventful), and his own moral standing. I can relate to that bit about not wanting to play the game, but refusing to intentionally do a shitty job with whatever comes up (and getting recognized for doing good).

When you get your Pyra get started on that novel.
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I hate politicians, especially career politicians.
 
We should all learn Ithkuil and then make it this forum's lingua franca. Wonder where to get the font, though.
Oh dear. Ithkuil. Not even John Quijada is fluent.

There is an easier alternative: Lojban. It doesn't try to resolve semantic ambiguity, just grammatical and thus is a lot more practical.

coi do .i mi'e la kain .i xu do se bangu lo jbobau
 
Oh dear. Ithkuil. Not even John Quijada is fluent.

There is an easier alternative: Lojban. It doesn't try to resolve semantic ambiguity, just grammatical and thus is a lot more practical.

coi do .i mi'e la kain .i xu do se bangu lo jbobau
Lojban seems nice, too. So we all learn Lojban, and then try to teach each other Ithkuil in Lojban? :)
 
I dont have prejudices. Only politicans have prejudices.
 
Ok, let's take a step back. We were discussing Klingon first, so that should be the common language here.

If that doesn't work I can try to learn German, but there would be a lot of posts by me that are a less understandable German version of English posts by @matzesu (no offense intended, I understand him fine most of the time).
 
True, he sounds completely different if you read his German. That said, Mein Deutsch ist in keiner fall so gut wie sein Englisch.

I have a lot of respect for people in general who do their best to speak/write in a non-native language.
So if I have to choose between a bit awkward English or not having Matzesu around then I would choose for his English any time.
Easiest choice ever.
 
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