What Would You Say If...

[frolik]

after following all these observations I feel like making my own....

The GP32 has a very 'disposable' life for single games, for example, you'll play through a couple of levels of one game and move onto the next, forgetting the old game. There are occasionally games that will distract you for longer periods of time, but generally, the life-span of an "arcade" style game is pretty short - and there's plenty of choice

The point I'm trying to make here, is that if someone releases a file launcher/firmware/emulator they will get far more use from the masses and therefore produce more attention & feedback than a single homebrew game, no matter how good it is.

Also there have been various game betas that we have been actively involved in the production of, and the author would have a large presence on this forum asking for ideas and releasing updated betas, inducing more attention and feedback. When Giana's Return was released, it was a well polished and very much complete game that had already gone through scrutiny from the testers, and no previous betas were released. So what you got was one looong thread with lots of gratitude but not so much constructive feedback - after all, we're not used to homebrew at this high-quality!

If you want to develop a game to your own personal design from start to finish and not release any previews, that is totally cool, but you will miss out on many ideas and views from others as there's not as much creativity you can add to a completed product

 

[kotd]

@kojote ok ok but I still have a right not to give feedback. Its a volountary thing. Coding for the GP32 is also a voluontary thing so why should feedback be different. Also I have not seen any other person complain PUBLICLY about this except for you. If there is someone else than they should have posted on the forum that they need more feedback. Leaving the scene in a pissed off manner is very childish. Especially when no one knows why.

 

[spray]

so has aquafish now actually left?

 

[look]

This is my last post in this topic.

I'd recommend that everyone else refrain from posting as its a load of self righteous bollocks.

everyone has my permission to go play or develop what ever game they want for the rest of the day.

 

[DaveC]

so has aquafish now actually left?

I doubt he has left the scene, but I do think he has left this board. I like his FW and such but I guess he got tired of the whiners and flamers here.

 

[thebluenewt]

so has aquafish now actually left?

I doubt he has left the scene, but I do think he has left this board. I like his FW and such but I guess he got tired of the whiners and flamers here.

No, everyone didn't agree with him so he took his ball and went home.

 

[spray]

so has aquafish now actually left?

I doubt he has left the scene, but I do think he has left this board. I like his FW and such but I guess he got tired of the whiners and flamers here.

No, everyone didn't agree with him so he took his ball and went home.

balls you say??

hmmm, didn't notice them.

 

[Esn]

The GP32 has a very 'disposable' life for single games, for example, you'll play through a couple of levels of one game and move onto the next, forgetting the old game. There are occasionally games that will distract you for longer periods of time, but generally, the life-span of an "arcade" style game is pretty short - and there's plenty of choice

The point I'm trying to make here, is that if someone releases a file launcher/firmware/emulator they will get far more use from the masses and therefore produce more attention & feedback than a single homebrew game, no matter how good it is.

VERY true. I think that some games that are out there (like Gianas Return) need to get a lot more exposure than they do.

Something that would remedy this perhaps is a page that shows people the best HOMEBREW games for the GP32 for a specific genre, with user ratings as well. Think IGN or Gamespot.

If that happened, maybe people would pay more attention to finished products rather than half-done, unfinishable coding entries.

A lot of good games are mostly forgotten nowadays because they are relegated to a single space along with all of the other download entries on websites; people who come across them have no way of telling if the game is good or bad.

I think that another "compatability list for emulator X"-like website should be started, but for GP32 Homebrew games. With screenshots, of course.

Edit: Hey, I think I'll post this in the ideas forum...

 

[don]

Something that would remedy this perhaps is a page that shows people the best HOMEBREW games for the GP32 for a specific genre, with user ratings as well. Think IGN or Gamespot.

This is actually a DAMN good idea.

 

[Friar]

Every community has this problem,
as they get larger more questions are asked,
the same questions are answered repeatedly.
People get tired of reading the same question and snap at the new user.
new user gets a false impression of the locals, troll wars begin.
most threads become useless copycat babble,
experienced devs move on to there next thing due to the seemingly large increase of 11 year old arguments.

small communities are defensive as they get larger +Jackass gets whapped on the badwagon too.

Don't bother listening to half of the shit thats spread its mainly done by some impatient basts that love the gp32 but cant wait for the software, so they write threads hoping to scare devs into releasing something faster than usual.

allthough devs should understand, the crap that they read here only accounts for a proportion of the community, most of us are chuffed to bits with the gp32 and anything that is coded by them.

Positive feedback is good, constructive critisim is even better. It may seem no one is ever happy with what is made but generally all they are trying to do it help you make it better, oh.. and if there in it for the positive feedback alone, whats the point?

in the end just chill and carry on doing what you enjoy h34r:

 

[Charge]

[EDIT]
Let me add another of my quotes which is important:

I am not obsessed to get feedback and I am really not keen on praise. Feedback can be either good or either bad. Both is more than appreciated. The problem is that NOONE is giving feedback. [...] Feedback takes less than half a minute and makes everyone happy, yes even WORSE feedback will make happy, because IT IS feedback.

I can see where you are coming from with this topic, people should give more feedback than they do. The thing is that if somthing is good then people usually don't say a thing, people only give feedback if there is a problem or the product isn't good.

What this boils down to is that whatever app you were talking about is probably pretty damn good with very few bugs/problems, which is pretty good in my opinion.

 

[DaveC]

The GP32 has a very 'disposable' life for single games, for example, you'll play through a couple of levels of one game and move onto the next, forgetting the old game. There are occasionally games that will distract you for longer periods of time, but generally, the life-span of an "arcade" style game is pretty short - and there's plenty of choice

The point I'm trying to make here, is that if someone releases a file launcher/firmware/emulator they will get far more use from the masses and therefore produce more attention & feedback than a single homebrew game, no matter how good it is.

VERY true. I think that some games that are out there (like Gianas Return) need to get a lot more exposure than they do.

Something that would remedy this perhaps is a page that shows people the best HOMEBREW games for the GP32 for a specific genre, with user ratings as well. Think IGN or Gamespot.

If that happened, maybe people would pay more attention to finished products rather than half-done, unfinishable coding entries.

A lot of good games are mostly forgotten nowadays because they are relegated to a single space along with all of the other download entries on websites; people who come across them have no way of telling if the game is good or bad.

I think that another "compatability list for emulator X"-like website should be started, but for GP32 Homebrew games. With screenshots, of course.

Edit: Hey, I think I'll post this in the ideas forum...

That is true I know for me. I went to many sites that have alot of homebrew and there is so much that it would take WAY too much time to download all of it and mine for the few gems that are there. There is just too much half-done, and/or dodgy stuff to go through. If there was a brief description, a screenshot or two and a rating for each one it would make things much easier.

 

[frolik]

Something that would remedy this perhaps is a page that shows people the best HOMEBREW games for the GP32 for a specific genre, with user ratings as well. Think IGN or Gamespot.

This is actually a DAMN good idea.

I totally agree, it's what PDROMS should be really, but it covers so much that it would be difficult to add so much content for ALL systems it covers.

a site with detail on each game, classified, user rankings/reviews it could be a major saving grace for the gp32 and homebrew devs

gp32world.co.uk seems to be getting more content these days, I wonder if crazeeplaya would consider something like this

 

[CrazyDesi]

so has aquafish now actually left?

I liked aquafish to a point. He didn't act stupid like some unmentionable people. I hope he didn't leave the whole scene. Gp32War was good game.

 

[Esn]

Well, I posted on the GP32World.co.uk forum about this.

We'll see if anything comes of it. He said it was a very good idea, though, so I'm optimistic.

 

[frolik]

cool, I hope something get's off the ground with it. if anyone wants to help/encourage, check the link

http://www.gp32world.co.uk/index.php?name=...=viewtopic&t=79

 

[Dolfhin]

Don't forgot this board is just the top of the Gp32 community i know several people that love their GP32 and many home-brew games but don't post on this board.
Also their are a lot of people that don't post here so often but love the home-brew stuff.

As for emulator I have a load of SMS roms and some GBC roms but I spend way more time on other programs. We have Doom, Giana Sister Remake (it made me buy the original game ), GpWar, GpFinalWar, Bor and way to much others. It's quite easy to spend time on emulated games but many of the home-brew games are as good as commercial games.
I love it to browse Gp32x/Gp32spain and see what for great games you can find by just browsing around!

btw : as far as i know aquafish hasn't left the scene but the lost the source of GpWar in a HDD crash and that's why he hasn't updated it.

 

[Esn]

Isn't there some way to recover files from a hardware crash? :huh: