What programming language should I use
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Why is that?
ok fine it's a bold statement
but on my zaurus back in my youth
java sucked because of memory greed
c++ took ages to compile
the interpreted work flow suits such a device
Peixinho
Still Fresh
I use a raspberry pi to compile my c++ projects and I think its good enough, so the pyra should be much better on that, Im pretty sure
elvissteinjr
Very Active Member
The compile time negligible if the resulting code runs fast. C++ is fine, imo.
code::blocks?
I prefer little overlap between portables and desktops
so you don't compare the two as much
and don't develope a preference
on pyra I'll do only scripty hacks
and games that don't work well on the rpi
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are you by any chance not a developer?
slaeshjag
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I prefer my code to not run like garbage
Peixinho
Still Fresh
I use make directly, so its compilation onlycode::blocks?
I prefer little overlap between portables and desktops
so you don't compare the two as much
and don't develope a preference
on pyra I'll do only scripty hacks
and games that don't work well on the rpi
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are you by any chance not a developer?
rygD
Nihilistic Mystic
So I should start off with C then?
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
If you want to go all the way back in the C++ line, you should probably start with BCPL (the 'Before C Programming Language'). I just found and compiled a BCPL compiler on Linux while writing this comment, so it should be possible to do that on Pandora, Pyra or whatever too.
elvissteinjr
Very Active Member
are you by any chance not a developer?
I am a developer, though it may depend on what you think a real developer is. I'm not a doing it as a job, if that's what you're after.
I've already compiled and run my code on the Pyra and it runs just fine.
I'm still genuinely curious what you'd recommend everyone to use instead. Some actual arguments instead of a cool smiley face would be great.
Dark Pulse
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Come on, guys. We all know the best programing language on the Pyra will be Brainfuck.
How can you beat a "Hello World" program of:
Only competition, IMO, would be LOLCODE.
How can you beat a "Hello World" program of:
Code:
++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.Only competition, IMO, would be LOLCODE.
Code:
HAI 1.0
CAN HAS STDIO?
I HAS A VAR
IM IN YR LOOP
UP VAR!!1
VISIBLE VAR
IZ VAR BIGGER THAN 10? KTHX
IM OUTTA YR LOOP
KTHXBYE
Caine
Hardcore Member
There can be only LISP.
yes
if you just want to build things maybe a high level language with a lot of libraries might be better.
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sorry for being unclear:
in experience on the zaurus (another clamshell) I much preferred coding interpreted (ie: scripting) languages.
reason is compilation took too long.
I taught myself ruby on the train to my parents house.
also hacked perl and c (which compiles fast).
if you want a first language suggestion from me it would be python for sure.
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c is an excellent choice if your objective is to learn about computers at a low level.
if you just want to build things maybe a high level language with a lot of libraries might be better.
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sorry for being unclear:
in experience on the zaurus (another clamshell) I much preferred coding interpreted (ie: scripting) languages.
reason is compilation took too long.
I taught myself ruby on the train to my parents house.
also hacked perl and c (which compiles fast).
if you want a first language suggestion from me it would be python for sure.
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I had a scheme interpreter too!
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explicit deallocation ftwI prefer my code to not run like garbage
sebt3
homebrew player (P. & C.)
On the pandora/pyra :
C for everything low-level, C++ for everything else
C for everything low-level, C++ for everything else
And so you prefered to put the slowness on your users ? "cool bro"
Cross-compilation or distcc anyone ?
ptitSeb
Serial Porter
C++ is slower than C to compile, sure. But you only feel it on large, multi-dev project. You don't feel any slowiness on single-man project size. And that on Pandora, so on Pyra, you just wont feel it...
the question was: which language to use to learn programming on the pyra.
on the pyra
I felt it on small toy projects.
iirc c++ was ~10x slower than c, probably due in no small part to my use of stl.
and yes, i tried a bunch of tricks: -0, -pipe, many compilation units..
While I agree there are very small files in freeorion (ironically the script parser files) that literally take gigs of RAM and minutes to compile. I haven't checked whether that is the fault of boost or the fault of the boost user, but obviously it is very easy even for a single person to create code that isn't fun to compile in C++ compared to other C like dialects.
Letalis Sonus
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Welcome to the dependency hell, there's enough libs for everyone! You want some IO helper functions for your console program? Let me smash the Qt Framework into you face!
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