I don't know exactly what the difference between almost playable and full speed is since the former is so subjective, but I expect that means it needs to be at least 2x faster. Expecting 2x single threaded performance improvement in mobile CPUs within one year from now is naive.
Hey, it's EssoAir who's talking here so it's not like we don't know how reliable his claims are.
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How ?
By the power of wishful thinking.
Have you seen some of the videos of current hardware running the games?Hey, it's EssoAir who's talking here so it's not like we don't know how reliable his claims are.
Its been almost a year now, actually. iirc it was February 2013 when Sonic made his first build.
It's not that playable in that video.Have you seen some of the videos of current hardware running the games?Hey, it's EssoAir who's talking here so it's not like we don't know how reliable his claims are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UzBCKnWy0I
Im aware its not, but its imo really close. Sonic has said on IRC that the only thing that prevents it from making significant strides in speed is the time he has. he's quite busy with his job and so cant dedicate much time to development work.It's not that playable in that video.Have you seen some of the videos of current hardware running the games?Hey, it's EssoAir who's talking here so it's not like we don't know how reliable his claims are.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UzBCKnWy0I
It's not really close. When a few karts start appearing on-screen it grinds to a halt. Those performance videos showing time trial runs with no other racers are very misleading. In other words, yes, you can find games that run okay under low CPU pressure situations. Maybe there are some games that are always very CPU light, there are always games like that. But that shouldn't warrant blanket statements about things being fullspeed.
What does significant strides mean exactly, do you know? It could be 10% performance. If I increased average recompiler performance by 10% in DraStic I'd consider that very significant. I can't count the number of times I've done optimizations which I thought would produce incredible performance changes only to find that they were pretty marginal. I remember when drk was saying nullDCe would be fullspeed on a PSP, sometimes even brilliant emulator coders can make poor estimations
I even once told someone that DS emulation might be viable on the old MMSP3 with 300MHz ARM9, that was incredibly poorly thought out and informed.
Wrong. The reason the Pandora has a OMAP chip instead of a weaker Freescale was because we chose cutting edge.
See how far we've come in only a year? If trashy and others thought Gamecube on ARM would be that slow 5 years down the line, Sonic has already far and wide shown it to be far better than that. its amazing imo and im really happy with how things have progressed, so thats why I dont understand the lack of optimism. if such strides have been done in recent times, whos to say equal or even greater strides are not going to be made in the year to come? I really hope ED holds off on choosing the CPU until the next gen comes out. if they are able to run dolphin well (as I predict they will) it might be worth it. And if not, then I bet the OMAP 5 will be cheaper by then so waiting is a win-win situation. Either save money, or have support for a whole new game system.
Just like how we got the rebirth and th 1ghz Pandoras. So were the 1ghz pandoras made by elves at the north pole or ED (and his German buddies) ?
There's always more cutting-edge hardwares coming out. By the moore's law, the raw computational power of chips two folds every two years.
I believe you are mistaken. I did not make any post suggesting what strategy we should use. I merely pointed out that the Pandora is capable of what it is today precisely because we chose cutting edge.
That's a valid arguement you got there. I'm totally agree with you. I've overlooked backwards compatibility's effect on this subject. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
Maybe I have overlooked something, I'm not very well informed about TIs roadmap regarding the OMAP Line - are there higher clocked chips announced already ?
It does not have to be TI, we should generally take future upgradability into consideration. Tegra may look promising, but every tegra is completely different from its predecessor. So if we are to choose Tegra 4 for the pyra, we have to accept a rather short product lifespan. ( that is Pyra will be outdated sooner than pandora.)
