Time To Rejoyce? N64 Goldeneye!?

[kingoddball]

http://bunnitude.com/ari64/mupen64plus-arm-20100212.tar.gz


Changes since -20091217:

Full TLB emulation + Goldeneye hack

Instruction scheduling changes to avoid load-use and address generation interlock

Better handling of branches into delay slots of other branches

Limit recursion in liveness analysis when evaluating nested loops (was taking too much time)

Don't speculatively precompile code if invalid instructions are encountered

GOLDENEYE!!!!



If I am wrong, please... Hit me! :angry:


SO HAPPY NOW!!


h34r: Ninja'ronimo!

 

[gruso]

I saw it, then went for a haircut, then wondered if I should bring it in here to avoid crapping up the beta thread. Glad you did it. I thought about bumping an old N64 thread but they're long and cluttered.

So in this thread, we ask knowledgeable people exactly what this means for Mupen64plus and Goldeneye. Ari's words certainly sound delicious, don't they?

[edit] Kingoddball - maybe edit your post in the beta thread with a link back to this one?

 

[Awakening]

I never liked the game, would be nice with a video though (all you people with working Pandoras, I'm looking at you)

 

[kingoddball]

Ohh.. I didn't mean to offend, Gruso.. I was only playing. Sorry

I have already edited the Beta thread and popped a link to here.

I got very excited.. Nearly fell off my lounge!

 

[gruso]

I'm not sure how you interpreted my post negatively! I'm saying that you did a good thing by bringing the conversation here.

 

[MDave]

Golden ... Goldeneye?! Yay!

A good reason for me to play this one to death all over again

Does this mean we'll perhaps see Perfect Dark working too, with both games being similar emulation wise?

 

[kingoddball]

How Did I triple post?
Could some remove them? Sorry. Firefox would not load GP32X and it must have caused that.
I'm frequently having that problem, I thought maybe it was GP32X servers getting swapped by threads.

Well, I thats great news, Gruso. It just seemed like you took my attempt at humor wrong. Nothing malicious was meant.

Anyhow! Goldeneye could someday be running! Then... Possibly Perfect Dark! andora2ut4:
Ari64 is a CHAMP!


I'm going to throw two things.. Yes, 100% TOO EARLY and Unnecessary!

1: ONLINE Multiplayer!

2: Custom levels and all the rest! Custom Levels and mods - N64

All we seemingly need is a GameShark (or to modify the rom.. Easy enough - Full guide on the lined site)

 

[gruso]

There are some issues, but it does run.

The set of changes needed to make virtual memory and pagefaults work was pretty large. There are still some problems with the code cache getting invalidated too frequently when virtual memory is used, but the compatibility looks pretty good so far. Hopefully some of the people who have received their Pandoras can give feedback on what's working, and what isn't.

[edit] For those wondering what TLB is:

http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?/topic/50257-mupen64-will-it-have/page__p__769540&#entry769540

http://strmnnrmn.blogspot.com/search/label/goldeneye

 

[Tom`]

Is all this excitement only based on the line "Full TLB emulation + Goldeneye hack?"

Just because this is implemented doesn't mean Goldeneye will run, although it's a big step.

More to the point, though, we don't know anything about performance...what I heard was that emulating the TLB took a lot of power.

I mean, I hope Goldeneye will be playable, but I wouldn't start celebrating yet.

 

[rabidpoobear]

Was about to post what Tom said but h34r:

 

[kingoddball]

Read Gruso's post. It is running.

It's coming along. Give it time, it could become playable!

It's early days.

We were told at one stage that RARE games may never even RUN.... Be Happy!

 

[rabidpoobear]

Read Gruso's post. It is running.

It's coming along. Give it time, it could become playable!

It's early days.

we read Gruso's post and then you basically said exactly what Tom said. It's not probably running at full speed right now (and it sounds like there are other errors besides the performance as well.)
We're not being negative about Ari or any of the other devs, they're awesome. Just try not to get people too excited, and expecting it to be playable, when they have only just gotten it running.

 

[Jumpman]

Sweet!


Chris

 

[rabidpoobear]

We were told at one stage that RARE games may never even RUN.... Be Happy!

Really? I'm pretty sure they just said that it's unlikely Perfect Dark would ever be playable and probably Goldeneye too.

 

[kingoddball]

(NOT AN IMAGE OF PANDORA GAMEPLAY)

 

[rabidpoobear]

ITT we see KingOddBall derail his own thread.

 

[Rathum]

ReJoyce:

Spoiler

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of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to
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end to the regginbrow was to be seen ringsome on the aquaface.

 

[kingoddball]

We were told at one stage that RARE games may never even RUN.... Be Happy!

Really? I'm pretty sure they just said that it's unlikely Perfect Dark would ever be playable and probably Goldeneye too.

Derailed.. Yes.. There was no excitement.. Anyhow..


As for no rare games, sorry. I was not 100% correct.

Does anyone know if "Conker's Bad Fur Day" will run at a respectable speed. It seems to run horribly on my PC so I wondered what it is like on this.

Thanks in advance.

It is likely that no Rare games will ever run at an acceptable level on the Pandora. But some people have different expectations. I won't play something if the sound doesn't work right, but some people are happy to play at half speed without sound at all.

 

[God Ginrai]

Does anyone know if "Conker's Bad Fur Day" will run at a respectable speed. It seems to run horribly on my PC so I wondered what it is like on this.

Thanks in advance.

It is likely that no Rare games will ever run at an acceptable level on the Pandora. But some people have different expectations. I won't play something if the sound doesn't work right, but some people are happy to play at half speed without sound at all.

... Is Lunatic even a dev? Just because one user says something doesn't mean it's truth. I wouldn't take much stockn in a comment like that unless it came from someone like Ari, Exophase, Squidge, etc.

-God Ginrai

 

[ari64]

More to the point, though, we don't know anything about performance...what I heard was that emulating the TLB took a lot of power.

Checking the page table on every memory access slows it down about 5%. Saving all the registers whenever a potentially non-mapped memory access is detected, in case a page fault occurs, adds another 1% or so.

If the game never enables the TLB, then we can avoid that 5% slowdown. There is also some overhead for self-modifying code detection, but this varies from game to game. Many games use the TLB only for data and not executable code.

If the memory subsystem was faster, the performance difference would be a bit more than 5% (I saw around 7-8% on x86).