Themes And Icons

[SomeGuy99]

There are some really nice themes out there for XFCE, but i'm not sure if they'll work in the Pandora firmware. I've tested the following in Xubuntu, to great results:

New Wave

Dust

Shiki Colors

Also, how are themes and icons installed on a Pandora? With Linux, I normally have to copy the files to /usr/share/themes and /usr/share/icons. Will we need to copy them to the NAND?

 

[Mithrildor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSjV9cRAKfM

I hope that answers your question

 

[SomeGuy99]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSjV9cRAKfM

I hope that answers your question

Not really. The above themes have additional dependencies I think, and the video makes no mention of how to install themes. But thanks for the effort!

For example, Shiki needs Murrine?

 

[dflemstr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSjV9cRAKfM

I hope that answers your question

Not really. The above themes have additional dependencies I think, and the video makes no mention of how to install themes. But thanks for the effort!

For example, Shiki needs Murrine?

GTK+ themes are installed by dropping their folders in ~/.themes (for the local user) or /usr/share/themes (for themes shared between all users as the name implies).
Both of these folders are on the NAND, unfortunately; use symlinks if you don't want to waste space, or mount your home directory on a SD card etc.

Murrine is in the Ångström repos so you can just do "ipkg install gtk-engine-murrine" to get all of your Murrinas working.

(EDIT: changed "opkg" → "ipkg" typo... Also, I hate these edit tags; why isn't the Pandora Community on Google Wave where you can view the edit history of everything?)

 

[WizardStan]

GTK+ themes are installed by dropping their folders in ~/.themes (for the local user) or /usr/share/themes (for themes shared between all users as the name implies).
Both of these folders are on the NAND, unfortunately; use symlinks if you don't want to waste space, or mount your home directory on a SD card etc.

I'm almost certain the directories are configurable. It should be possible, in theory, to tell it to also look at a directory on the SD card for the icons and stuff. Of course that means the SD card needs to remain in the slot, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem, not with two slots.

 

[dflemstr]

GTK+ themes are installed by dropping their folders in ~/.themes (for the local user) or /usr/share/themes (for themes shared between all users as the name implies).
Both of these folders are on the NAND, unfortunately; use symlinks if you don't want to waste space, or mount your home directory on a SD card etc.

I'm almost certain the directories are configurable. It should be possible, in theory, to tell it to also look at a directory on the SD card for the icons and stuff. Of course that means the SD card needs to remain in the slot, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem, not with two slots.

Oh, right, settings, forgot about those... But changing an env var will also force you to mutate NAND (talking from a purists perspective)

Anyways, GTK will detect when a theme goes missing and cleanly fall back on another theme (not really; parts of the old theme that can be salvaged from memory are still kept and a Frankenstein theme is made) so no worries.

 

[SomeGuy99]

GTK+ themes are installed by dropping their folders in ~/.themes (for the local user) or /usr/share/themes (for themes shared between all users as the name implies).
Both of these folders are on the NAND, unfortunately;

I appreciate you explaining this, but if you read my post you'll know I was already aware!


The symlink idea isn't bad, and glad to know that Murrine is in the repos. Could it be included in the next firmware update (if it's not a huge package)?

What about icons? They tend to symlink each other already. Can you symlink a symlink?

 

[dflemstr]

I appreciate you explaining this, but if you read my post you'll know I was already aware!

Yeah, I'm imagining that this subforum will become kinda like a help desk for newcomers, so explicit explanations shouldn't hurt.

What about icons? They tend to symlink each other already. Can you symlink a symlink?

You can symlink a hardlink that hardlinks a symlink, and create a gazillion symlinks on top of that. Just don't create any loops, or links that point into emptiness, and Tux will be happy.

 

[SomeGuy99]

I appreciate you explaining this, but if you read my post you'll know I was already aware!

Yeah, I'm imagining that this subforum will become kinda like a help desk for newcomers, so explicit explanations shouldn't hurt.

Good thinking.

Murrine is small, less than 80k. Don't know about the dependencies though (it has a lot).

http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=gtk-engine-murrine

To save people having to delve in the command line (I assume you need root to access /usr/share in the firmware?) maybe a quick GUI app could be knocked up to import themes and icons?

All it would have to do, I suppose, is create the needed symlinks on the NAND and copy the files to a specific folder on the SD (or the user specifies), maybe even it's own appdata folder?

 

[Trevsweb]

would love to make an icon pack... does angstrom support png icons or just .ico? is it just a case of rick clicking and changing the icon from the shortcut/applications properties?

 

[kingoddball]

Icons - With Linux, can't you just use any supported extension?

With LXDE (Debian for ARM) I can use bmp, png, jpg, ico and possibly more.
I am playing with the start menu icons.

 

[dflemstr]

The .desktop spec says that you *have* to use either PNG, XPM or SVG images. ICO is *not* supported anywhere I think and it should never be supported since it's a horrible format

Icons are stored in "/usr/share/icons" or "~/.icons" and have the structure:

<theme>/<size>/<kind>/<long-name>.<ext>

Where:

• theme: The name of the theme, may be any string that doesn't contain "/" afaik.
• size: One of "8x8 16x16 22x22 24x24 32x32 48x48 64x64 128x128 256x256 scalable" (the scalable folder may only contain SVG images)
• kind: One of "actions animations apps categories devices emblems emotes mimetypes places status" (and some more I think; "official" FDF kinds/contexts are: "Actions, Applications, Devices, FileSystems, MimeTypes")
• long-name: The icon's identifier, always lower-case and dash-separated.
• ext: One of "png xpm svg svgz" (svgz == gzipped SVG)

The names of "size" and "kind" folders aren't set in stone; you may change them but must then also update the "index.theme" file in the root of your icon theme (see any icon theme as an example of what I mean):

[48x48/status]
Context=Status
Size=48
Type=Fixed

[256x256/actions]
Context=Actions
Size=256
MinSize=56
MaxSize=512
Type=Scalable

Pretty basic stuff. Oh and also - there is a fall back chain in the icon theme system, so you can create icon themes that add some icons or else fall back on other icon sets if a specific icon can't be found.

Applications load icons by name, never by file path, so e.g. the icon "preferences-desktop-font-installer" might refer to "/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/apps/preferences-desktop-font-installer.svgz" or "~/.icons/foobar/16x16/apps/preferences-desktop-font-installer.png" or whatever; the application will choose an icon of appropriate size etc. depending on the context.

Read more about the standard here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html

 

[borgqueenx]

I want a windows vista/xp/seven look
is it also possible to run a mp4 on background?

 

[Tensuke]

I want a windows vista/xp/seven look
is it also possible to run a mp4 on background?

Possibly, but why would you want to? It would just be a waste of battery/cpu.

 

[SomeGuy99]

I want a windows vista/xp/seven look
is it also possible to run a mp4 on background?

Here's one I made earlier:

The iconset is called Gnome XP.

 

[borgqueenx]

I want a windows vista/xp/seven look
is it also possible to run a mp4 on background?

Here's one I made earlier:

The iconset is called Gnome XP.

Pretty cool but that task bar below doesnt look like windows..

 

[trooper]

The iconset is called Gnome XP

:rolleyes:

Trooper

 

[borgqueenx]

The iconset is called Gnome XP

:rolleyes:

Trooper

start menu icon? I dont see it..

 

[Trevsweb]

The .desktop spec says that you *have* to use either PNG, XPM or SVG images. ICO is *not* supported anywhere I think and it should never be supported since it's a horrible format

Icons are stored in "/usr/share/icons" or "~/.icons" and have the structure:

<theme>/<size>/<kind>/<long-name>.<ext>

Where:

• theme: The name of the theme, may be any string that doesn't contain "/" afaik.
• size: One of "8x8 16x16 22x22 24x24 32x32 48x48 64x64 128x128 256x256 scalable" (the scalable folder may only contain SVG images)
• kind: One of "actions animations apps categories devices emblems emotes mimetypes places status" (and some more I think; "official" FDF kinds/contexts are: "Actions, Applications, Devices, FileSystems, MimeTypes")
• long-name: The icon's identifier, always lower-case and dash-separated.
• ext: One of "png xpm svg svgz" (svgz == gzipped SVG)

The names of "size" and "kind" folders aren't set in stone; you may change them but must then also update the "index.theme" file in the root of your icon theme (see any icon theme as an example of what I mean):

[48x48/status]
 Context=Status
 Size=48
 Type=Fixed
 
 [256x256/actions]
 Context=Actions
 Size=256
 MinSize=56
 MaxSize=512
 Type=Scalable

Pretty basic stuff. Oh and also - there is a fall back chain in the icon theme system, so you can create icon themes that add some icons or else fall back on other icon sets if a specific icon can't be found.

Applications load icons by name, never by file path, so e.g. the icon "preferences-desktop-font-installer" might refer to "/usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/apps/preferences-desktop-font-installer.svgz" or "~/.icons/foobar/16x16/apps/preferences-desktop-font-installer.png" or whatever; the application will choose an icon of appropriate size etc. depending on the context.

Read more about the standard here: http://standards.fre...pec-latest.html

cool thanks for the info