plopperz
Huh?
We could at least try a Yabause port. I think it's open source.
Please tell me you aren't being serious. Those clock speeds are ridiculous; sure, SNES might have master clocks around there but the CPU and DSP take many many many of those cycles to execute an instruction. Saturn takes closer to 1 clock cycle to execute an instruction. You've totally ignored the part that makes SNES emulation expensive, emulation of the PPUs. Notice how a 66MHz ARM9 + 33MHz ARM7 DS can handle SNES emulation decently a lot of the time, since it uses 2D hardware for the 2D emulation.ledow said:Maybe we should come up with a formula, something like:
Absolute minimum required "perfect" emulation MHz = (((CPU1 MHz + CPU2 MHz + ... + CPUn MHz) * 2 + (5 * Number of CPU's)) / (60 * FPS_Required) + 50)
If you plug that in for, say, a Super Nintendo:
(21.28137 MHz (Main CPU) + 24.576 MHz (Audio CPU)) * 2 + 10 = 151MHz for 60fps
There is in fact a very good Saturn emulator for PC, at http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~phantasy/ssf/index.html.fusion_power said:But AFAIK even on high End-PC's thwere is no full-speed Saturn Emulation and AFAIK coding for x86 is much more easy than coding for ARM... (?) .... So I think there will be no usable Saturn Emulator for Pandora...until we hear about a really good Saturn-Emulator for PC.
Future Saturn emulation on handhelds looks a little more promising: I hope this isn't fakeTinnus said:See how it works on the PSP.
.Gogeta§§J4BR. said:Future Saturn emulation on handhelds looks a little more promising: I hope this isn't fakeTinnus said:See how it works on the PSP.
Me too... looks *almost* playable. Slideshow, certainly, but actual motion seems to be pretty zippy.
GiriGiri was pretty much fullspeed on my old laptop, but you are still talking about 1.2GHz... also GiriGiri is a commercial emulator which Sega used to debug Saturn games. It was leaked and hacked. Anyway it is possible, and things are still progressing in terms of Saturn emulation on PC. Pandora will be another story.fusion_power said:Sega Saturn Emulation sounds very interesting and the Saturn was e good Console. I remember great "SATURN BOMBERMAN" Sessions in the Army, outstanding Bomberman Game.
But AFAIK even on high End-PC's thwere is no full-speed Saturn Emulation and AFAIK coding for x86 is much more easy than coding for ARM... (?) .... So I think there will be no usable Saturn Emulator for Pandora...until we hear about a really good Saturn-Emulator for PC.
Maybe it is more easy to concentrate on a useful NDS Emulator, hard to but maybe more easy to realize than a Sega Saturn Emulator?
.Gogeta§§J4BR. said:Future Saturn emulation on handhelds looks a little more promising: I hope this isn't fakeTinnus said:See how it works on the PSP.
Hmmmmm... h34r:
If that's real, then all I have to say is WOW - port it to Pandora!
EDIT: See here:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=51yRSyxgbak
Someone commented there: "its a video if you lok closeley at the bottom right corner of teh psp youll see a verey faint DiVX logo its just barele reconizable"
I don't quite see the Divx logo, anyone see it? But I'm smelling a fake here. Why no FPS counter?
It's not a DivX logo, it's the course map. But the video is still a little suspicious -- hope that it is proven true though!Prophet said:I don't quite see the Divx logo, anyone see it? But I'm smelling a fake here. Why no FPS counter?
GunPei2X said:It's not a DivX logo, it's the course map. But the video is still a little suspicious -- hope that it is proven true though!Prophet said:I don't quite see the Divx logo, anyone see it? But I'm smelling a fake here. Why no FPS counter?
Definitely!
If Saturn emulation can run that well on PSP... then it would be smokin' on Pandora.
But still... it just doesn't smell good to me. I hope I'm wrong.
I noticed that as well, especially on the Sonic R video.Vorporeal said:I'm pretty sure it's a fake, if you look closely you can see that the movement of his fingers and the tilting of the PSP (due to him pressing buttons) doesn't always line up with the gameplay on the screen.
Huh? I don't remember SFIII being released for SS or did you make a typo?Yrx said:You know, it's almost amusing. This is one of those systems that is going to be impossible to emulate on practically anything. I still haven't even figured out how to even set the emulators up on my PC, as they're incredibly user hostile. In addition, I asked a well known portable console modder if he ever considered making a portable Saturn, and I got an answer that it would be very difficult to do, since the components are stacked like in a Gamecube or Dreamcast. Then you get into the issue that you mod chips virtually don't exist anymore, and that even if they did, compatibility with all the different models would be an issue. And you can't just ignore the system, because it has gems like NiGHTS, Shining Force III, Panzer Dragoon Saga, etc. SFIII[/B ] and PDS both being prohibitively expensive to find
SONY said:Huh? I don't remember SFIII being released for SS or did you make a typo?Yrx said:You know, it's almost amusing. This is one of those systems that is going to be impossible to emulate on practically anything. I still haven't even figured out how to even set the emulators up on my PC, as they're incredibly user hostile. In addition, I asked a well known portable console modder if he ever considered making a portable Saturn, and I got an answer that it would be very difficult to do, since the components are stacked like in a Gamecube or Dreamcast. Then you get into the issue that you mod chips virtually don't exist anymore, and that even if they did, compatibility with all the different models would be an issue. And you can't just ignore the system, because it has gems like NiGHTS, Shining Force III, Panzer Dragoon Saga, etc. SFIII[/B ] and PDS both being prohibitively expensive to find
Re-read his post. SFIII == Shining Force III.
Prophet said:I noticed that as well, especially on the Sonic R video.Vorporeal said:I'm pretty sure it's a fake, if you look closely you can see that the movement of his fingers and the tilting of the PSP (due to him pressing buttons) doesn't always line up with the gameplay on the screen.
Could be input lag... but most likely it's just fakery. Sadly.
this video apparently shows him loading the emulator from the menu...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RauQARZw58o
is anyone here into emulation on the psp that can verify that these vids are fake or not?