Request For A Scan From Linux Format


craigix

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I've been told that this months Linux Format have a hopelessly inaccurate review of the GP2X which borders on blatant lies.

Can someone post a scan here as we think we might take this one quite seriously if it is true.

Thanks,

Craig
 
craigix said:
I've been told that this months Linux Format have a hopelessly inaccurate review of the GP2X which borders on blatant lies.

Can someone post a scan here as we think we might take this one quite seriously if it is true.

Thanks,

Craig

Any idea which issue? Must have missed it if it is in one already.

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Im a newb, this months I won't get till next week (which is next month) so like, will do as soon as i can!
 
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I've got a copy, it's not good. They spent most of the article concentrating on how terrible the hardware is rather than what it can do. I'll see if I can scan it/take photos.

EDIT: I'll just copy it out until I get access to a scanner...
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Hands up if you remember the Indrema - an overhyped swiftly aborted attempt to make a Linux games console. Its failure didn't bode well for Linux as a gaming platform, but six years on, Korean company GamePark Holdings is making another attempt with the GP2X. This dinky little handheld, powered by a two-core 200MHz ARM chip and backed with 64MB of RAM, is striving to make home-brew game development a doddle. The GP2X runs Linux and lets you write or port games without any licensing or warranty worries.

Roughly the same size as the Nintendo DS Lite, the GP2X sits comfortably in your hands with nicely accessible controls. Unfortunately, the designers have opted for a terrible psuedo-analogue joystick instead of a D-pad; it's a raised circle in the middle that spins under your thumb (to no effect) and pops off alarmingly easily. GamePark includes a replacement in the pack - a thicker joystick cap that imprints 'GP2X' into your thumb after an hour of use. Otherwise the controls adopt a familiar SNES-style layout, with L and R shoulder buttons.

The unit itself feels flimsy in places - we had to insert a piece of cardboard into the battery compartment to avoid power cuts when moving the device around. The extension ports (headphones, USB and power) hide under tiny flaps connected by worryingly thin strips of rubber. It's by no means a handheld CD32, but you don't feel it could take many bumbs. Screen-wise the GP2X's 320x240 backlight display is fairly crisp - when your batteries are low, however, it messed up pretty badly. You'll definitely need rechargeables for this device; we were averaging a paltry four hours of use.

So, that's the hardware side of the GP2X, but what does it do? For software development, you get the GNU toolchain along with SDL (extra libraries such as Allegro are available from third-party developers). If you've got an SDL game, chances are it won't take much work to port, providing you cater for the limited controls and small screen when compared to a fully fledged PC. The GP2X is supplied with games to demonstrate the porting facilities, such as penguiny platform romp SuperTux. There's also a demo of Payback - an impressive looking 3D GTA clone - and other entertainment tidbits.

Game then watch
Another element of GamePark's marketing is the GP2X's media playback. Drop in an SD card to play AVI, DivX and Xvid movies. It coped with the video files we tried, producing good sound via built-in speakers, but some movies were too choppy to be watchable. MP3 playback, conversely, is superb, despite the screen going blank between tracks. As a personal media player, the GP2X isn't great and you need to convert many movies to smaller sizes and bitrates. Also, the 19-second boot time gets frustrating when you just want to listen to some tunes.

But the killer feature of the GP2X is emulation. At http://archive.gp2x.de there are hundreds of programs for the machine, including many for classic consoles. We had spot-on results with Game Boy, Game Gear and Mega Drive emulation - there's nothing as cool as Streets of Rage II in your hand. SNES emulation was ropier, with glitches aplenty, but developers are updating these to provide a healthy future for the GP2X.

GamePark has done a great job packing punch into this device while keeping the price reasonable, although we do have beefs with the hardware. Drop the stupid joystick, add a sensible D-pad, include a rechargeable battery and use tougher plastic, then it'll be a marvellous machine. Currently, it's a decent hacker's plaything, and if you're a fan of yesteryear's games, research the emulation scene to see if your favourite titles work. Steer clear if you're looking for a personal media player or full games machine, though - when it comes to that department, this is no match for the DS or PSP.



This is a little side box:
QUOTE

Graham says...
"The GP2X feels like a working prototype. An open platform is a great idea and the hardware shows potential, but it's hampered by poor design. Maybe a second generation will solve these problems."



Summary box:
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GP2X
Developer: Game Park
Web: www.gp2x.co.uk
Price: £119.99
Features 5/10
Performance 6/10
Ease of use 6/10
Value for money 8/10
>> A retro gamer's dream, let down by build quality and lack of built-in battery.
Rating: 6/10



I did offer them a copy of Open2x but they never bothered to contact me for it in the end. Linux Format has been getting worse over the years, this seems to be fairly common now :S. I will try and get a proper scan if nobody else does in the next few days, but that is pretty much it (there is a couple of photos, the captions to which are "That's a hefty array of functions, but the GP2X doesn't really excel at any of them" and "That peculiar 'joystick' in all its, well, it's hardly glory, is it?"). Sounds to me like they got an old pack that was also faulty :S.
 
Well let's take a look and see what we think. They have had a few jabs at the GP2X in the past, so this review should be interesting.
 
I can't see what the problem is with this review. There doesn't seem to be any mis-information, and the battery issue presumably wasn't made up.

I agree with most of it-- Don't get me wrong, I love my GP2X to bits, but it's not a 'current' games machine and there are some really awful design decisions.

I guess most people just want a handheld to work perfectly OOTB, and the GP2X just isn't that.

//edit : I just read the LXF forum thread and was a little embarassed by the fanboyism in there. *Sigh*
 
Yeah, I'd say there isn't anything terribly wrong with that review. I agree with most of what was said. The only thing i disagree with is the comment about it being a poor media player. I don't think that could be further from the truth.
 
P-J said:
//edit : I just read the LXF forum thread and was a little embarassed by the fanboyism in there. *Sigh*
Of whom?
 
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If the editor of that magazine usually proceeds as that i wonder how many reviews the magazine can do at all. So many things in the linux world had to be gotten to work by 3rd party driver hackers.

And when did a company officially embaraced the public communitys? Sharp? They produced a commercially blended handheld.. polished but closed. With next to none help to the public.
Nokia? They even deny they use linux as a base for their N7xx models. GPH? They are producing a handheld but don't like to communicate at all. At least not outside of korea. They handed everyone a sturdy, basic but not too polished handheld.

So where does this bias towards "out-of-the-box" solutions come from? Commercial companies do look at sales figures and don't care too much if the customers are content as long the sales aren't looking too bad.
 
It seems the thing they hated most was that stick. Judging by THESE forums that stick is hated just as much here. Some of the biggest threads are on how to replace/mod the stick. I have to agree with them here.

I don't agree with them about built in batteries though. I don't know what it is with people wanting batteries that are hard to get and will render the unit useless in the future when they aren't made anymore (Zodiac, Giz etc). Plus if these built in batteries go out while not near a charger you are screwed, Proprietary batteries suck. Just buy rechargeables and shut up ;)
 
its pretty accurate, the only thing in the review that seems flawed is

"The GP2X feels like a working prototype. An open platform is a great idea and the hardware shows potential, but it's hampered by poor design. Maybe a second generation will solve these problems."

are we not upto the 3rd version already ?
 
Sounded pretty good to me but my english it is not so good, WTF's a doddle? I would wager if you flipped through all the back issues the number of gph ads would be rather low compared to nintendo, sony and ms, just saying I've found the editorial content of most of these rags to follow suit so all things considered I thought that snippet rather positive.
 
Samba Pa Ti said:
its pretty accurate, the only thing in the review that seems flawed is

"The GP2X feels like a working prototype. An open platform is a great idea and the hardware shows potential, but it's hampered by poor design. Maybe a second generation will solve these problems."

are we not upto the 3rd version already ?


Yeah, that's the bit that miffs me a bit. The console is light. As for the casing and all, well when I took mine apart I was really impressed with how well it went together and how generally durable and well thought out the design seemed. "Working prototype" pushes it a bit far.

I think this review is reasonably truthful, but very negative and somewhat misleading. Yeah you only get four hours, is that really that bad when you can have two or three other battery sets?

Joystick, well there are better solutions, but its not like trying to use a lemon as a controller. Fair enough to suggest replacing it.

I dunno are they trying to playback 1080i or something "but some movies were too choppy to be watchable" - I've played back heavily compressed full res video without issue.. "Steer clear if you're looking for a personal media player" seems a bit harsh, I've played with actual PMP's that are far worse for compatibility, and even more expensive...

Well I'm done with my once in six months post, I guess people are allowed to be negative if they like.
 
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i also dissagree with their comments on MP3 playback, yes the built in player sucks,
but craigamp is much better if they had bothered to try it they would have noticed it plays mp3 perfectly (and underclocking saves battery life),
we all know this, but incase they ever read this thread its good to point out all the flaws in their review.

TBH i wish the gp2x didnt come with linux on it at all, it just seems more of a burden than anything, since we get all these linux fanboy arseholes reviewing it (maybe they expect it to be like a fully featured desktop version of linux)
and it makes my piss boil when people compare the 2x to psp/ds
 
On there forums, they state that they will only review a console exactly how it comes. They don't install 3rd party software/etc, so they test the built in video/mp3/ebook etc and don't care to look out for better alternatives.

However, they mention emulation and talk about how snes isn't that good. As far as I know the 2x doesn't come with a pre-installed snes emulator, so they must have downloaded one.

So why didn't they just download a decent mp3 player/etc too?

It seems they don't care about consistency.
 
I can't imagine that the stick entirely ruins the GP2X experience, but they seem to dwell on it like it's a completely deal-breaking factor. I like the GP2X-imprinted-on-thumb cap.

Sphinxter: It's British English, 'a doddle' means 'a simple task'.
 
Squidge said:
On there forums, they state that they will only review a console exactly how it comes. They don't install 3rd party software/etc, so they test the built in video/mp3/ebook etc and don't care to look out for better alternatives.
That does scare me.
What sense does it make, reviewing a console, that simply exists for HOMEBREWN software, if they DO NOT want to install it?
It's like buying a TV without the intention of connecting it to a satellite receiver and then say "The built-in snow-like programs suck."
 
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EvilDragon said:
It's like buying a TV without the intention of connecting it to a satellite receiver and then say "The built-in snow-like programs suck."
That is brilliant. I laughed :)
 
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