Please Excuse My Ignorance

[ThaDSman]

Please excuse my ignorance, but I was just wondering if the pandora will be able to run desktop effects and widgets like these nice effects? I obviously know nothing about linux, but I was just curious if these beautiful effects were something that are possible on the Pandora without slowing it down or consuming too much resources.

 

[mindlord]

No and Yes. Compiz requires OpenGL, but the Pandora has a slightly different implementation called OpenGL/ES (designed for small devices). Unless someone painstakingly converts Compiz from OpenGL to OpenGL/ES we won't be seeing effects like the ones seen in the first video.

However, E17 without Compiz does have some nice effects that are already OpenGL/ES compatible. So in that instance, yes. Until recently, E17 was going to be the default WM for the Pandora, but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead, but that doesn't mean E17 won't still be available for those that want it.

 

[rabidpoobear]

man we sure are getting a lot of posts lately. Can't wait to see what happens when people actually have Pandoras!

 

[gruso]

but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead

Oh, when did this happen?

 

[Tom`]

but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead

Oh, when did this happen?

Yes, xfce is the current target with E17 as fallback.

I forget if QT libs are in the target image build, but I'll find out. We want lots of libs in there of course, to make porting easier and less load on the .pnd's.

jeff

 

[atomicthumbs]

Until recently, E17 was going to be the default WM for the Pandora, but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead

When was this?

Edit:

That'll teach me not to reload

 

[Sphinxter]

but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead

Oh, when did this happen?

Got to be bullshitting me.

 

[ThaDSman]

Woah! Well thanks for the speedy replies!
While i didn't find anything special or interesting about xfce,(googled some videos) the E17 window manager did look nice so it's good enough for me.

 

[gruso]

...i didn't find anything special or interesting about xfce...

You're now familiar with XFCE.

 

[Yoyobuae]

Besides needless bling, what could one want from a window manager?

• launch apps
• browse files
• switch between windows
• menus and stuff
• clock

As long as it covers the basics its fine by me, anything else is just feature bloat.

 

[ThaDSman]

...i didn't find anything special or interesting about xfce...

You're now familiar with XFCE.

Lol, wow really!? And here I was thinking I'm missing the bigger picture!
Why did they focus on xfce over e17 anyway? Is it more stable? Uses less resources maybe?

 

[Drack]

Lol, wow really!? And here I was thinking I'm missing the bigger picture!
Why did they focus on xfce over e17 anyway? Is it more stable? Uses less resources maybe?

Probably not. XFCE uses GTK+, which many consider a somewhat resource-heavy toolkit. Yeah, XFCE is still lightweight in comparison to KDE or Gnome, but other WMs like E17, Matchbox, IceWM, or Sawfish have it well beat for resource consumption.

The major advantage of XFCE is that it feels fully featured, so that migration from gnome/kde/windows is less of a big change. And since you're going to load GTK+ into memory anyway if you use, say, Firefox or Pidgin, you're not saving any resources by going with a lighter WM.

 

[gaterooze]

As long as it covers the basics its fine by me, anything else is just feature bloat.

Agreed. That other stuff is such a load of wank. Nice to show off for a few minutes, but I turn all of that off pretty quickly.

 

[Sphinxter]

gnome lite

 

[Nation.A.List]

gnome lite

 

[juniorm33]

It's a good question what does each WM bring to the table compared to the one before it.
I've never asked before because I just felt I could google it and read up on them if I was really that interested. But since it's now out there, anyone with preferences and knowledge on them like to enlighten us? Sounds like an obvious point but especially where Pandora is concerned.

 

[Enverex]

but recently they've decided to go with XFCE instead

Oh, when did this happen?

Yes, xfce is the current target with E17 as fallback.

I forget if QT libs are in the target image build, but I'll find out. We want lots of libs in there of course, to make porting easier and less load on the .pnd's.

jeff

Thread link please. I don't remember the team mentioning this, especially as it's a massive change really...

 

[arrrgh]

I used XFCE when I used to use Linux and it was pretty nice. I would quite like to see it on the Pandora. I haven't used E17 but from the videos it looks pretty nice. Which to choose :wacko:

 

[bzar]

Thread link please. I don't remember the team mentioning this, especially as it's a massive change really...

Forum search "xfce" yields:
http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?/topic/50218-kde-on-arm/page__st__15__p__768617__hl__xfce__fromsearch__1&#entry768617

 

[juniorm33]

It has been mentioned that xfce is the current target with E17 as fallback. It's highlighted in Tom's post.

Edit quoted wrong person