PlayStation Phone


So it does indeed look like they are going to be releasing their own games
 
Yeah I saw it on Joystiq. I personally cannot wait for it. As long as Sony finally introduce a physical copy -> digital copy system to entice current PSP owners...that should have happened with the Go. One idea would be to allow users to rip their PSP games, although tied to a PSN account, to their PS3 or PC and only allow them transfer them to a registered PSP/PSPGo/PS Phone device.
 
cameleon said:
Yeah I saw it on Joystiq. I personally cannot wait for it. As long as Sony finally introduce a physical copy -> digital copy system to entice current PSP owners...that should have happened with the Go. One idea would be to allow users to rip their PSP games, although tied to a PSN account, to their PS3 or PC and only allow them transfer them to a registered PSP/PSPGo/PS Phone device.
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Had a similar idea!
 
more pictures, specs are getting impressive... basically twice as powerful as we previously seen. Last leak was showing ~24fps in the same app, now 59fps. My thought, optimizations to the firmware/dsp were made, this is going to be really decent for present gen android gaming. (yes that means full speed 60+ fps for emulators) my samsung epic preforms very well but doesn't get quite as good scores, so this phone is definitely top of the line.


http://www.engadget.com/photos/playstation-phone-leak-in-china/#3754936


more videos and coverage of latest leaks, sadly nothing was announced by sony ericson at CES, eventually a possible separate press release when the date gets closer.


http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/sonys-playstation-phone-gets-in-depth-preview-in-china-playsta/


http://kotaku.com/5727388/lets-see-the-playstation-phone-in-action


just some tidbits I caught


1500mah battery


sim card


this might be called playstation pocket (psp=playstation portable)


enjoy


UPDATE:


speculated specs have been confirmed:


1GHz Snapdragon QSD8255 processor, a Qualcomm Adreno 205 GPU, 512MB of RAM, and 512MB of ROM
 
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johnsongrantr said:
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but first time the controller part of the device has been demo'd


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Sadly he only demo'd the buttons and the d-pad, not the touchpad nubs.


I would like to see them in action, I'm still skeptical about those.
 
I already seen them in the shop,ugly looking thing,looks like pspgo,i would never buy it.


Pandora is the best,if only it can make voice calls.
 
I've been testing an Xperia Play for the last week or so. The controls are awful, the Playstation branded games are even worse. And the only thing noteworthy about it is Minecraft Pocket.


The iControlPad + ANY OTHER ANDROID PHONE combo absolutely wipes the floor with it. And you get the benefit of playing classic Playstation games which don't suck balls.


Seriously... they're selling Destruction Derby 1. I was a *huge* fan of DD2, but the original is just craptacular.


Also, Crash Bandicoot. Yeah, it's a classic that any PSX owner should remember. But it's not a game worth playing these days for more than a few nostalgic minutes, and it hasn't even been tweaked to work with the analogue controls.


The analogue controls on the Play are particularly shite. They're not even sticks; they are, literally, no better than blindly jabbing your thumbs at a phone screen... apart from the fact you're not obscuring the phone screen with your thumbs.


God knows what Sony are trying to achieve here, but the Play has been out for a while and the PSX games library is still leaving an awful lot to be desired. I think it's an abandoned, bastard child and we'll never see anything like it again.
 
yes you are right.


I didn't believe in playstation phone it was a big joke.


Pandora can play psx without any problems and has great controls,which work perfect,only thing is it's not a phone.


Sony messed it up with pspgo it looked ugly and uncomfortable to hold in hand and had stiff controls,lloks like sony doesn't know anything about controls anymore even ps3 controllers aren't good and has horrible shoulders buttons,which make clicking sound when pressed they are annoying,


We need n64 controls they were perfect in every way.
 
the xperia play isn't that bad. I agree the iCP and pandora have better controls but the play has a lot on both of those as far as form factor and construction quality and battery life if you factor in the 3rd party extended battery. Also the frame rates are as good if not better on anything the pandora can do due to the beefier specs in regards to emulators.


EDIT: I'm seeing 60fps with no frame skip on all "classic" emulators pre psx/n64 and extremely playable almost perfect w/ frameskip ~1-2 on psx/n64 emulators. This is with no overclock and side by side with the pandora for comparison speeds play @ 1ghz stock, pandora o/c'd to 800mhz. Overclocking the play to 1.2ghz shows a noticeable improvement on already "good enough" frame rates.


I would have for sure would have prefered some physical nubs over the optical stick nonsense, but they just take some getting used to, they do work and once you get the feel for them it is better than having your thumbs on the screen... not a whole lot better, but you can at least see arond your thumbs that way. I adore the dpad on the icp and pandora, I know the play doesn't have anthing on what can be seen as th best dpad in existance, but agian, the play's isn't bad, just not as good. The odroid hhad a "bad" dpad.... I own all the devices being compared here and while all could be better in each their own little ways. None are "horrible" I don't think you guys are giving the play the crdit it deserves.
 
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nobody is giving the xperia play any credit, because there isnt any due, not for the original ipad price, or the current $200 price
 
johnsongrantr said:
I know the play doesn't have anthing on what can be seen as th best dpad in existance, but agian, the play's isn't bad, just not as good.
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Sure, there are plenty of worse D-Pads ( Xbox 360 controller, ugh! ). But that doesn't mean the one on the play isn't utterly horrible. It can't be rolled, and it's stiffer than a dead rock golem (what!?)


It's hard to give the Xperia Play credit when it's clear as day that Sony, too, have abandoned it. I got one via a mobile network who probably just want to clear their stock and be done with it.


With mobiles being upgraded every 12-24 months, Sony can't just produce *one* Play, it's a product line they would have to be thoroughly committed to. With no successor on the horizon, and the Play already looking dated compared to the likes of the SGS2 it's safe to say: R.I.P.


The play promised a lot, and I really love the ideas behind it. But it needs better controls and better support. As it is, it was a throw-away concept that any self-respecting mobile manufacturer should have seen as a dud from the outset.
 
sony is planning to buy ericson and really move forward in the mobile phone space. I think they realize it's potential if done correctly. Their walkman, cybershot, and psp will probally be spun off into a phone and possibly combine them into one. I don't think they are abandoning the play. It was definately a "test device" I partook in a customer opinion over the phone survey from someone over there that claimed to work for SE They were asking about my useage habits, how i would improve it, suggestions and opinions. They paid me cash for my time and responses so I know someone is going to be looking at what I said. (don't worry I did strongly suggest they relook the dpad, and joystick situation) They seemed very interested in my retro gaming on emulators and were very aware of their pressence on the android platform.


Anyway so, no, I don't think they will be abandoning it. I full heartedly belive they will be making a xperia play 2 or whatever after they guaged the interest correctly and know how to market it. There realy wasn't anything else like it out there like it so it wouldn't supprise me at all if this was just a beta test or experiment to see how people responded to such a device. I'm sure the next one will be better.


They are still releaseing updates for the play, I just got one like 3 weeks ago fixed some of the bugs in the os and added some features (I don't really use but there regardless) also enabled 720p video recording. Their other play stationed certified devices are about to hit as well and once they open up certification to other devices like planned we will probally see better controls on a phone than the play, even if it isn't from SE. I don't think the platform will be abandoned, maybe the device sometime soon, but the platform will at tleast see another itteration. They play also is promissed to see the next version of android, and the devs at SE have been working with the homebrew community. Noteably the cyanogenmod team to help with porting that flavor of the OS to the play (among other xperia line devices)
 
I do enjoy Lumines, Infecct and Minecraft on my Xperia Play.
 
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the xperia play isn't that bad. I agree the iCP and pandora have better controls but the play has a lot on both of those as far as form factor and construction quality and battery life if you factor in the 3rd party extended battery. Also the frame rates are as good if not better on anything the pandora can do due to the beefier specs in regards to emulators.
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I haven't played on an xperia play yet, but one user from the german boards (who has both Pandora and xperia Play) mentioned that while both usually stay fullspeed with SNES emulation, the xperia play slows down on StarFox when a lot is happening at once, and the Pandora doesn't do that.


That's a bit what I experienced with iPhone 4 and N900 emulators - the CPU power is better, but as there is always an OS needing a lot of CPU power, the Pandora feels smoother.


My N900 doesn't even play NES without stuttering - and it's got the same SoC as the Pandora...
 
EvilDragon said:
johnsongrantr said:
the xperia play isn't that bad. I agree the iCP and pandora have better controls but the play has a lot on both of those as far as form factor and construction quality and battery life if you factor in the 3rd party extended battery. Also the frame rates are as good if not better on anything the pandora can do due to the beefier specs in regards to emulators.
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I haven't played on an xperia play yet, but one user from the german boards (who has both Pandora and xperia Play) mentioned that while both usually stay fullspeed with SNES emulation, the xperia play slows down on StarFox when a lot is happening at once, and the Pandora doesn't do that.


That's a bit what I experienced with iPhone 4 and N900 emulators - the CPU power is better, but as there is always an OS needing a lot of CPU power, the Pandora feels smoother.


My N900 doesn't even play NES without stuttering - and it's got the same SoC as the Pandora...
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did that person mention the emulator he was running? I'm running the most recent version of snesoid from yongzh from slideme market place. I just played through the first couple levels of starfox (U) for snes and I haven't run into any slowdowns at all?


some things to note, the emulator has options in there that have default settings that may need changed, by default it sets the frameskip to 2fps, you can knock that down to 0 for buttery smoothness, if you don't it for some reason actually uses frameskip when not really needed. Sound and framerates are consistent 60fps if you basically disable the frameskip, I leave mine on "auto" and max frame skips at 0. Also some games run better on what he describes as "c core" mario rpg etc. Leaving this enabled all the time doesn't appear to hurt many other games, but I tend to only turn it on when needed. Starfox happens to be one of the games where it runs much much better with the "c core" enabled.


Also I am sort of glad someone responded cause a couple days after I posted I got a hold of the newest version of CM7 (cyanogenmod) if you don't keep up on android it's the most popular homebrew android OS, a very optimized version of stock vanillia android, and depending on who you talk to, a more optimized version of android than the version of the OS that comes stock on your phone. Anyway..... I got the newest version FXP30 I think it is? http://forum.xda-dev...d.php?t=1128216 but there's some magic in that version or something because everything I ran was basically twice as good as I've ever seen on the play. Everything I throw at it shows absolutely no stuttering at all, and even better battery life than before, all running at 1ghz. If you have a play and have it rooted, I consider it to be a must to at least give it a test drive.


nesoid (NES emulator) runs 60+fps no frameskip any game I threw at it, any game you want me to try? fpse (psx emulator) runs every game at 60+ fps with no frameskip (you have to actually turn on the frame limiter as just for shits & grins, I left it off and hit 113fps) I never once saw it drop below 58-59 fps in any game I own. N64oid (based off mupen64) runs fantastic, can't seem to find a fps counter in that one but to my untrained eye it is running somewhere between 50-60fps on demanding games like goldeneye, zelda oot, smash bros and some others. 60+ in games like mario64, mario kart and others no frameskip.


I wish there was a way I could capture it on video but video from a cameraphone and youtube both run at 30fps right? I will try to get something going here in the next day or so to see if I can't capture it. It's pretty good though.


EDIT: ok so I got a video of me playing through the first level of starfox on SNES, some goldeneye on N64, ff7 on PSX, and OG (original gangsta) zelda on NES. Got a ton of games on there and own them all of course ;) it's kinda blurry, and not sure if it's going to limit it to 30fps, but we'll see. Also at the end I noticed it didn't show clearly what I was showing off but it was I was at 69% battery, and it was on in instant on stand-by for 22 hours I had played for 5 hours on my car trip from columbus OH all the way to fort knox ky USA.


It's about 300mb so once it's done uploading I'll post it, also it's my first youtube video ever, so keep that in mind =P

https://www.youtube.com/embed/igGldO5gAOw?feature=oembed
 
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EvilDragon said:
johnsongrantr said:
the xperia play isn't that bad. I agree the iCP and pandora have better controls but the play has a lot on both of those as far as form factor and construction quality and battery life if you factor in the 3rd party extended battery. Also the frame rates are as good if not better on anything the pandora can do due to the beefier specs in regards to emulators.
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I haven't played on an xperia play yet, but one user from the german boards (who has both Pandora and xperia Play) mentioned that while both usually stay fullspeed with SNES emulation, the xperia play slows down on StarFox when a lot is happening at once, and the Pandora doesn't do that.


That's a bit what I experienced with iPhone 4 and N900 emulators - the CPU power is better, but as there is always an OS needing a lot of CPU power, the Pandora feels smoother.


My N900 doesn't even play NES without stuttering - and it's got the same SoC as the Pandora...
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Ditnt you mean me???, i have the same username in both forum..


I use Real 64 for N64, on this Emu you can play a lot Games good, but it ditnt use the touchnubs of the xperia play, but its playable,


Concers Bad Fur Day, and Blast Corps dosnt seams to work, CBFD is slow, BC ditnt work.


for SNES, i use SNES 9X EX , Star Fox work, but is slow, but the usual games are working fine (mario etc)


I dintnt try psx, i have Colin Mc Rae Rally 2.0, Tekken 2, GTA 2, and Tony Hawks 3 on my Micro SD Card, but i think it is slower than on the Pandora...


The DPAD is not bad for a "Handy", but the DPAD on the Pandora is the best on the Devices i own..,


I prever Gaming on the Pandora even more than on the Xperia Play, but i dit by the Xperia because i wants tho play on the go whitout the need of a Pants whit big bags on it, the Xperia fits in a Jeans Bag, the Pandora need big sidebags..


To kill some time, the Xperia Play is great, but to play seriously the Pandora is better..


Meybe the Peaple say a lot bad thing to the Xperia Play, because whit the Xperia Play you ditnt need an IControlpad...


Persionaly, i have suportet Openpandora whit my Pandoraorder in 2008 and the Premiumupgrade at the begining of 2011, that should be enought for a lot icp s i dintnt need to by because i have an Xperia Play...


Beside Gaming, the Xperia Play is my first Smartphone :)
 
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