Pandora Vs Acer Aspire One

[sukhiextreme]

I'm very serious about laptop, but i don't like netbook they are totally weak in specs, the best laptops are made by dell they are made for games, the new model called m1730 is one of the greatest laptop ever made.

I would say pandora is better than acer netbook because it fits in pocket and will have applications,emulators,firefox 6, it's amazing a little handheld can do all this.

The cool thing about pandora is playing genesis emulator a game called sonic 3 you can connect one usb control pad and can start playing straightaway or you can use gaming controls of the system and for typing you have qwerty keyboard, pandora has all features from notebook and netbook, the only thing it can't do is plays windows software.

 

[Frogboy]

Because when I first found out about the Pandora, I crapped my pants I was so excited! What? That was only me?

 

[cowai]

Because when I first found out about the Pandora, I crapped my pants I was so excited! What? That was only me?

You are not alone, I tell you.

 

[Ryuu]

Good morning!

I've a little problem.
I saw the capabilities of the Acer Aspire One: its CPU, its screen, its RAM.... It has the power doubled respect to the Pandora.
Not speaking in terms of size: why should I buy a Pandora when I can install a lot of emulator and games on it, it works like a Netbook and it's more powerfull?
This is an ignorant Topic I really don't know the answer so don't think i'm arrogant...
Thank you very much

If you want hold-your-hand-and-spy-on-you-dows then get the acer. The acer uses a x86 cpu so you can use all software coded for the x86, the pandora on the other hand uses an ARM cpu which is the MOBILE in mobile hardware.

I suggest you research your options google is your friend, acer does not state whether the 6-7 hours on battery is 6-7 hours super power saving mode i.e standby XD or if it is performance mode i.e full cpu which i know its not an acer at full cpu will give you 1:30-2:30 hours trust me.

The pandora is 8 hours full cpu so you choose dude its your moneys, if your going for the acer i suggest you get those £300,roll it together tightly, stick it in your mouth then set the end on fire the high you will get will be more than anything the acer's crappy cpu could give you

I'm very serious about laptop, but i don't like netbook they are totally weak in specs, the best laptops are made by dell they are made for games, the new model called m1730 is one of the greatest laptop ever made.

Dude DELL dont make sh*t they are resellers who's high performance laptops are Clevo's. Do you research and you wont look like a Dell fanboy

 

[hobbyman II]

sigh! I really wonder why people post on this forum when they obviously don`t know what it`s about, for all the reading they must have done prior to posting this forum could have been about rabbit breeding or teapot hurdling, you can no more compare a Aspire to a Pandora than you could compare a 300 ton quarry truck to a Ferrari, yes they both have wheels, pistons and a steering wheel, but there the similarity ends, please read the faq before posting stuff like this, whats next? Pandora vs Babbage engine?

 

[audovoice]

yeah... with the Acer you get full Flash support, PDF support, and java. Also if you DO want to play a lot of old dos games Acer probably would be a better choice. You could probably play some 4-6 year old FPS that are native to windows. There are also sooo many games for windows that will never get ported.

But I am coming from the other side. This is going up from a Zune and a possible choice of an iPod Touch 2g.

Time will tell if this is practical but if I can run a headphone from the Pandora in my pocket why not use it as a MP3 player. andora1:

I can see the appeal of a sub-notebook but if I did not go with the Pandora I would get a powerful notebook instead... maybe.

One of the problems with a notebook is that you will need a special case for it. You will always be thinking you have this laptop thing in your case all the time and every one else will see you have it too. Even if you keep it in your passenger bag or backpack it will weigh on your mind to know some thing worth a lot of money is in your bag and might get stolen. I figure when it is in my pocket it is much less obvious in situation where you otherwise would not have a bag.

 

[Username]

sigh! I really wonder why people post on this forum when they obviously don`t know what it`s about, for all the reading they must have done prior to posting this forum could have been about rabbit breeding or teapot hurdling, you can no more compare a Aspire to a Pandora than you could compare a 300 ton quarry truck to a Ferrari, yes they both have wheels, pistons and a steering wheel, but there the similarity ends, please read the faq before posting stuff like this, whats next? Pandora vs Babbage engine?

Pandora vs Blender Vs Meat cleaver - which one serves as a better weapon (when on the go)?

 

[mali]

To move this back on topic, here is a similar discussion:
http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showtopic=45725

 

[Chip]

This has been done to death.

 

[MWeston]

Because when I first found out about the Pandora, I crapped my pants I was so excited! What? That was only me?

Nah, you're not alone. When we can finally ship this thing, I might tweak a loaf myself.

 

[nubie]

Not speaking in terms of size, why should you waste your time with an Acer Aspire when you could have a giant desktop with a 24" screen, SLI high-end Nvidia cards, a full-size keyboard and mouse, and a speaker system with giant subwoofer?

Oh wait--maybe size DOES matter when you're talking about something you want to carry with you.

Not trying to be too snarky there--but the Aspire is a subnotebook; the Pandora is a handheld. Just as a subnotebook gives you a certain amount more freedom than a desktop, so does a handheld over a subnotebook. The reason you should buy a Pandora is for the small form factor, bult-in game controls, etc. That's the whole point of the beast!



Yes but that system can cost billions... Aspire One costs 200€; it costs 200€ and also aganist the 255€ of Pandora...

Billions?!?!?

1. Dual 8800 series cards: $200 (or a nice single ATi HD4870 for $200, or 1GB 4870 for $239),
   
2. Motherboard with SLi: $80,
   
3. Pentium e2140 for $60 or Quad-Core Q6600 2.4Ghz: $160 (add $50 for a 5-heatpipe cooler to run it at 3ghz all day).
   
4. 24" screen: $200.
   
5. PC-Power and Cooling Silencer 420 for $65, the 500w comes with 2x 6-pin PCI-E for $85
   
6. Throw it in an old case or a $20 case with free shipping from Newegg.com.

Even with 4GB of ram that should easily come in under $700.

I think that could make a nice rig, and I sure as heck would choose that over a sub-notebook at the same price any day. If you are going bigger than a Pandora your next step needs at least a Geforce6600 and a 12-14" screen (check on ebay for about $300), for gaming get a core2duo notebook with an 8800 or 9800 minimum, I think there is a nice 14.1" screen model somewhere, maybe $800-$1,000.

I am afraid you set off my secret hobby, making up systems on the cheap.

Edit, sorry for the huge off-topic.

I wouldn't spend more than $300 for a netbook, and I would double-check the tiny size of the Pandora and the long battery life against a real notebook.

I bought my brother a 12" screen Toshiba Portege for $140 (including the money for a 20GB iPod hard drive that it needed.) It is only a 750mhz, but you can get some 1.2Ghz ones for under $300.

Bonus points for the solid Magnesium case and the Eeepc-like weight

 

[second exodous]

I personally think the netbooks are a fad or are a bridge to smaller systems. Right now people want x86, not arm, so netbooks fill the gap for those that can't live without x86 compatibility but want a smallish device.

When you can put a x86 chip in a system the size of a Pandora then netbooks will disappear.

I did want a netbook but when I actually played with one. The small size wasn't small enough to justify getting one of those with all the drawbacks over a small notebook that can do everything my desk computer can do. I think it's not that big of a leap to go for the small notebook with all the features over a netbook.

 

[pseudonym404]

I actually quite like netbooks, and am writing this now on my somewhat upgraded eee 901 (currently 3g mod, upgraded ram and ssds). I must admit that if I'd had to choose between the eee 901 and the pandora, it would have to be the pandora, but it's a close call.

I see the pandora as a superb little open gaming platform, that's also capable of pretty much all the tasks that a netbook is, just not as comfortably. Just as I'd rather use my desktop system when at home for general computing tasks and development, I'd rather use a netbook on the go over the pandora for the same reasons.

The current (2nd gen btw, not 1st) netbooks on the other hand seem to have found a happy medium between the earlier offerings and a full fledged notebook, as the 1024x600 8.9" screens are just large enough to run a full desktop and fit almost everything on screen quite comfortably, bar a few poorly thought out dialogs, when using a more suitable (smaller than the giant dpi based system selected) font size. Apparently this is also true for windows, but I've only actually used kde and gnome on mine (I like kde, but I try gnome out now and again in case I like it more now).

The atom processors, while being far less powerful than the core2duos found even in some entry level notebooks these days, do pack just about enough grunt for anything non-recent-gaming you're likely to throw at it. A further block to getting any relatively recent games going is the low end intel graphics chips they're lumbered with, which will cope with quake 3, but quake 4 is a slideshow.

Luckily, I didn't have to choose, I had just about enough for both plus the upgrades I considered essential to getting the most out the netbook, the most important being a larger and faster ssd.

I plan on using the pandora predominantly for gaming, although I will be configuring it (as necessary) for other tasks, should I wish to in a pinch, and using the eee 901 for everything else.

In short, if you have to choose one, get the pandora. If you tend to use your computer for more than just browsing, email and media playback and you can get both, do so, you will most likely get use out of both as long as you actually take both with you everywhere (easier than a full sized notebook).

 

[Samalthos]

Here it is down and dirty from an Aspire One owner alright (I own the ZG5 Linux Linpus Edition)

You get:
8 GB solid state HDD which is about the same as a fast SD card this day and age

1.6 GHz Intel Atom processor(It performs around the same as my IBM Pentium 3 733MHz (Really old Laptop) because it's dual cores are constantly swapping the load so CPU Wear is even, I guess, one core will be under 10% usage when the other one is at around 80-100% usage and they swap about every three to five seconds)

512 MB Ram I have never used up all my RAM yet or delved into my swap space very much so the RAM for the Machine is suitable but the Processor has a hard time keeping up

Intel GMA 915 8MB Video card (Adds Nice effects to your desktop and delivers sharp video and pictures but so does my old IBM with an ATI Rage Pro 1MB Video Card, Can play some 3D games but RTS Games Which suck because the processor can't handle selecting that many units.

1024x600 Resolution Is okay although it took me some getting used to. There are some problems I will discuss later on though

Small Keyboard and mouse (I'm a really big dude I have nearly a foot from pinky to thumb and the keyboard is okay it's the mouse that ticks me off, unless you like the little touch pad thing that most laptops have today you will hate this mouse I just wish it had the IBM nub mouse in between the G H B. Get a small USB mouse and maybe a keyboard if you think you may not like the onboard stuff.

General Ports and hookups
3 - USB 2.0
Ethernet
VGA (Video Card can't really handle Dual Displays as you might think. It can display the same thing on both screens or just on one be it External or onboard
1 mic Internal and External
Speakers (I was actually surprised by this things sound output. it's no where near a regular laptop but it really tries)
Headphones
Wi Fi 802.11 g/b 54Mbps (works even a great deal from router) (Problems will discus later)
Dual SDHC Slots (I have an 8GB and 4GB SDHC cards in it for music and what not for a total space of 20GB)
Webcam 1.3 Mega Pixels (Problems will discuss later)

No Bluetooth
No CD/DVD
No Floppy
No Firewire

I got Really sick and tired of trying to get usage out of Linpus which come with Media Apps for music and videos, Games, Webcam viewer, Office Apps from open office, Firefox and some other networking apps mainly to do with eMail.
You have to find the terminal through the File Manager and Type in following commands to get Advanced mode unlocked

xterm
Next type
xfce-settings-show

Advanced mode unlocked (Figure it out from here)
The settings can't really be changed much which does suck

After fooling around with Linpus I decided to put an Ubuntu Series OS on it.
It took a lot of studying and stuff to figure out how to boot from USB but once you had it it was easy

After I loaded Xubuntu (I like it because it is lighter although if I had my way without slowdowns and OS issues I'd have Kubuntu)
Wifi didn't work the front Mic and webcam didn't work and the resolution was messed up.

Fix resolution by changing your DPI (Search around for it)
Fix wifi by online tutorials you have to reinstall the driver HAL or whatever
I skipped the webcam and mic though so don't come begging I didn't even do research on it.

So there it is. It is a good little machine if you stay inside it's capabilities I can have about three to four firefox tabs open before I feel the processor slowdown. and can play movies and music + some Games and Wine just fine but nothing too intensive AoE 2
Rip off Starwars Galactic Battle Grounds runs but really slow if you have too many units selected if you are trying to judge the Aspires Gaming power. I haven't tried any emulators though but soon I will if you want results cause i'm itching to play some Sonic 3K here soon and maybe some puyo puyo games.

I think the Pandora is a great deal and I'd be willing to trade my Aspire One in for one just because of the support and fine tuning behind the Pandora where an x86 lacks everything is made for x86 not the Aspire One you have to remember that about x86 there won't be much optimization. I expect great things out of the pandora and wish i could field the money for one but I'm in high school and can't get a job with the economy the way it is. Drats. Anyway you may want to get a Pandora just because it is new and exciting and there will be a big initial boom because of it. I dunno what you are looking for but I hope I answered some of your questions and settled some of your qualms and indecisiveness.

Have a wonderful Day!
-Chris

 

[Username]

Netbooks are often sold as a "nifty" gadget. For the same price you can always just get a much better laptop, and it's not that much more weight to lug around.

 

[Ravnos]

1.6 GHz Intel Atom processor(It performs around the same as my IBM Pentium 3 733MHz (Really old Laptop) because it's dual cores are constantly swapping the load so CPU Wear is even, I guess, one core will be under 10% usage when the other one is at around 80-100% usage and they swap about every three to five seconds)

All netbooks currently have single core Atoms. You can buy dual core Atoms for desktop machines and DIY builds, but your Acer has a single core.

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After I loaded Xubuntu (I like it because it is lighter although if I had my way without slowdowns and OS issues I'd have Kubuntu)


Give Mandriva a try. I'm running it on two separate EeePCs, three if you include my gf's (a 701 and 2 1000HAs), and everything worked out of the box. I'm running Gnome with Compiz on my 1000HA and performance is great, and my gf and my 701 use KDE 3.5. Both of my Eee's have 2GB of RAM in them, but only the 701 really needed it.

I had a weird flickering issue for a while with Compiz, but I think it was related to window shadows and the GPU's piss poor amount of memory, but it seems to be fixed now.

 

[Samalthos]

1.6 GHz Intel Atom processor(It performs around the same as my IBM Pentium 3 733MHz (Really old Laptop) because it's dual cores are constantly swapping the load so CPU Wear is even, I guess, one core will be under 10% usage when the other one is at around 80-100% usage and they swap about every three to five seconds)

All netbooks currently have single core Atoms. You can buy dual core Atoms for desktop machines and DIY builds, but your Acer has a single core.

QUOTE

After I loaded Xubuntu (I like it because it is lighter although if I had my way without slowdowns and OS issues I'd have Kubuntu)


Give Mandriva a try. I'm running it on two separate EeePCs, three if you include my gf's (a 701 and 2 1000HAs), and everything worked out of the box. I'm running Gnome with Compiz on my 1000HA and performance is great, and my gf and my 701 use KDE 3.5. Both of my Eee's have 2GB of RAM in them, but only the 701 really needed it.

I had a weird flickering issue for a while with Compiz, but I think it was related to window shadows and the GPU's piss poor amount of memory, but it seems to be fixed now.


Really? because every operating system I've tried so far thinks the Atom is a dual core... Hmm I'll look into this find out why it thinks this. Thanks you may have given me information that explains why my CPU doesn't have and push behind it.

And I'll give mandriva a try probably with KDE 3.5, are there any special ways to install it via USB? because I don't have a USB CD/DVD Drive yet.

 

[Ravnos]

I've heard other people say the Atom shows up as a dual core processor too. I don't know for sure why, but the culprit I hear thrown around most is hyperthreading.

As for installing Mandriva from USB, you can use UNetBootIn to create a bootable USB drive from the Mandriva One ISO of your choice, but there's a little extra that needs to be done. When you format your USB drive, you need to set the disk label to MANDRIVAONE, and you need to download this file and unpack its contents to the root of the USB drive (overwriting the files that UNetBootIn put there.) That's about all it took me to get it installed. There's a more detailed article here if you need it, but there's nothing much more to it.

Neither version of Mandriva One come with KDE 3.5 out of the box (KDE 4 and Gnome are the choices), but it's in the repos. The repository model is a bit different than in Ubuntu, but this link will set up the tough stuff, and from there installing and updating is pretty much all point and click like Synaptic or Adept.