until someone shows me that the only reason we dont have a nds/psp/gamecube/ps3 emulator is because of lack of cpu power, stick with what we've got, so if you want more power, show me that 600mhz isnt enough for you, write a nds/psp/gamecube/ps3 emulator and show me
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SNESFAN
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I don't know how much more work it would be to prove a point, but I requested some time ago that someone port this nintendo ds emulator -> http://www.desmume.com/ the unanimous reply was it would be a waist of time because not enough power. I don't know how much would have to be re-written if a more powerful cpu came about. But I kinda agree it would be sort of a waist of time. Because alot of the base code would more than likely be changed between now and then and it would have to be re-written, also I'm sure whatever new cpu isn't going to be 100% compatible with what's out there now, or would it? It would be really cool to see as a semi-functional proof of concept that would work on future hardware (if it worked like that)
Can I pre-order one now? (not joking)
Actually, can I just subscribe to Pandora?
A new open-source, handheld emulation beast every 2 years would be pretty nifty.
lulzfish
Pandora Defense Squad
I want to emulate my Core 2 Duo laptop, I think we need more power.
But also I'd rather just wait until OPT has everything lined up, because at this point I'd be happy to have a Pandora that couldn't even emulate a Dreamcast. (I hate emulating for emulation's sake anyway)
Caine
Hardcore Member
You need to see a "working" PS3 emulator to understand that a 600 Mhz Cortex A8 can't emulate a cell processor at reasonable speed? I'm pretty confident that no matter how much effort you put into it, you're not going to succeed. I don't see any reason to waste a lot of time to even attempt it.
NDS and PSP might actually work to some degree, but it will require a lot of work. Feel free to volunteer.
Exophase
Nothing good will ever come of Exophase.
I'm pretty sure DaMummy is being sarcastic, as he often is..
Sugar_Kane
Could crush a grape
Of course he does, he's fucking Exophase
bzar
A Commando
Let's be polite and not blurt out private stuff like that on public forums.
SNESFAN
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Caine
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bzar
A Commando
:lol:
EDIT: I love it when swearing people use swear words in a way that, when interpreted literally, gives the whole sentence a hilarious new meaning
. This works especially well in finnish.
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sswam
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Will the greatest respect to ED, I think this is ridiculous. Would improving the processor on newer revisions upset people who've had their Pandora for months already, and fallen in love with it? The early pre-orderers and premium upgraders have got their great reward already, they've had so much longer to play with it! It'd be very nice to sweet things for the people who waited the longest.
What an insult, to deny them a better processor, so as not to offend early recipients? They really deserve 3 years of interest or whatever, a freebie processor upgrade is a small token, compared to what preorderers have given by funding the company.
If can have more RAM too, fantastic. I'll buy another one, and give my 1st edition one to my son.
The price for Pandoras has apparently gone up from $350 to $500. Nothing wrong with throwing in a faster processor at the higher price point either. I'm very happy with my 1GHZ-capable Pandora as it is, and wouldn't begrudge someone else 1.2GHZ and 512MB or whatever they can get with the other SoC.
Progress and improvement for the project is much more important than to be oversensitive imagining people's possible feelings and reactions! Hell, if people have stuck with the project this far, there's nothing OP can do to upset that.
What sort of person would want the current product to be inferior for no good reason, just so that their earlier purchase would remain the best available? Stop all progess now! That's just crazy.
Call it the Panodra 1b and charge an extra $50 for it if you like.
What an insult, to deny them a better processor, so as not to offend early recipients? They really deserve 3 years of interest or whatever, a freebie processor upgrade is a small token, compared to what preorderers have given by funding the company.
If can have more RAM too, fantastic. I'll buy another one, and give my 1st edition one to my son.
The price for Pandoras has apparently gone up from $350 to $500. Nothing wrong with throwing in a faster processor at the higher price point either. I'm very happy with my 1GHZ-capable Pandora as it is, and wouldn't begrudge someone else 1.2GHZ and 512MB or whatever they can get with the other SoC.
Progress and improvement for the project is much more important than to be oversensitive imagining people's possible feelings and reactions! Hell, if people have stuck with the project this far, there's nothing OP can do to upset that.
What sort of person would want the current product to be inferior for no good reason, just so that their earlier purchase would remain the best available? Stop all progess now! That's just crazy.
Call it the Panodra 1b and charge an extra $50 for it if you like.
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He said nothing about "nope, you won't get this processor, EVER!".
He just said that the current mainboard can't be used with this SoC.
Designing a new mainboard takes time and money, and they currently lack both of these.
Now case closed!
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Even though I'm pretty sure it's infeasible, I just really want to see someone with good POP soldering machinery/skills make an adapter board to convert signals from an OMAP4 to the OMAP3 pad on the Pandora. And if they're really on top of their game, build it into an expansion module that fits on the bottom of the Pandora like those expansion drives for the N64 and Gamecube. :lol:
Edit: I mean, just as a cool hack, not anything for production or whatnot.
Edit: I mean, just as a cool hack, not anything for production or whatnot.
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DoubleDash
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I think the 'nuclear reactor ' suggestion offers the best mileage
chris_r
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Basically this'll never happen. Even if theoretically someone were skilled enough to reroute all the wires it still wouldn't be a drop-in replacement because the chips are not the same. People seem to think that it's like the difference between an older and a newer intel processor, but this is not just the processor, this is the entire system on that chip. So the current pandora design is pretty much unusable for a new SoC unless someone has got microscopic soldering and modding skills and is willing to rewrite a lot of the code.
DavidBowman
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I think the 'nuclear reactor ' suggestion offers the best mileage
Nuclear is old and busted. The new hotness is fuel cell technology.
cosurgi
http://janek.kozicki.pl/
That's great I'll send you my pandora to do the upgrade, and pay for it as much as you want (almost
), whenever you are ready!
