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skeezix said:if you run a windowed app, it'll work fine.. like the browser; but you still only get one app at a time, no multitasking.
Wow, you even build in a iPhone-Emulator!!!!
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skeezix said:if you run a windowed app, it'll work fine.. like the browser; but you still only get one app at a time, no multitasking.
SteveM said:There is one: pandora/appdata/<application-id>Mr Loon said:Hey guys sounds like we need an agreed standard for where to store the appdata.
A standard for application IDs may be quite useful though...
The appdata directory goes under the pandora directory. The appdata folder names are either developer assigned named given in the pxml file, or the name of the application's PND if the developer omitted the information in the pxml. I'm not sure why you appended your username to the end of the folders. Also, the icon and other overrides go in the same directory as the application PND. Oh, and of course the applications are .pnd and not .app.KodeIn said:Sorry, sometimes I'm a bit dense, but I don't really get how PND and appdata folder are working.
That's why I'm posting this mockup of how I was thinking PND would work:
[wall of text]
Where am I wrong?
If an application wants to have a separate appdata folder for each version, then it can easily manage that by itself.skeezix said:Zeno -- thats how it is, but not version; thats not his problem though(and if you did it by version, it would mean every time you upgrade the app, you lose your data
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Presumably most apps are okay with version upgrades, so UAE4ALL will have a UAE4ALL appdata dir (its a name chosen by the developer, not some random number) for all of time .. so its great![]()
It's only a matter of time until someone writes a "right click->delete PND and appdata" script.fusion_power said:I would prefer the automatic system from the Pandora but it sounds like it will bne a huge mess, if you want to delete something right. I guess there is no uninstall program onto the Pandora that cleans everything you want (or not want).
Definitely bug. Deleting should go to the trash folder on the same media, meaning it should be moved to the trash folder on the SD card, not to the NAND. And it only affects deleting from the file manager. You can still delete stuff from the command line with "rm". You should also be able to hold shift before hitting delete and it will just delete rather than go to the trash, but due to a different feature, this feature is bugged out.fusion_power said:AND I've hered that you don't even can delete anything from the Pandora itself without beeing it copyed to the NAND. (???)
I don't want copy, when I want to delete so is this a bug or a feature? :lol:
The problem here is, the Trash folder is in your home directory, which is (SUPRISE!) on the NAND. If you send something to the Trash (default delete action) it gets written to the NAND.fusion_power said:AND I've hered that you don't even can delete anything from the Pandora itself without beeing it copyed to the NAND. (???)
I don't want copy, when I want to delete so is this a bug or a feature? :lol:
Open Thunar
Click Edit -> Configure Custom Actions...
Click Add (the green plus)
Type "Delete Permanently" into the Name box
Type "rm -fr %F" into the command box
Give it an icon if you want.
Click Ok
Click Close
Go delete something important.
fusion_power said:This all here confuses me alot. :blink:
Well, I guess I will see what's it about when I have my Pandora. At the Moment, it sounds very complicated here, at least much much more complicated than I do file management under Windows. Yes, since Vista, every app stores their configs in user dirs all over the place, but at least during installation I can choose where I want the Program Data stored. ^^""
If this is possible and prevents the System to write to the NAND, it's deinitive an option.WizardStan said:Alternatively, somewhere, you can turn off the trash bin entirely so everything you delete always gets deleted. This means you can't recover something you do accidentally delete though, so turn off at own risk.
I know this from my PC but at the Moment, Shift+Del doesn't work at the Pandora because of the mapping of the shift key AFAIK.mindlord said:Solution: Hold shift when deleting files to bypass the trash bin.
Any decent file manager provides a flat view mode. Enable flat view, sort by type and delete all PNDs. Though I'm personally in favour of a separate appdata directory.EvilDragon said:If the saved games were in the same directories as the PND files (and you have them managed within subdirs), you'd need to manually open each one of those 100 dirs and manually delete the PND file without selecting the subdir for the saves... takes up a lot of time.
You know, essentially you're suggesting to make a package manager for PNDs. Some basic operations of such a package manager can be associated with the PND files in the file manager.EvilDragon said:What would be nice is a small tool to manage those PNDs.
That tool could easily let you delete games including config files, keeping config files, checking for a newer version in the net of all your games, find all orphaned application-data directories and remove them, etc.
Not too hard to code - but no one has done it yet.
But the way the system is setup right now, it would be very easy to code such an application.
mindlord said:The appdata directory goes under the pandora directory. The appdata folder names are either developer assigned named given in the pxml file, or the name of the application's PND if the developer omitted the information in the pxml. I'm not sure why you appended your username to the end of the folders. Also, the icon and other overrides go in the same directory as the application PND. Oh, and of course the applications are .pnd and not .app.![]()
The first thing I am going to do is switch shift and alt back to defaults. I'm sorry ED, but this is was not a wise decision, IMHO.fusion_power said:I know this from my PC but at the Moment, Shift+Del doesn't work at the Pandora because of the mapping of the shift key AFAIK.
I'm sure, OPT will find a effective solution.![]()
craigix said:When this gets the DaveC seal of approval only THEN is the format complete.
Nothing less.
I agree with you completely. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future DaveC changes his mind. Initially when I started using Linux, the filesystem organisation felt awkward and messy. These days it actually makes more sense than what windows used to do.skeezix said:ie: I'm fairly sure the default behaviour is right, in that its the same more or less as every major OS in the last decade, and two.. its very easy to use, with no set up. Thats 'right'.
But as in all things, options are good, and as everyone knows, I do love me having a million options.
Its simply configuration choice; some people like it one way or another, but the average joe day zero has to be factored in
