NOKIA 3310 is back!

[ThinkPad]

https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/nokia-3310

Oh boy, it looks good,
I cant wait to throw away my Note 3 and iPhone SE,
and replace them with LTE Pyra and Dual Sim Nokia 3310.
(Yeah, I will have 3 SIM Cards/mobile numbers)

 

[ElPoco]

Watch out: it's 2G only, and operators are dismantling their 2G networks. Depending on your country, it's possible that you won't be able to use it in some months/years.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Watch out: it's 2G only, and operators are dismantling their 2G networks. Depending on your country, it's possible that you won't be able to use it in some months/years.

Sounds pertinent for the US, but as far as I know, UK coverage seems like it would be fine for a number of years yet. Not sure about Europe, and certainly also a consideration if you're traveling abroad and expect to be able to use it...

 

[Wally]

I wonder why they didn't bother updating to 4G.. Idiots..

Useless in Australia now.

 

[Neelix]

That seems somewhat... short-sighted... if they're updating the design anyway you'd think they'd at least make it compatible with modern phone networks.

-Neelix

 

[PowerGod]

No interchangeable cover (with screen protector) = No Nokia 3310

 

[ElPoco]

It's probably a matter of costs. 3G/4G chipset are more expensive (including higher licensing costs), and they'd probably have to add some additional software development on top.

 

[MrConfusion]

That's just a basic Nokia phone like: http://www.elgiganten.se/product/mobil-tele-gps/mobiltelefoner/NOK105BK/nokia-105-mobiltelefon-svart
Only with "retroish" looks (which I personally think don't even look good :-( )?

Bah... I already got high hopes :-(.

Add and allow 2G/3G/4G as a user setting (for calls, simply for futureproofing) + BW LCD (or for nutcases like me even e-ink, which, unfortunately, would have confused the average consumer no end...) + away with the camera and SD slots... THEN I might have been interested .
Package it up like the good old 6250 and I'd order two right away and cross my fingers hoping at least 4G stays usable forever ;-).
Oh: no need for apps or anything, but the OS needs to be rock solid, essentially the philosophy needs to be: boot it up when you get it, then reboot whenever you switch a SIM.

The killer feature would have been practically eternal battery life and not needing to think about phones for the next 10 years..

I know there are feature phones that pretty much tick the other boxes, but software quality often turns out to be the issue when you read user opinions. After receiving color screens, even the basic Nokias started having odd hickups...


Then again, I'm not totally unhappy with my current phone: A Windows phone into which I've downloaded the maps and dictionaries I need and then switched off data, forced to 2G and enabled battery saving. How often I now need to charge depends on whether I activate the Wifi between charges or use the GPS. It can last a working week but I might run out of juice during friday if I forget to check the battery thursday night and have received several calls during the week.
Annoyingly a couple of times I've used the GPS the battery has basically diminished so fast I had to dig up a powerpack while driving :-(.
Basically: a smartphone with the smarts turned off as well as possible can have "sort of" nice battery life... a week is enough... but then you can't expect it to be charged when you do need it to be smart?-)

 

[kuru]

A novelty, sadly. No 3g tethering means no sale for me. Heck I wouldn't own that Note 3 if it weren't for drawing on a thing that fits in my pocket. I hate Samsung and Android.
I want a linux driven 3g-enabled wacom tablet thing that runs gimp in my pocket. Gimme a Pyra Wacom phablet damnit. /rant

 

[comradekingu]

Is this made in Finland nokia or Indian nokia?

4G probably only makes sense if you are trying to build something that costs over 100 dollars or so.
On a barebone phone, every cent matters. A disproportionate amount would have to go to radios.

That being said, they will probably make a 4G model later, something that has long battery life would be a market.

 

[Letalis Sonus]

I was looking forward to finally having found an adequate replacement for my 6110 when I heard that they were doing a 3310 revival, but there's no way in hell I would even consider that abomination.

Is this made in Finland nokia or Indian nokia?

It's from HMD, not Nokia. They outsource manufacturing to Foxconn.

 

[Cloudef]

They should've used different name. This phone really sucks and it's sad since I was actually looking forward for re-release so I could buy it and replace my crappy smartphone with it.
If they wanted to make 3310 inspired phone, then they even failed at there, by not having any redeeming qualities from the original phone. 1) It adds camera and bigger colored screen which affect battery life 2) They change software thus changing user experience 3) Was the durability even checked? Instead, they should've considered 1) Doing e-ink phone, the screen doesn't have to be big, especially if aiming for small form factor 2) Keep the original numpad 3) Not have camera 4) Original software, updated to work with the eink, these changes would've improved the portability and battery life of original device. Of course durability should not be overlooked if going for smaller form factor.

I'm sort of sad since I was sort of looking for it even though I expected this happens. The modern phones and their software stack is just pile of shit and you are lucky if they even last a day on battery.
3310 also had quite sort of firmware hacking going on and was looking for porting bad apple over to it. (It was all C)

A novelty, sadly. No 3g tethering means no sale for me. Heck I wouldn't own that Note 3 if it weren't for drawing on a thing that fits in my pocket. I hate Samsung and Android. I want a linux driven 3g-enabled wacom tablet thing that runs gimp in my pocket. Gimme a Pyra Wacom phablet damnit. /rant

You probably want the wacom mobile studio pro. It has no official linux support (and you will void warranty if you replace the OS), but unofficially it works with linux (with latest kernel at least) and even allows you to use it as external display without the "wacom link" thing. Though it's expensive as hell for something with no company support.

 

[levi]

I'm actually reasonably happy with the OS on this thing. It's a series 30 phone, which is an OS made by a fair number of the same finnish people that made the old NOS that ran on the old 3310 - it's an old feature phone os that'll run j2me apps and little else.

I agree elsewhere. That enormous screen is not something I want, and neither do I especially want another crappy camera. Durability and xpress-on covers would make it a lot more wantable, and just having WCDMA support would have almost guaranteed a sale at that price point anyway (because the best network for price and coverage here is 3G only).

 

[Cloudef]

I'm actually reasonably happy with the OS on this thing. It's a series 30 phone, which is an OS made by a fair number of the same finnish people that made the old NOS that ran on the old 3310 - it's an old feature phone os that'll run j2me apps and little else.

From user perspective / functionally, I agree. From technical point of view however it's shitstorm and at the time when Java people wondered where they could belong when they could not get work it anywhere else. And thus j2me was born, and now we have java shit on Android for example (and what worse, java is only used as glue code and as application / userland facing code, and I can't think of force language for writing glue code). I would not like to hack that thing.

 

[MrConfusion]

1) Doing e-ink phone, the screen doesn't have to be big, especially if aiming for small form factor

Slow, way too slow with ghosting effects to boot. People would complain even if warned about it. Whenever I show my e-ink devices to people it becomes painfully obvious: they do not "get it". When I view a PDF page by page they "kinda accept", because after all "flipping a page takes time too". But moving in menus etc. leaves them scratching their heads.

A black and white LCD like on the old Pebbles would have been a better fit. Assuming the display needs to be updated every minute additional battery saving would have been minimal using an eink, but of course eink wins in clarity and readability hands down...

It's a series 30 phone, which is an OS made by a fair number of the same finnish people that made the old NOS that ran on the old 3310 - it's an old feature phone os that'll run j2me apps and little else.

Made by MediaTek to look like it has something to do with the original and not even capable of running those said j2me apps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_30+
Quite why this abomination even exists evades me, probably has to do with component support and/or too much middle management...

 

[Cloudef]

Slow, way too slow with ghosting effects to boot. People would complain even if warned about it. Whenever I show my e-ink devices to people it becomes painfully obvious: they do not "get it". When I view a PDF page by page they "kinda accept", because after all "flipping a page takes time too". But moving in menus etc. leaves them scratching their heads.

You don't watch videos or play games on this thing. You literally read / write text and call.

Made by MediaTek to look like it has something to do with the original and not even capable of running those said j2me apps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_30+

Totally missed this too, no idea what to think about that. I wonder what stack exactly is that, and is that opera mini just branded software from opera hmm..

 

[levi]

Made by MediaTek to look like it has something to do with the original and not even capable of running those said j2me apps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_30+

Oh, I'd missed that, thanks!

 

[Letalis Sonus]

They should've used different name.

To be fair, HMD is more Nokia than Nokia itself. It's not just a random company that wants to turn the name into a cash cow, it was founded by several Nokia ex-managers.