dpoarch
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I dont care if it cant play 3d games if it could play 2d ps1 games that would be awesome. Also wont it not take as much power to emulate the ps1 on the gp32 than a computer because of the smaller screen?
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iignotus
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No. Just no.Whole lotta love posted on Sep 5 2005 at 02:18 PM said:
The GP2X is only more powerful than the Zodiac depending on who you ask. If you ask a PSX emu developer, they will most certainly say the Zodiac is more powerful. It has a 3D gfx processor. That's what matters. The GP2X doesn't, and therefore good 3D PSX emulation is literally impossible, no matter how good a developer you have. Same thing with 'very good' 2D PSX emulation.
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Prophet
God I'm old.
iignotus posted on Sep 5 2005 at 09:41 PM said:
The Zodiac does NOT have a 3D gfx processor. In case you are unaware of my background - I personally wrote the first Zodiac FAQ, am one of ZodiacGamer's founders (I even created the site name "ZodiacGamer"), and personally emailed with one of the Zodiac's primary engineers about its hardware.
The Zodiac's ATI Imageon is a 2D ONLY chip. Period.
Any 3D on the Zodiac is software based.
As for PSX emulation, I've played FPSEce on PocketPC's YEARS AGO - they had NO 3D acceleration, and you could play games like Raiden Project and Ridge Racer. No sound, but frame rates were actually smooth and the games very playable. The only thing that sucked were the lousy controls on Pocket PC's.
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Prophet
God I'm old.
Well, keep in mind that was a 400Mhz PocketPC that could OC to over 500Mhz. 
So I wouldn't expect the same sort of speed on GPX2. It all depends on how useful that 2nd CPU is, maybe on whether or not both CPU's can be OC'ed etc. If LDchen tries porting his emu for it, maybe we'll find out if it can be playable.
So I wouldn't expect the same sort of speed on GPX2. It all depends on how useful that 2nd CPU is, maybe on whether or not both CPU's can be OC'ed etc. If LDchen tries porting his emu for it, maybe we'll find out if it can be playable.
efegea
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Prophet posted on Sep 6 2005 at 12:53 AM said:Well, keep in mind that was a 400Mhz PocketPC that could OC to over 500Mhz.
So I wouldn't expect the same sort of speed on GPX2. It all depends on how useful that 2nd CPU is, maybe on whether or not both CPU's can be OC'ed etc. If LDchen tries porting his emu for it, maybe we'll find out if it can be playable.
I think the second procesor can be used as GPU (software GPU, I mean) and the first doing the emulation.
I think a PSX emulator IS possible, at least at semi-decent speeds. The psx emulator some guy ported to the gp32 emulator (he didn't have any gp32) ran about 1-4 fps. But the gp32 emulator is like a 33mhz gp32. It doesn't meant anything. But we still can hope
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iignotus
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Oh wow. That's pretty mind-blowing. I knew it was ATI, and therefore assumed that it was 3D. I'll be damned, lol; thanks for that info.Prophet posted on Sep 5 2005 at 05:41 PM said:
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Alpha2
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We had a PSone emmulator on GP32, granted it wasnt anywhere near playable but the fact is if one could be made on the old had where one can be made onthe new hardware, the only real question is how playable it will be.
Frankly I doubt it matters as the attempt to actually run a PSone game on the 2X will be the only challange the developer is interested in conquering. Any playability would only be a pleasant secondary result.
In all likelyhood you MIGHT get something 3D that played at 10 fps with horrible sound and it'd would suck for anyone looking to play crash bandicoot but it would technically still be a working emulator to the developer.
Frankly I doubt it matters as the attempt to actually run a PSone game on the 2X will be the only challange the developer is interested in conquering. Any playability would only be a pleasant secondary result.
In all likelyhood you MIGHT get something 3D that played at 10 fps with horrible sound and it'd would suck for anyone looking to play crash bandicoot but it would technically still be a working emulator to the developer.
unlucky
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I think ps1 is pretty impossible but just the idea of playing redalert or orignal command and conquer or gta 1 keeps me wishing though gta is quite 3d
though gta is quite 3dWell now you have opened me up a little more.....oh.....yeah.
I suppose the possibilities could include the following:-
-Dosbox or dos emulator(eg, Warcraft 2 !!)
-Unreal Tournament(I know this can be software based on linux and runs on a 233mhz processor - anyone please enlighten me!)
-Full speed emulators for all 8-bit\16-bit consoles and computers
-Some form of windows operating system emulation?(WinCE?)
I suppose the possibilities could include the following:-
-Dosbox or dos emulator(eg, Warcraft 2 !!)
-Unreal Tournament(I know this can be software based on linux and runs on a 233mhz processor - anyone please enlighten me!)
-Full speed emulators for all 8-bit\16-bit consoles and computers
-Some form of windows operating system emulation?(WinCE?)
Hanz™
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Nobody has the time to do a dos emulator for the PG32 that I know of.timthepig posted on Sep 6 2005 at 12:25 PM said:
Unreal Tournament, the source is not free, as far as I know, and besides 233mhz on a PC is better than 200mhz + 200mhz on a GP2X as far as I know.
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Jarska333
What do you want?
iignotus posted on Sep 5 2005 at 06:35 PM said:
Not every PS game uses polygons. Par example, many rpg's use basic sprites.
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dosbox or another dosemu could be portable, but slow.. perhaps some 286 games will be playable.
-UnrealTournament, i dont think so, first thing is its not opensource and second the engine is stronger than the Quake 2 engine, we first have to get this running
-Fullspeed all 8 and 16, hmm could be possible
-why windows operating system? WinCE could be possible but is illegal, linux is free and has the same features, if not better.
-UnrealTournament, i dont think so, first thing is its not opensource and second the engine is stronger than the Quake 2 engine, we first have to get this running
-Fullspeed all 8 and 16, hmm could be possible
-why windows operating system? WinCE could be possible but is illegal, linux is free and has the same features, if not better.
OrR
Corporate games suck.
I don't think RTS without a touchscreen can be much fun.Cyclops posted on Sep 6 2005 at 02:28 PM said:
@Sonic-NKT: I don't think emulating WinCe would be illegal but I can't see the point either.
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