Lik- Sang's Shit List

[Paradox]

haha, whoever researched the 2X over at lik-sang was an idiot and should look into other area of proffession because he obviously sucks at his job.

 

[deadlychicken22]

the following problems are fixed (either thru firmware or apps):
• There are reports of Xvid playing too fast, and DivX sound not in sync with video.
• The speakers are mono instead of stereo.
• Uneven color distribution on the screen and other LCD problems.
• Compatibility problems with some brands, types or sizes of Flash Cards.

The following "problems" never existed:
• There is no power supply or charger included with the GP2X.
• Headphone channels are switched, left is not left.
• The action buttons are too small. Your thumb can cover all four.
• Long boot time (28 seconds).

The following problems don't really matter if you invest in a few things:
• There is a battery problem, 2 hours battery-life with standard batteries only. [5 hour battery life if you use good rechargables]
• USB Connection and incompatibility problems with Windows XP (apparently fixed with latest Firmware). [get a card reader! They are <$10!]

Here are the remaining "problems" :
• Stereo jack sinks on some units, because of poor soldering.
[Mine is fine and I'm sure craig has talked to gph about this and they will most likely improve.]
• There is a large joystick deadzone (that can be fixed with a "mod" according to a distributor).
[This deadzone is so large that I haven't noticed it yet. I hear many people complaining about it here but I realy don't find it a big deal.....]
• Practically many videos are not playable without capping them.
[This will be fixed in future firmwares. As of now, it works perfectly for me as all of my videos are .avi and either divx or xvid, both of which work.]

[long, generally pointless rant including many accounts of "problems" he/she has most likely taken straight from lik-sang]

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you really don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about.

The gp2x LCD is still crap, and it takes a pretty blind guy not to notice it.

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Actually the gp2x LCD is one of the best (if not the best) I have ever seen on a handheld game system. What you are talking about isn't the LCD's problem, it is a problem with the settings. If it was truly a problem with the LCD the lcd tweaker wouldn't be able to fix it. My LCD looks perfect. Crystal clear, no blurring, no stuck or dead pixels, no widescreen. The gp2x's LCD kills the psp's lcd in every way.

 

[jmetal88]

My thumb definately covers all four. However, that is not a problem, because it is still very hard to accidentally hit 2 buttons at once.

The LCD display is brilliant when proper settings are used. (Unfortunately, I have not found the proper settings for mine, UPLL + or - 2 is better, but I still see the scanlines while watching video.)

 

[furikuri]

Isn' t the GP2X screen the same as the GP32 BLU+? Even with the lcd tweaker I still havn't been able to get the GP2X's screen to look as good as the GP32's screen.

 

[Blah]

Aren't you supposed to be able to hit at least 3 buttons at the same time?

 

[Squidge]

Actually, with the way I hold my 2x, I'd be rather mad if I couldnt press a couple of buttons at once with my thumb. I've never hit more than one by accident though.

 

[Paradox]

its easily possible to hit all 4 buttons at the same time, but where and i ask for the 5th time now WHERE did that turn into a bad thing? like squidge said, its not like you hit more than 1 by accident though, you'd have to have pretty fat fingers to accidentily hit more than 1 button

 

[gaterooze]

You couldn't play Super Mario Bros. and many other retro games without being able to hit 2 buttons at once...

I think deadlychicken22 summed it all up pretty well.

 

[craigix]

I got a lot more stress from returned and faulty PSP's than GP2X.

So many PSP's had button problems and screen problems it was crazy, and it was hardware, not software.

Also of course because the PSP was much more mainstream people expected absolute perfection, which at the time the PSP didn't deliver. And Sony would not accept back units with screen issues. Twunts.

 

[telengard]

Here are the remaining "problems" :
• Stereo jack sinks on some units, because of poor soldering.
[Mine is fine and I'm sure craig has talked to gph about this and they will most likely improve.]
• There is a large joystick deadzone (that can be fixed with a "mod" according to a distributor).
[This deadzone is so large that I haven't noticed it yet. I hear many people complaining about it here but I realy don't find it a big deal.....]
• Practically many videos are not playable without capping them.
[This will be fixed in future firmwares. As of now, it works perfectly for me as all of my videos are .avi and either divx or xvid, both of which work.]

I had 1.01 when I received mine and the boot time didn't seem long nor did the LCD seem bad. Maybe I lucked out and got a unit that didn't exhibit these issues. So far I am *very* pleased. My only gripe is the joystick. For the games I tend to play it's awful. There is a huge dead-zone (as mentioned) and I trigger diags way too easily. Also going right seems to work 1 out of 5 times and goes up instead. I have no doubt there will be fixes for these though so I'm not worried in the least. I also know there are tweaks I could do etc but I'm not sure I want to try that stuff out yet.

Some of the 'non issues' I don't even understand how they were brought up. The buttons are very well spaced for a handheld.

~telengard

 

[thejoeandchip]

Man guys, most of you are still doing nothing but defending the gp2x. This can be misleading to someone new to the gp2x or a parent buying one for there child who is unaware that they need to "tweak" and read dozens of post in a forum or search a wiki to get the thing to work well. How should a non-tech savy mom know how to flash firmware or mod a joystick? It isn't very consumer friendly to throw a new firmware at people.
All of these problems (well, not the button one) had been addressed at one time or another on this very board. Now to say that they are all non-existent is just sad.
Just the fact that you need to defend your glorious console and complain about big bad stores is what proves this thing has flaws. Are some of the flaws easily fixed? Sure, but not easy enough for GPH to do it for you.

telengard - i like your mame cab, i was planning on buying a jamma cab for room and was about to until i told my parent what a jamma cab was. It didn't fly to well, i do like the monitor on wheel design, i was hoping to do that. You might want to get a real arcade monitor though. They are pretty.

 

[cbox]

I didn't have any of these issues people keep bitching about. My LCD screen looks fine to me, no flickering or anything, it's the best screen on a handheld I've had ever. I don't notice any kind of dead zone on the joystick, only issue I have with stick is sometimes I have problems with diagonals. Buttons seem fine to me as well. I'm glad I didn't go with lik-sang and went with the British company instead, they did a great job in getting them out.

 

[alucks]

How should a non-tech savy mom know how to flash firmware or mod a joystick? It isn't very consumer friendly to throw a new firmware at people.

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Not that I think the problems with the GP2X are acceptable, I don't think it was really designed for the plug-and-play laymen. I think it's implicit that someone purchasing a gp2x has to have a certain amount of technical know-how in order to get anything from it. It's people who are into electronics and computig who are able to deal with the problems so they aren't such a big issue.

So really, it's not expected that a non-tech savy mom would be able to flash a firmware. Hence consoles like the psp which are more aimed at them don't require any mods or flashes.

 

[Qingdan]

Anyway, a non tech mom would need to be pretty hightech sensitive to buy a GP2X , a handheld you can't even buy in a 'physical' store.

GP2X is designed to computer aware people just like the GP32 was ...
You need at least to know to read 'readmes' , handle files and flash firmwares.

Nontech mom would buy a Gameboy or a PSP anyway .

I did not give a GP32 to my girlfriend, since she's not that good with computer, although she knows quite a lot now ... When I setup my GP32 and lend it to her she was soooooo happy though, playing Famicom classics

 

[dennis20014]

The only complaint I'd have, and it doesn't really bother me much at all, is the joystick is a little stiff going left on games. Thats it though, nothin big, mines a great unit! lol

 

[Drag]

On my LCD, I don't really see 'scanlines', but I DO see some sort of weird interlacing going on, which is probably what you guys mean when you say 'scanlines'. Either way, it's not much of a bother for me. The LCD tweaker doesn't really fix it either... it just makes the screen lighter, which in turn may REDUCE the appearance of the interlacing, but it's still there.

About the deadzone... on the GP32, you have to push the thumbstick all the way in a direction before it registers. Same thing with GP2X. The only difference is that the GP2X's joystick is MUCH stiffer than the GP32's, and even then, I'm thinking maybe with regular usage, it'll loosen up.

On the GP2X, it's WAY too easy to hit diagonals. On the GP32, it was harder to hit diagonals (which is better), except when it was TOO hard to hit diagonals (a problem many people had, but was fixable through various means).

About the sound... at first, I thought my GP2X wasn't making any noise at all! But then I realized I just wasn't running any games that produced sound. I don't really like how the only way to control the volume is through software... I mean, if I really needed to turn the volume down in a hurry, what if the game I'm playing didn't support volume changing? Oh well, this is what headphones are for.

One thing I'm suprised about is the fact that I was able to upgrade from 1.0.1 to 1.1.0 without any problems whatsoever. I was looking through various threads here that made upgrading seem like some tedious task that had a 80% chance of mucking up your gp2x, but that's really not the case. In fact, it took maybe half of a minute for the firmware to complete the upgrade.

I, too, am able to cover all four buttons with my thumb, BUT I can also do that on my DS, and just as easily too.

A problem I had with my GP2X was the fact that the 1gb SD card (sandisk) that I purchased was not able to be read by the card reader that was built into my computer. Luckily, I recieved a USB card reader in the bundle (not in the GP2X box, but it WAS shipped with it), and I am able to read/write to the card with that.

There's one thing bothering me though... does the GP2X's screen work in sunlight? If I recall correctly, the BLU GP32's LCD screen was hard to see in bright sunlight.

Anyway, those are my gripes and praises for the GP2X. And yeah, I really hope something can be done about that joystick... be it software or hardware. (concerning the problem with the diagonals being too easy to hit)

 

[Rayek]

Man guys, most of you are still doing nothing but defending the gp2x. This can be misleading to someone new to the gp2x or a parent buying one for there child who is unaware that they need to "tweak" and read dozens of post in a forum or search a wiki to get the thing to work well. How should a non-tech savy mom know how to flash firmware or mod a joystick? It isn't very consumer friendly to throw a new firmware at people.
All of these problems (well, not the button one) had been addressed at one time or another on this very board. Now to say that they are all non-existent is just sad.
Just the fact that you need to defend your glorious console and complain about big bad stores is what proves this thing has flaws. Are some of the flaws easily fixed? Sure, but not easy enough for GPH to do it for you.

telengard - i like your mame cab, i was planning on buying a jamma cab for room and was about to until i told my parent what a jamma cab was. It didn't fly to well, i do like the monitor on wheel design, i was hoping to do that. You might want to get a real arcade monitor though. They are pretty.

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First of all, nooone is saying that the GP2X is easy to work with by nature, that's just the way it is. Parent shouldn't buy this thing for thier three year olds. Some of these faults aren't even faults though, and for a distributor to wait until thise so-called 'problems' are fixed is ludicrous.

To your gripe about how we say most of this stuff is nonexistant, things change, and most things are fixed... Read the sub under the topic title, I'm asking what's been fixed.

I'm griping about a bad store because I invested my money there and, as of yet, I'm waiting for a date that will not arrive before I get my unit. This is utterly rediculous for a company to accept pre-orders for a unit that HAS to fit certain criteria, and never will. Basically, they're making bank on a promise of a better, 'improved unit', and accepting preorders is just insane!

 

[furikuri]

On my LCD, I don't really see 'scanlines', but I DO see some sort of weird interlacing going on, which is probably what you guys mean when you say 'scanlines'. Either way, it's not much of a bother for me. The LCD tweaker doesn't really fix it either... it just makes the screen lighter, which in turn may REDUCE the appearance of the interlacing, but it's still there.

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Shouldn't there be a way to make a lot of the interlacing go away like the gp32's screen? Also, how is the screen interlacing with HH?

 

[stinch]

The following "problems" never existed:
• Headphone channels are switched, left is not left.
• Long boot time (28 seconds).

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My unit suffers from both those problems so how can they have never existed?

 

[fade]

I see the problems with the shape of the thumbstick as an opportunity for someone else. Is anyone else thinking of designing a much more comfortable to use thumbstick that can just screw in place of the old one? Maybe even have a range, like swapable faceplates for mobile phones, customised thumbsticks....