Gph Caanoo Tv Out Solution Test

[andymanone]

Here you can see a short demonstration of Caanoo´s TV-Out:

(to make it possible, i´ve used a selfmade cable and a special
TV out tool from GPH)

(Good decision: NTSC and PAL now available !(for the Wiz only NTSC <_< ) )

.


Gtx.,
andY

 

[rbusa]

Here you can see a short demonstration of Caanoo´s TV-Out:

(to make it possible, i´ve used a selfmade cable and a special
TV out tool from GPH)

(Good decision: NTSC and PAL now available !(for the Wiz only NTSC <_< ) )

.


Gtx.,
andY

Am I right that PAL cannot encode NTSC's colors?

 

[andymanone]

Am I right that PAL cannot encode NTSC's colors?

Most of actually TV sets are able to work with NTSC or PAL sources.
(But often i use a little older Philips CRT Monitor for my retro computers and consoles,
and this one can ony works with pal.)

BR,
andY

 

[SiENcE]

Is the TVTool on the Caanoo, or where did you get it?

 

[andymanone]

Is the TVTool on the Caanoo, or where did you get it?

Hi SiENcE,
no its not included in the Caanoo Firmware (which is shown on the video, is a tool
i got it from GPH)

But don´t afraid, after the official Caanoo launch, this tool will be available for everybody


BR,
andY

 

[klikklak]

So what resolution does it support on the tv-out?

 

[andymanone]

So what resolution does it support on the tv-out?

Hi,
actually it supports (depends on type) the following resolutions:

NTSC : 720x480
PAL : 720x576


Gtx, andY

 

[SiENcE]

Ok, but the screen is 320x240. So, is the nativ output resolution NTSC : 720x480, PAL : 720x576 or is it 320x240 -> scaled Up to -> 720x576 by TVOut chip?

 

[klikklak]

I fail to see how native resolution has anything to do with anything. If I buy a gfx card I don't care if the max resolution it can do is 2.5kX1.6k (or so). So yeah, if it can spit out that resolution on the tv-out it should be 'real'. If not I'll declare myself living in the 90's.

 

[SiENcE]

Normally the framebuffer is copied directly to tvout chipset. This chipset scales the image to the right size PAL/NTSC (+overscan).

Only the newest consoles like ps3 and xbox360 can render internally such high resolutions. Thats why they can output 480p, 720p, 1080p. Every other pre-nexgen consoles render internally a lower size (PS: Video output resolution: variable from 256x224 to 1280x1024 pixels). But 1280x1024 i meant only interlaced. So they render only 512lines and only in Grad Tourismo 4.

 

[Squarefish]

I fail to see how native resolution has anything to do with anything. If I buy a gfx card I don't care if the max resolution it can do is 2.5kX1.6k (or so). So yeah, if it can spit out that resolution on the tv-out it should be 'real'. If not I'll declare myself living in the 90's.

Funny post!

Though I'd argue native resolution has EVERYTHING to do with development + cross-platformability.

But you might not care. Heh

 

[Squarefish]

I think we all forgot to say, well done on the test!

 

[SiENcE]

Ah shure. Well done .

 

[sbock]

Indeed. +1, andy!

 

[klikklak]

Normally the framebuffer is copied directly to tvout chipset. This chipset scales the image to the right size PAL/NTSC (+overscan).

Only the newest consoles like ps3 and xbox360 can render internally such high resolutions. Thats why they can output 480p, 720p, 1080p. Every other pre-nexgen consoles render internally a lower size (PS: Video output resolution: variable from 256x224 to 1280x1024 pixels). But 1280x1024 i meant only interlaced. So they render only 512lines and only in Grad Tourismo 4.

Right, but the SOC is fairly recent so I'm surprised if it doesn't support VGA-level resolutions internally. And what makes tv-out/composite special? I mean, it's just a output port, sure capped by the cable, but ok for the levels we're getting.

and the consoles before current gen are something like 8 years old now? mostly before there was a need for HD for something that's plugged in to a tv.

EDIT: +1 for andy for this post and the others you've done.

 

[kanamycin]

Sorry if it's obvious already, but how was this connected? Standard RCA or S-video or component or what?

Also, that plug looks like... A Samsung phone adapter? Is it the same? Sorry, new to all this.

 

[sbock]

Hi kanamycin.

Yeah, it's RCA no s-video unfortunately.

Yes, it's a plug used in many Samsung and LG phones.

Look here.

 

[kanamycin]

Sweet, I have an older TV...

 

[b1ueskycomp1ex]

Here you can see a short demonstration of Caanoo´s TV-Out:

(to make it possible, i´ve used a selfmade cable and a special
TV out tool from GPH)

(Good decision: NTSC and PAL now available !(for the Wiz only NTSC <_< ) )

Gtx.,
andY

Will GPH actually be making a TV-OUT cable for the caanoo? Are the pinouts the same as the GP2X, the Wiz, or entirely different? It's sort of sad that there's no support for TV-OUT on the wiz. :[

 

[RupeeClock]

Will GPH actually be making a TV-OUT cable for the caanoo? Are the pinouts the same as the GP2X, the Wiz, or entirely different? It's sort of sad that there's no support for TV-OUT on the wiz. :[

It looks like they actually will, but what they have displayed is...confusing.
http://fungp.com/product/accessory.asp

It looks like a Caanoo port male end and a USB male end, how is that supposed to work?