Disillusioned?

[sh191976]

It seems to me that some people are developing a negative attitude towards our favourite handheld, and seem to have doubts regarding its capabilities. I remember when I first got my GP32 and (finally, after messing about with the PC software) ran my favourite arcade game, R-Type, on GPEngine and being amazed at the quality of the emulation. I thought at the time, and still believe, that my GP32 is the ONLY technology related item I have ever bought that has exceeded my expectations, from buying my righteous 3D voodoo 1 accelerator to my current PC and all related items everything has been a let-down to some extent except my GP32.

I would like to thank everybody who has developed software for the GP32 for providing me with something to do on night-shift, I am eternally grateful, Long live the GP32 community.

I hope to start coding for GP at some point, but 2 kids, a wife and a full time job make things very difficult for me. Hopefully I can give something back to the community in the future.

Cheers, Ste

 

[Azure]

It's just that there are sooo many things unfinished and soo many things, in my opinion, long over due. We still don't have perfect GB/GBC emulation (I'm never using fGB again since it erased my Zelda saves and I'd still like to see color support for monochrome games) and I believe SMS emulation isn't perfect yet either (fSMS has some capatibility problems). PCE emulation is wonderful, except for the fact that there are still many games that don't work, like Military Madness. Then there's the NGPC. It seems like we'd easily be able to achieve perfect emulation but the only emu we have is ThunderZ's, which doesn't have sound and hasn't been updated in ages. I think if we could just fix these small holes that are in the base of GP32 scene, then there would be much better support.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm honestly starting to miss being able to play commercial-quality games on the go. And I think the best solution to this would be perfect/near perfect emulation of 2 consoles that seem to have some of the best commercial games out there that could stand up well based on today's standard of a portable game, I speak, of course, of the SNES and the GENESIS. Though, I know, it isn't an easy task, so I guess all we can do is hope that yoyo will make some more speed improvements (I believe we need a 50% speed boost to get full speed with sound) and hope that Reesy will finished emulating the sound in DrMD (We're talking Z80 that needs to perfectly emulated, right? I've been out of the scene for a while now, so I forget ). Though, we could always hope for fSNES

 

[angrypants]

whats wrong with military madness emulation? I play that game all the time on gpengine and it works perfectly, infact it is one of the few games that I acctually play on the pce.

 

[Azure]

Whaaaat? It works for you? Every single dump that I tried didn't work :huh:

 

[trooper]

Not to sound rude, But nothing will ever be perfect. What we do have is quite an achievement for what was a relatively unknown and commercially unsupported korean handheld. For that much we should be grateful. Given that most if not all of the developers give up their free time to produce games, emulators etc for us to use.

What the futrue holds is anyone`s guess. Alot of the unfinished stuff you mentioned may well get finished or new projects started to replace the ones that have been abandoned, But we will have to just wait and see. There are always unexpected suprises and boundaries being pushes even further by our beloved handheld and the people that create for it.

Lets just enjoy what we have now and wait and see what the future does hold.

Trooper

 

[cozmic]

The Gp32 has the biggest bang for a buck. period.

 

[Aaaaaaaa]

The Gp32 has the biggest bang for a buck. period.

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No, a prostitute does.

 

[Bingo Jesus]

I remember being disillusioned with the GP32 just after I got it, I think it was the first time I tried to run Chrono Trigger on Osnes9xgp 0.2, I nearly got rid of my GP after that, but I stuck with it. I think it took some good home brew, Lacuna Xump and GpDoom to help me understand what the GP was really about.

Then I got into Zelda on fGB, since then my interest has never waned, it has only got stronger (I finished Soleil on DrMD last weekend, and when version 2 comes out I'm going to play Phantasy Star IV.)

 

[psj3809]

I'm surprised at a lot of the negative comments.

All the emulators are free, yes there are 'niggles' with many of them but nothing too major. At the end of the day theyre free and i'm sure many people dont give donations to the authors so you cant expect them to be perfect.

The GP32 is brilliant for older machines to emulate and i'm happy as hell since i bought one last year. I love playing on fzx32 and have 200 games on my memory card for the good old Speccy.

Just today i've been playing Bombjack on the mame emulator so thats brilliant. So many other good games for great old systems.

SNES and GB emulation 100% would be a dream and i'm sure one day in the future that could happen. Ryleh's 'f day' is happening soon and that could be another great moment in GP32 history !

At the end of the day when emulators are free which okay might still have a few problems you cant complain too much

 

[gaterooze]

Just look at all the brilliant stuff released for the GP32 in only the last 6 months or so -- Dr. MD, Pituka, fZX, pHandy, all the amazing homebrew games like Lacuna, Akanoid, etc -- and now MAME!

The GP32 is better than ever, and I really have no complaints whatsoever. If new versions of emus are released, or other new stuff, it's gravy.

My problem is getting time to play with it more!

 

[PinkSpider]

The GP is still ace but ya know people get bored, to be honest I prefer just plugging a usb controller into my iBook and using it to play snes etc.

My gp still gets used for mp3s and will until I get an iPod.

 

[spaceboygp32x]

and crocodingus!!!

 

[Blah]

I remember being disillusioned with the GP32 just after I got it, I think it was the first time I tried to run Chrono Trigger on Osnes9xgp 0.2, I nearly got rid of my GP after that, but I stuck with it. I think it took some good home brew, Lacuna Xump and GpDoom to help me understand what the GP was really about.

Then I got into Zelda on fGB, since then my interest has never waned, it has only got stronger (I finished Soleil on DrMD last weekend, and when version 2 comes out I'm going to play Phantasy Star IV.)

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Drmd 1.0 plays Phantasy Star IV perfectly! I almost beat it, then I lost my save, because I messed up.

 

[ralp99]

GP32 is, simply put, one of the coolest and weirdest things I own.
I am not a super-crazy gadget guy but I have a couple of things and among them, GP32 and ipod are the two which've brought me the most enjoyment.

this scene is supercool because you just have no clue what's going to happen next. it really keeps consistently being fresh. we have the beloved regulars who kick out some cool software now and again, then every once in awhile somebody else will come out of left field with something, it's nuts! but it's also cool how it's small and not too hard to keep track of (unlike, say, a larger PC scene)

it sucks when people complain, it's obviously stupid but I think the general atmosphere around these boards is that people are excited with what we've got, and we're also very gracious of the free time donated by all the devvers. yeah, there's always gonna be some whining and whatever, that doesn't matter so long as it's not a huge bitchfest (look at the poor beleagured zodiac boards from time to time, those poor guys..)

GP32 is unique, it's impressive, it's ultimate expression is definitely a mystery and most people around here are cool with that.

 

[OmarNawaz]

It seems to me that some people are developing a negative attitude towards our favourite handheld, and seem to have doubts regarding its capabilities. I remember when I first got my GP32 and (finally, after messing about with the PC software) ran my favourite arcade game, R-Type, on GPEngine and being amazed at the quality of the emulation. I thought at the time, and still believe, that my GP32 is the ONLY technology related item I have ever bought that has exceeded my expectations, from buying my righteous 3D voodoo 1 accelerator to my current PC and all related items everything has been a let-down to some extent except my GP32.

I would like to thank everybody who has developed software for the GP32 for providing me with something to do on night-shift, I am eternally grateful, Long live the GP32 community.

I hope to start coding for GP at some point, but 2 kids, a wife and a full time job make things very difficult for me. Hopefully I can give something back to the community in the future.

Cheers, Ste

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dont worry dude when you think about it the gp32 "pretty" cheaap it is very easy to start developing for i.e you wont get sued for making a game or hacking one of their commercial games so it is the ideal platform for devrs.

SSOOooooo one day might not be today or tommorow or even this year a super uber l33t programmer is gonna pick up the gp32 and think "HHHHmmmhHHMMm"

 

[Azure]

I know that the coders are doing it for free and out of their own free time, but they are what make up the GP, making it a bit more appropriate for people like me to be a little depressed with how incomplete previous works have been. If I was given a guarantee that my money given to a coder would churn out a specific result in an emulator, then I would donate. But, given the current circumstances, I don't feel like a SNES emu running at 50-60% speed with sound should get my donations, especially considering that the author seems to be more interested in more powerful handhelds than our now out of shape GP. Many people have already donated to Yoyo in hope of him spending more time in the GP32 scene than the Zodiac or Palm scene, but it appears that those efforts were of no avail.

 

[trooper]

If there was a guarantee that developers would update there works as requested by the people that did donate, Then they would be extremely rich, We would have every system "possible" emulated perfectly on our GP32`s and the GP probably would have out sold the Gameboy by a very large margin. :rolleyes:

Sadly the GP32 only comes with one guarantee, And thats the 12 months manufacturers guarantee we get when we buy the system.

Trooper

 

[sensible GP32]

for something that gets ZERO press im surpised we managed to get what we have the amount of work that people have put it, i think this community is amazing. i look around at other scene's throughout the internet and i dont think they have much of an edge on us,

the xbox scene is massive wih something like 20k people on its boards,
i agree that some emulators lack that finished product for for a bedroom coder, to get anything out should be hailed as a mighty achievement, its been 3 or 4 years now and within that time there has always been something there for everybody, its given coders the chance to share there work on a portable, something which bar the zodiac hasn't been seen before.

you can always complain but when it come's down to it pound for pound the little white box that i have called my own, constantly surpises me and im very thankful that i never bought a flash cart.

Be happy with what you have already, there isnt many things like this, and if you carry on looking you never know you might just get what you want.

 

[pea]

If I was given a guarantee that my money given to a coder would churn out a specific result

hehe. Thats quite funny. ok, I know that a $10 donation is better than nothing, and is quite a plus if you are doing it for free anyway, there is no way that it makes up for the amount of time and effort that the coder has to put into that feature.

Its sort of like paying bungee $100 if it will put lemmings into its next Halo release haha.

Not being disrespectful - coders appreciate the donation, but expecting something specific in return is quite laughable really in a profession where a paid coder (in NZ at least) usually gets upwards of $40k US per year...($60k NZ)...

 

[psj3809]

My personal opinion is that most people dont donate, many people say they will and they dont. Might be wrong but thats my view.

I use about 10 emulators on the GP32, each one probably has tiny things wrong with them but i find a lot of people to be too damn picky.

Not every game will work with a particular emulator, the sound might be a bit tinny etc or the speed a fraction slow but at the end of the day the emulators on the GP32 are excellent and as i keep saying we get the emulators for free so we shouldnt complain.

I've been on many forums reading peoples excuses on why they cant donate money to the programmer etc and some of it is laughable the reasons they dont.

At this moment in time i can play C64, Spectrum, Atari ST, PC Engine, NES, SMS, Megadrive, Atari 800, Atari VCS and MAME games !!! All those emulators are free and all i think (with a few bugs here and there) are excellent.

I cant see how people can be disillusioned. Its like they want their cake and eat it as well. Enjoy this great little gaming device and stop all the bickering about 'the control stick makes a clicking noise' and 'its one frame out on my favourite game' etc ! Most of the emulators seem to run about 90% of all available games for it which is pretty good.

The latest Megadrive emulator seems very very good but still people are moaning about particular small details ! Azure was moaning about Millitary Madness not working but now it seems it was just a bad rom type.

People here remind me of fairweather fans. You know the types, everyone liked the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers until they started losing, then 'suddenly' everyones a Patriots fan.

The GP32 has some brilliant emulators and with 'f' day coming soon it could be even better.