Am I The Only Person Who Thinks The Gp2x

[DaveC]

No I am just going by what Mirko has said:

"In short, thats all.

The gp2x uses one CPU, with a second core. You can use the second core to speed up limited software. Only hand written assembler code will benefit from the second core. So after all i would call the gp2x a gp32 with more ram and 33Mhz faster."

That is very dissapointing that is all.

I guess it is still better than a GP32 as it supports larger storage and has more RAM, internal storage, TV-out, Linux etc.

It is just kind of a bummer that playable SNES and NeoGeo with sound are still a pipe dream until the next version of the GP2X is made.

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The GP2X is not 33Mhz faster than the GP32. that is not true, that is a lie. You have been told again, and again.

You clearly do not know what is possible/not possible and neither do I. There is no shame in not knowing. There is nothing wrong with speculating, but what you say is again uninformed.

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Who are you saying is uninformed me or Mirko? I am informed by reading Mirko's post as he is a coder. Mirko is informed because as a coder he knows about shit like CPUs and such.

 

[x68000]

this really boils my blood when i keep hearing this 33Mhz faster than gp32 crap.

You would honestly think that some people round here are wanting the gp2x to fail, with all the doom and gloom regarding say 1 in every 20 or 30 posts makes certain individuals lose all hope in the system.

Rather sad indeed.

Imagine if you take this attitude into everyday life....... 'whats for dinner dear?', 'Meatloaf honey', Oh my gooooood god, not meatloaf, anything but meatloaf, arrrrrghhhhh i'm just gonna have to starve myself till the next meal comes along.'

Hmmmmmmm

 

[Jarska333]

Yeah, meatloaf is good. :angry:

 

[DaveC]

this really boils my blood when i keep hearing this 33Mhz faster than gp32 crap.

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Then e-mail Mirko and tell him that he is a coder but is full of it and knows nothing. Tell him that you know better than he does even though you can't code a byte. He gets his info from data sheets and block diagrams, you get yours from blind hope. Who should we believe? Sometimes reality sucks what can I say?

 

[Jarska333]

Does even Mr. Mirko actually know much for sure about GP2X?

 

[DaveC]

Does even Mr. Mirko actually know much for sure about GP2X?

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Well I am sure he has looked at the specs of CPU being used. I would bet he didn't just pull that out of his arse. He does make SDKs afterall, I would think you would have to know your shit to do that

 

[Yuglooc]

this really boils my blood when i keep hearing this 33Mhz faster than gp32 crap.

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Then e-mail Mirko and tell him that he is a coder but is full of it and knows nothing. Tell him that you know better than he does even though you can't code a byte. He gets his info from data sheets and block diagrams, you get yours from blind hope. Who should we believe? Sometimes reality sucks what can I say?

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I have more trust in ED then in Mr. Mirko. Sorry.

 

[DaveC]

this really boils my blood when i keep hearing this 33Mhz faster than gp32 crap.

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Then e-mail Mirko and tell him that he is a coder but is full of it and knows nothing. Tell him that you know better than he does even though you can't code a byte. He gets his info from data sheets and block diagrams, you get yours from blind hope. Who should we believe? Sometimes reality sucks what can I say?

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I have more trust in ED then in Mr. Mirko. Sorry.

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How many SDKs or GP32 software has ED written?

We just have to hope for some ASM gods to come through for us I guess.

 

[Huxley]

It is just kind of a bummer that playable SNES and NeoGeo with sound are still a pipe dream until the next version of the GP2X is made.

And how would you know exactly? Mr. Mirko said the GP2X is nothing more than a souped-up GP32 without the second core. But with that second core, who know's whats possible? You can't go around saying that SNES and NeoGeo are a pipe dream when we haven't even tried yet.

 

[Cyclops]

Who are you saying is uninformed me or Mirko? I am informed by reading Mirko's post as he is a coder. Mirko is informed because as a coder he knows about shit like CPUs and such.

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Again because you are incapable 200-133 does not equal 33.

 

[woogal]

Don't forget though that Mirko is guessing stuff just as much as everyone else. He may be right, and he often is, but he may also be wrong. Don't dismiss the gp2x just because one person isn't sure it's all that powerful. As far as I know there is only one person currently hacking the gp2x outside of GPH, and only today he was talking about an idea he'd had that might get code running on the second processor.

 

[junker]

Imagine if you take this attitude into everyday life....... 'whats for dinner dear?', 'Meatloaf honey', Oh my gooooood god, not meatloaf, anything but meatloaf, arrrrrghhhhh i'm just gonna have to starve myself till the next meal comes along.'

Hmmmmmmm

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hahahahaaa!!
anyway, huxley is right about that comment. it is without the 2nd core a souped up gp32, and there will be use of that second core in gp2x apps. if not, there's no point.

 

[Cyclops]

How many SDKs or GP32 software has ED written?

We just have to hope for some ASM gods to come through for us I guess.

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This is not fair on anyone. You do not know anything, but just incase you missed it 200-133 does not equal 33

 

[x68000]

that is promising news indeed, considering the system is still not even released yet.

Mr Mirko undoubtedly knows his shit, but he talks very flippently about the gp2x. It just sounds as if he is trying to play it down as much as possible. Misquotes on cpu speeds and screen sizes are 2 examples.

 

[DaveC]

How many SDKs or GP32 software has ED written?

We just have to hope for some ASM gods to come through for us I guess.

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This is not fair on anyone. You do not know anything, but just incase you missed it 200-133 does not equal 33

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I don't know anything but Mirko does.

200-166 = 34 though.

 

[Draken]

Err, that's true.

I don't know anything about this, but even though most gp32's are 166mhz, they are overclocked from 133. While the gp2x's are 200.
You might say 33mhz difference, but wouldn't a real gp32 with 166 (not overclocked) result in better speeds then an overclocked gp32 with 166mhz, just as the gp2x is 200mhz, not overclocked? o_o

 

[DaveC]

Don't forget though that Mirko is guessing stuff just as much as everyone else. He may be right, and he often is, but he may also be wrong. Don't dismiss the gp2x just because one person isn't sure it's all that powerful. As far as I know there is only one person currently hacking the gp2x outside of GPH, and only today he was talking about an idea he'd had that might get code running on the second processor.

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*might* get code running on the second processor? So it is hard to do or may not be possible then? Howcome running code on the second CPU requires "hacking"? Wasn't it supposed to be programmable from the start?

This is confusing :blink:

 

[Cyclops]

Err, that's true.

I don't know anything about this, but even though most gp32's are 166mhz, they are overclocked from 133. While the gp2x's are 200.
You might say 33mhz difference, but wouldn't a real gp32 with 166 (not overclocked) result in better speeds then an overclocked gp32 with 166mhz, just as the gp2x is 200mhz, not overclocked? o_o

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Are you sure, are you sure your sure. I suspect most people's are running at 133. I also suspect there is a massive difference in saying 33Mhz faster than an overclocked gp32and saying its 33mhz faster. As it stands its just a lie. Thats without the chip being a little bit *complicated*. Why even mention overclocking?

I don't know anything but Mirko does.

200-166 = 34 though.

its not 166mHz never has been, never will be.

*might* get code running on the second processor? So it is hard to do or may not be possible then? Howcome running code on the second CPU requires "hacking"? Wasn't it supposed to be programmable from the start?

LOL

BTW 200-133 is not 33

 

[Reesy]

The problem with having two cpus is you can't just compile some code and shove it on and expect it to make use of the two cpus.

You'll have to run code on the main cpu that copies a block of code to an area of memory. The main cpu will then setup the second cpu to run the code from there, it can't be that difficult.

 

[Squidge]

It's not exactly difficult to use both processors, but the Linux used on the gp2x at the moment dedicates the second processor to mpeg4 decoding duties, and doesn't allow user code on it. So therefore we need to "hack" it to get it to run our code instead of mpeg4 code.