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It's not surprising you'd take that stance considering you have your system too and I've seen you posting about having various minor issues with it. No doubt you'd like to create an upgrade system too so you can get a newer system that benefits from the lessons OPT has learned while justifying...

Maybe after people who've been waiting 2+ years get their first system? You're cannibalizing a new system with that, an extra $200 or not. The board/chip is the bottleneck for the entire operation at this point. Why don't you try being happy with what you have, considering you'd only see a...

Guys, if you're in batch 1, seriously, don't hold your breath. Check back once a week, maybe less frequently. The pace is obviously going to mean people waiting 2+ years or longer will get theirs... MAYBE by Dec 2012.

*Your turn may or may not come if you opt not to pay OP more money to cover for their "underestimating the amount of shit which could happen"

I'm jealous. I don't plan to upgrade and goodness knows when/if I'll see mine. Detailed reports are appreciated.

And this is new purchases only? If I were to give you even more money on top of my 2 year old pre-order, does that give me the same "new vid cable, more ram, etc" newer system, or no?

Count on never getting your Pandora if you don't upgrade. I'm not upgrading, and I'm not counting on getting mine.

We're all second class citizens unless we pay more money, original orderers. Don't get any hopes up with the recent developments. We're still months out.

Don't get your hopes up too much.

I thought Batch 2 was 4000 units too?

JacktheKnife, according to Craig's own estimates, we probably won't be at the end of Batch 1 orders who DON'T upgrade until the end of the year. My rough math suggests it'll be even worse than that. Let's assume 500 units ship a month (down from ED's guess of 250 a week, but when has ANYTHING...

You should check out the Vita. I've never been more impressed by a piece of hardware. Can't wait to see how things develop in the next 2-3 years. If only the PSP had a screen like that.

So sorry, but enough of this subtle apologist tone on behalf of OP. We already paid the "full" price. Call it the "extra money needed because of bad luck and planning," but lets not try to make it seem as though whatever they're charging now is the "full" price and that we all have to somehow...

Why would OP want to ship any of our old orders at this point? That money was used up a long time ago. From their standpoint it'll be much better to ship only new units, or upgrades, as that's all new revenue. I would imagine my early 2009 pre-order, if it EVER ships, won't ship until 2013...

They have ~$380 dollars of my money, an amount they've had for over two years. In that amount of time I've quietly waited, with the occasional forum post. I've emailed them only once following the initial order process, and that was to change my address (because my company moved locations in...

Frankly, 3 months into my 2+ year wait, when all sorts of "obstacles" started to present themselves, I considered the money lost. I don't really feel the kind of respect for the investment I made from the OP team, at least not as much as I think it deserves. An overt sense of responsibility...

And if I have an order from 2+ years ago with Craig and I DON'T care to offer up more money, what is the expected number of Pandora's (the existing queue not withstanding) that we have to get through before I get my unit? I think we made it through about 2000 so far? And lets say about 250...

Certainly a way to save time and money.

Thanks. I try my best to stay up to date with developments and see if you've answered every question, but hopefully you understand that I try to avoid visiting the site every day. Easier to be surprised by developments than frustrated by all the obstacles you guys have had. My only other...

EvilDragon, can you please advise exactly how things might work for folks from the first batch who placed their orders with Craig? Are all of these developments and the new units that will be made going to be allocated to BOTH customer pools, or does Craig have to negotiate with you in some way...