Thanks for all help with this, i searched through the various posts on this site and discovered that it helps if the driver is situated in C:\windows\system32\drivers, so i did that and i think it worked. when i check my hardware list GAMEPARK GP32 USB appears when i click on the usb ports, and when i click on properties it says the device is working. so i try a digital camera in the usb port to rule out dodgy ports, and to my suprise the camera has a connection error!! i know i come across as stupid but how i described the hardware list, does it seem the drivers are installed properly???