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i personally think its ok to use roms for ancient games and for recent games. wares lets people experiance what they missed out first time round.

like banjo kazooie great game made by great people (rare) but so few people had n64 compared to psones.

i live in ireland which is second to japan for consoles to population ratio every one i know has or had a psone i knew 2 people who had n64's

so i short emulation good gets respect for good hard working people

winny bitchs bad get a life :blink:
 
emulation "gets respect for good hard working people"?? NO... it means that hard working people don't get F*CKING PAID, companies go out of BUSINESS because people don't pay for the games!!! You try and pay the bills with respect and see how far you get!!

And why are you talking about Banjoo Kazooie??? There will never be an N64 emulator for the gp32.. so why talk specifically about this??!!? <_<
 
games companies that are out of business probably won't mind if you use a ROM of their game, a lot of c64 collectors i know only got interested in the consoles through emulation and now collect the stuff. when dealing with games that came on magnetic disks and tapes which slowly corrode if not kept in good condition you might have an unplayable original. But emulating current systems = wrong
 
I emu like this: If there is a newer vesrion of a system (for the game), or the system was made in Y2K or less AND I can't find the game at Toys 'R' Us, I will download/emu if I want, if not, I won't. Also if I own the game, I automatically will if I want to emu it :)
 
the law stands on it like this, you can have the ROM file or image file as long as you OWN the game BUT you can't download the ROM or image off a website, as this creates a copy and you have then broken the copyright laws. The 24 hours then you must delete it thing I'm not too sure about, I think it only applies in certain countries
 
Who cares about law, if I feel ok about downloading it is all that matters :) (Unless the police are knocking on my door when I dl it ;) ) Also, that gave me an idea, if you aren't allowed to COPY the ROM, couldn't you emu it from the inerenet? Every time the emu needs more data, it kills the current data and gets new data off the inet :) It would be slow, but it might be legal (it dosen't make another copy of it B) )
 
the law stands on it like this, you can have the ROM file or image file as long as you OWN the game BUT you can't download the ROM or image off a website, as this creates a copy and you have then broken the copyright laws. The 24 hours then you must delete it thing I'm not too sure about, I think it only applies in certain countries
The "24hrs and then you must delete" text that shows on most of THOSE sites is an urban myth... That is, they all show the text, but it's rubbish. The law outright forbids the use of pirated software for any amount of time!

Likewise, in the eyes of the law there is no abandonware. If I remember correctly what I was told, somebody somewhere still holds the copyright to whatever it is... (Maybe the state?) - I always thought that Mr or Mrs X had to renew the copyright or it expires - But I've been told differently on that matter.

Still. Thankfully certain roms (Mostly for 16bit machines) are kinda ignored on the Net - Which is nice as I can (As can most people) experience those games of yesteryear! :)
 
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Some companies just don't care, especially if they still using the coders of yesteryear, ones that care more about having people enjoy their games and not big fat paychecks

but hey if you really want to play a rom badly i'm sure the companies that originally made them would sell the copyright for next to nothing. Can't really see a next gen version of great giana sisters coming out
 
Aren't the (all?) spectrum ROMS released and legalized to dl/trade and all that by the company?
 
I have no idea :)

but its not up to the company who made the console its up to the company whose programmers programmed the games, or to the programmer who programmed it
 
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Aren't the (all?) spectrum ROMS released and legalized to dl/trade and all that by the company?

Most are.. but ironically Rare (the "cause" of this topic), or Ultimate Play The Game as they were known in the spectrum days, do not allow any use of their spectrum releases. Search ultimate on www.worldofspectrum.org and see that they are all denied!! Likewise Codemasters have denied all of their spectrum "classics" <cough, cough>...

So if Rare don't allow 20 year old games to be legally downloaded, what's the chance of them condoning people downloading 5 year old games??? :p
 
personally I'll download ROM's until the police come to my door and i'll say "What computer officer? Thats a fridge"

but hey if i ever get the chance to buy some of these machines and the games i'll take it :) I've already aranged with a friend to buy his lynx and snes off him then I shall find an ST in working condition

It's not like the law is too bothered with minor infringements of copyright law like this though, it'd never end up in a high court and would be even more unlikely that you'd receive a prision sentence unless the company pushed
 
personally I'll download ROM's until the police come to my door and i'll say "What computer officer? Thats a fridge"

but hey if i ever get the chance to buy some of these machines and the games i'll take it :) I've already aranged with a friend to buy his lynx and snes off him then I shall find an ST in working condition

It's not like the law is too bothered with minor infringements of copyright law like this though, it'd never end up in a high court and would be even more unlikely that you'd receive a prision sentence unless the company pushed
My computer sounds like a fridge....
 
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sorry but as in recent i meant n64 and dream cast not current systems proper emulation of current systems is a long way away. some people are still working on perfect snes emu's for god sake.

i think emu's are a good idea i don't really care about the 24 hour law because software piracy isn't on the top list of irish garda (policemen). its drugs and murders.

i loved my snes i could remember just playing it on that christmas morning. i had 3 games mario kart super mario world and super street fighter 2 turbo (the best version). but now my snes is broken my games borrowed or lost and if it wasn't for emulation the months of work the amount of money spent on making those games would be lost. forever. but luckly you can find those games and more on any half decent roms site

so let there romulation for the new nation
 
Back 2 the roots (www.back2roots.org) has a lot licensed and legal free downloads of Amiga games.

Would be interesting to know if there are any other sites that does something like that...
 
Shrike, emulating current systems is perfectly fine and legal. It's also fun for people who like to explore videogame systems and their internals. Of course, using ROMs that you don't own yourself is still illegal...
 
the law stands on it like this, you can have the ROM file or image file as long as you OWN the game BUT you can't download the ROM or image off a website, as this creates a copy and you have then broken the copyright laws. The 24 hours then you must delete it thing I'm not too sure about, I think it only applies in certain countries
It depends on the country. Here in Sweden you are completely free to download _any_ game and _any_ movie. However, you are not allowed to share them, so whoever owns the website with © games for download is at fault.
 
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Back 2 the roots (www.back2roots.org) has a lot licensed and legal free downloads of Amiga games.

Would be interesting to know if there are any other sites that does something like that...
That link has made my day. Thanks!

Oh yeah...there are lots of abandonware sites out there - mainly dealing with PC games.

TheUnderdogs is pretty good, although not all the games on there are abandonware.


[EDIT] Corrected the link. Don't know where that otherone came from.
 
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Hmmm... but the Abandonware is NOT licensed and legalised... although usually nobody still cares for that stuff on that site :)
 
Who cares? Legal? Not Legal? As long as the police don't kick down the door of my house and point guns to my head for playing Mario 64 on my PC who cares? Besidses, most of the 'anti-rom' laws are insinuated by nintendo, The same people who thought renting/borrowing games from a friend was illegal, and that selling used games is piracy... Yep, they're REAAAAAAAL reliable all right :rolleyes:


Plus, NO COMPANY ON EARTH has ever truly lost money from piracy, not even dreamcast, it died due to piss poor marketing and sega's poor reputation because of the sega saturn flopping... (The playstation was HEAVILY pirated, but it made TONS of money) so don't worry about depriveing companies and their workers of their platnium plated turkeys this thanksgiving :rolleyes: they will get plenty of money.


So untill emulators and roms will physically harm my PC in some ILLEGAL hypocritical way, or the CIA knocks my door down because I'm playing playstation on my PC with a sidewinder controller... I'm gonna game on whether money bags nintendo or any other company wants me to or not </rant>
 
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